village voice cover story: "white girls with big asses, man"

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http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0432/essay.php

my interest in this subject is strictly that of the detached observer of social trends.

― amateur!!!st, Monday, 16 August 2004 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

not a cover story.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)

"village voice front-and-center web site story: 'white girls with big asses, man'"

― amateur!!!st, Monday, 16 August 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

it's more of a backstory, really.

― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

in the print edition, it was just one page - just like all the other weekly essays that appear in the Voice Choices section.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

NO BIG ASSES! THIS INSANITY MUST CEASE!

White girls should have skinny little white asses, and be pasty and lithe and adorable. That's the way God wanted them.

― Harold Media (kenan), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

The same God that never gets boners maybe.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

my anaconda don't want none unless you've got buns, hon.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.encorecelebrities.com/gallery/music/michael_jackson_large.jpg

― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

What on earth will indie boys do?

― Kerry (dymaxia), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Bill Callahan, via Sir Mix-Alot.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

If this story is anti-ass I demand that Jess write a rebuttal.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

no, it is defiantly pro-ass.

― amateur!!!st, Monday, 16 August 2004 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

What on earth will indie boys do?

Get aroused?

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

cf. Bill Callahan ref, people.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I LOEV YUO FAETTY

― Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i remember all the FHM posters with gail porters supposedly perfect but actually non existent ass a few years back. from the sounds of this essay, that type of ass will be coming back to take its place at the top of western ass hierarchy by october.

― splooge (thesplooge), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

ps. some white girls have always had big asses.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it totally unheard of for a white chick to have a big ass? I know loads of them. Like me.

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.reggaecd.com/upload_media/product_images/main/phpdxEaQS.jpg

― amateur!!!st, Monday, 16 August 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

okay, Mandee now I am on bended knee!

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

And I also!

― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's a rear view of me with my french braid all unfurled:

ihttp://www.singlesburg.com/members/88972/my_butt.jpg

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

gah

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

nevermind LA Gear.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

That was a result of googling "love butt"

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Can we go back to the days when our love was strong
Can you tell me how a perfect love goes wrong
Can somebody tell me how to get things back
They way they use to be
Oh God give me a reason
I’m down on bended knee
I’ll never walk again until you come back to me
I’m down on bended knee

― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

oh Mandee you're so coy.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

what a stupid, stupid waste of column.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

well it's the Voice, they've run worse.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, come now. You must have an opinion on this urgent issue!

― Harold Media (kenan), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder how many columns were actually wasted. I'm guessing... 2.

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

i didn't really get the pt of this article either except my interest was peaked by the accompanying photo.

― amateur!!!st, Monday, 16 August 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

"interest"

― amateur!!!st, Monday, 16 August 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

no, people, as stated upthread, this essay took up an entire page.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

this is one of the worst that i've seen recently, but then i hardly ever read it unless someone points out an article (like this one).

xpost - my opinion: butts rule. but if the author is concerned because she skinny legs and an out-of-proportion ass, then that's her problem not the reader's.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

also, wtf - it's not like white women have suddenly grown big butts overnight, like some sort of genetic experiment gone wild.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

my opinion: butts rule

Oh hells yes.

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Lauren, you should write a rival column.

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

it's not anti-ass, though. not even anti-the writer's ass, as far as i can tell. i don't see why anyone's getting mad at a mildly amusing fluff piece.

xpost - isn't that how the article concludes, lauren? - Either way, the "phenomenon" is just confirming what we white girls with big asses have known for years. There's always been a secret society of us.

― m. (mitchlnw), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Pynchon she ain't.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

it's not a goddamn secret.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

just cos a butt is big doesnt mean its loved by bigg butt lovers. theres a diff between say, sana lathaans (wrong spelling probably) quite wonderful ass cos its in proportion and a sloppy bulging ass that isnt in proportion but is still simply 'big'.

i liked this article.

― splooge (thesplooge), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

no, it's not anti-ass. it's just dumb.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost my last post works well as response to either m. OR Ned.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

a lot of it is down to the writing style, this sort of detached-yet-sassy-i'm-down-with-it vibe that's made especially irritating coming from someone called sloane crosley.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

"sloppy bulging ass" - wow. Time to go work out.

