George Monbiot on Ralph Nader - what are your thoughts ILX?

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metalmickey, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 07:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Monbiot has a Frank Capra notion of what can be achieved by individuals in political systems: "Any president who seeks to change this system requires tremendous political courage. He needs to take on the corporations which have bought the elections, and challenge the newspapers and television stations which set the limits of political debate."

But of course in a real Frank Capra movie, this interesting irony -- "The contest is so close that if even a few thousand people vote for Nader rather than Kerry in the swing states, it could win the election for Bush. This is why Republicans have been giving money to Nader." -- would result in a Nader victory.

"Progressives on both sides of the Atlantic are asking American voters to sacrifice liberty for security, and democracy for expediency."

I've been saying this a lot lately but security is a *precondition* of liberty. In a functioning system, the pressure of Nader in swing states would make the Dems move left to win 'his' votes.

ENRG, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 08:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know the answer to this.. Is Nader even on the ballot in any swing states? I get the feeling he understands what's at stake...

dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:01 (twenty-one years ago)


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