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that the author's ass, pictured? (If so, I think she is a terrific and talented writer.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

"sloane crosley"

it sounds like she should be the editor of a literary magazine ca. 1925

― amateur!!!st, Monday, 16 August 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

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Forget sarah vowell, this thread is the perfect venue for my continuing crusade to introduce the word steatopygous to the breathlessly waiting world.

― Aimless, Monday, 29 December 2008 23:10 (seventeen years ago)

the steatopygous Abyssinian breed, broad-shouldered, thin-flanked, fine-limbed, and with haunches of prodigious size

It's true, this describes me perfectly

― nabisco, Monday, 29 December 2008 23:12 (seventeen years ago)

I prefer the word neotonous – why bcz it is mellifluous and it is about the CUETS.

― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 29 December 2008 23:15 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.geol.umd.edu/~jmerck/honr219d/images/05/neoteny.gif

― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 29 December 2008 23:16 (seventeen years ago)

it's the new callipygian

― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 29 December 2008 23:18 (seventeen years ago)

just out of curiosity, now that i know what sloane crosley looks like -- did she lose a significant amount of weight since this voice article? cos otherwise she is a liar on par with james frey on the topic of ass.

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Monday, 29 December 2008 23:22 (seventeen years ago)

haha i was thinking the same thing

― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 29 December 2008 23:23 (seventeen years ago)

Yup, I've been saying that since as soon as I saw her. Almost wrote a letter to the Voice about clear double standards re: Nick Sylvester / ass

― nabisco, Monday, 29 December 2008 23:25 (seventeen years ago)

ass imposter

― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 29 December 2008 23:26 (seventeen years ago)

(that's going on my band name list)

― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 29 December 2008 23:27 (seventeen years ago)

I mean this photo is a bit dark but I consider it definite proof of her bald-assed lies:

http://www.observer.com/files/imagecache/vertical/files/Sloane-Crosley.jpg

― nabisco, Monday, 29 December 2008 23:27 (seventeen years ago)

Although there's something a bit touchy about Schef -- of "I have a big ass" thread fame -- being the one doing the accusing here

― nabisco, Monday, 29 December 2008 23:28 (seventeen years ago)

Sloane sonned in assless beef

― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 29 December 2008 23:29 (seventeen years ago)

Crosley made a claim she cannot BACK UP

― nabisco, Monday, 29 December 2008 23:29 (seventeen years ago)

She had a lot of cheek to say it.

― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 29 December 2008 23:30 (seventeen years ago)

dude it's not about the fact that she's thin, you can be thin and have an ass. she's completely flat-assed.

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Monday, 29 December 2008 23:30 (seventeen years ago)

i demand truth in assvertising

― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 29 December 2008 23:30 (seventeen years ago)

Declined: insufficient buns

― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 29 December 2008 23:31 (seventeen years ago)

i am just flabbergasted by her bald-faced lies and the voice's assistance in this matter! i thought i knew the voice better ;_;

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Monday, 29 December 2008 23:31 (seventeen years ago)

it's like learning the tooth fairy is fake

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Monday, 29 December 2008 23:33 (seventeen years ago)

disappointed this isn't a picture thread

― Дyo! (The Reverend), Monday, 29 December 2008 23:51 (seventeen years ago)

If I remember correctly, a related picture thread was started, back in the day.

― nabisco, Monday, 29 December 2008 23:52 (seventeen years ago)

white women with big asses - name them!

― nabisco, Monday, 29 December 2008 23:52 (seventeen years ago)

Suggest Buns.

― nickn, Monday, 29 December 2008 23:53 (seventeen years ago)

three years pass...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/18/opinion/sunday/kristof-where-pimps-peddle-their-goods.html?_r=1

― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 18 March 2012 16:02 (fourteen years ago)

"Alissa thought about using her real name for this article but decided not to for fear that Village Voice would retaliate."

― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 18 March 2012 16:02 (fourteen years ago)

sorry, nitpicking but "Paradoxically, Village Voice began as an alternative newspaper to speak truth to power." - not actually true.

― Mordy, Sunday, 18 March 2012 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

did a double take because the last story i wrote for the voice could be described as "songs about big asses, man"

― some dude, Sunday, 18 March 2012 16:56 (fourteen years ago)

Also "It publishes some superb journalism" potentially no longer true.

― s.clover, Sunday, 18 March 2012 18:49 (fourteen years ago)

i had no idea about what that opinion piece is talking about. i always knew the v.v. had some dodgy ads in the back, but sheesh. did xagau, hoberman, et al ever speak out against this while they were employed by voice media?

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 18 March 2012 18:53 (fourteen years ago)

VVM (via their local papers) was running stories last year about how human trafficking/teen prostitution/etc. is vastly overestimated, etc.. Which seems like it might be true, but given their hooker ads in the back seemed extremely self-serving.

― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 18 March 2012 19:01 (fourteen years ago)

it was entirely self serving

― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 18 March 2012 19:08 (fourteen years ago)

it's the opposite of self-serving!

― some dude, Sunday, 18 March 2012 19:13 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.realtvcritics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/village-voice-ashton.jpg

http://www.villagevoice.com/2011-06-29/news/real-men-get-their-facts-straight-sex-trafficking-ashton-kutcher-demi-moore/

― flag post sitta (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 18 March 2012 19:28 (fourteen years ago)

Can't believe he agreed to pose for that

― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 18 March 2012 19:29 (fourteen years ago)

Use of the term "the big lie" is rarely a good look.

― Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Sunday, 18 March 2012 19:39 (fourteen years ago)

that article is fishy. so maybe 100,000-200,000 is a very high estimate. then what? do we not worry about child trafficking? do we not object to it. the voice article just denounces kutcher et al and leaves it at that.

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 18 March 2012 20:53 (fourteen years ago)

Exactly. Even if it's not tens of thousands of underage girls being prostituted through their site, some are and whatever screening mechanisms they have are evidently not particularly effective. There's no real attempt to engage with the problem, other than rubbishing the unrealistic estimates of well-meaning people.

I know some people involved in the sex industry and they're pretty sensitive about this subject - they view the reports of trafficking and exploitation as moralistic propaganda to keep their work illegal. They're great people, and actively involved in doing things that benefit the sex worker community, but there's a definite wilful blindness there as well as a tendency to ascribe dubious motives to some excellent outreach programmes for exploited women.

― Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Sunday, 18 March 2012 20:58 (fourteen years ago)

well there is a difference between a woman who chooses to go into prostitution (even if the broader scenario involves diminished economic opportunities etc.) and a 15-year-old who is forced into prostitution under continual threat of violence.

the whole issue is rather complex i'll admit. but we agree that the voice's response is very dodgy and self-serving.

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:01 (fourteen years ago)

Absolutely. Even if they felt they needed to come out to tackle what they view as myths about the sex industry, the "real men" and "big lie" tone is completely off.

― Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:08 (fourteen years ago)

"real men" is a play off of something ashton said iirc

― flag post sitta (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:12 (fourteen years ago)

yeah "real men don't buy girls" was his anti-trafficking tagline iirc

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:03 (fourteen years ago)

shamed out of human trafficking

― lag∞n, Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:30 (fourteen years ago)

yeah that seems like an amazingly ineffectual campaign -- i'd imagine folks who would pay to have sex with young teenagers have other issues besides fragile masculinity.

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 19 March 2012 01:17 (fourteen years ago)

Any campaign fronted by Ashton Kutcher's probably going to be fairly ineffectual outside the frat-bro market and fragile masculinity might, at least, have some play there.

― Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Monday, 19 March 2012 08:45 (fourteen years ago)

five years pass...

"village voice front-and-center web site story: 'white girls with big asses, man'"
― amateur!!!st, Monday, August 16, 2004 2:19 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's more of a backstory, really.
― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, August 16, 2004 2:19 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― Neanderthal, Monday, 27 March 2017 01:42 (nine years ago)

Lol ILX when it was mostly people in their twenties. Wow @ us

― Not the real Tombot (El Tomboto), Monday, 27 March 2017 02:34 (nine years ago)

ps. some white girls have always had big asses.
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, August 16, 2004 11:36 AM (twelve years ago)

― sarahell, Monday, 27 March 2017 04:24 (nine years ago)

The Dallas alt-weekly's page count seems to have dropped by almost half since they stopped advertising escorts.

― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 27 March 2017 05:32 (nine years ago)

five months pass...

"emobutt"!!!!
Kill me now.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, August 16, 2004 5:27 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Because I misread that as "elmobutt".
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, August 16, 2004 5:27 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 05:50 (eight years ago)

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