Going out "on the pull"

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I don't really have much of a question here, but this thread is all about going out somewhere with the intentions of meeting people to score with - either to get phone numbers, target practice, one night stands, the meeting of a potential SO, a quick snog etc...

There's a whole range of differences to the ways people do this and the what they want out of it. Some go for the (perhaps rather juvenile, but maybe fun) "see how many we can get off with in a night" style. Others may appear a little more monogamous by trying to find that one special person to get their ends away with that night. Others may actually feel they are out for something more significant.

And 99% of the time, "going out on the pull" doesn't work - random snogs, meetings with beautiful strangers and chance encounters with the potential "one" only seem to happen when you pulled the 3-week unwashed jeans from your floor, slammed a South Park t-shirt on and headed down the pub for a swift half. Why?

― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:20 (twenty-one years ago)

pulled the 3-week unwashed jeans from your floor, slammed a South Park t-shirt on and headed down the pub for a swift half. Why?

That's what I do when I'm going on the pull. I think that's what I've been doing ~~right~~wrong

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:24 (twenty-one years ago)

when you think to yourself you're "going on the pull" you're setting your mind in the wrong attitude. I guess. Which might be why it's hindering the success.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Going out on the pull doesn't work 99% of the time for most of the reasons outlined in the 'Is being hit on ever a good thing?' thread. Also because the phrase 'going on the pull' seems to take drunken sleaziness as a prerequisite.

I am rubbish at pulling but actually pretty good at being pulled, so things even themselves out nicely enough.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to go "on the pull" on a regular basis. This was during my "hedonistic and promiscuous" stage of getting over my last headf*ck serious relationship. I lived in Hoxton, so it really was just a case of putting on my gladrags and going down the street to a meatmarket. Most nights I felt in the mood for pulling, I generally did. It was fun, and I needed to do it, but it was pretty disasterous in a lot of other ways - none of these encounters lasted longer than about 48 hours. I can't even really remember how I did it. Drunkenness played a part. Usually I checked out the crowd, decided upon which one was cutest, and went and danced at him until he gave in. If this didn't work, on to the next cutest. In Hoxton, there were an almost endless supply.

The night that I met the "love of my life", I wasn't expecting to pull at all. I just went to see a friend's band, I was wearing dirty jeans and a Flock of Seagulls shirt.

I guess the moral of the story is, that if you go out "on the pull" then that is all you will get - pulled. Or, erm, something.

I guess I know how to be single, and how to enjoy myself while being single, but I have no idea how to get into a relationship.

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post... ha ha, I guess this really does prove that it is actually easier for girls to get random sex than for boys. (Unless they're gay.)

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeh - I think everyone sort of wonders "will i meet someone tonight?" when they go out, whether they'll admit it or not. It's when one starts thinking "I HAVE to meet someone tonight" it goes tits up. Either you get roaringly drunk in order to put some Dutch courage in you. Or you end up being disappointed by the lack of totty and then acting disappointed aand if you do meet "the one" they think you're a miserable sod.
If you go out with the intention of having a laugh, you're acting more natural, you don't care too much about the impression you're giving off and this can turn you into a more attractive and interesting person than someone with immaculate hair who's constantly eyeing up the talent.

― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:31 (twenty-one years ago)

yeh it does seem like that if girls want to get some random action they can get some a lot easier than boys. is that really true?

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it is.

― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Could "going out on the pull" be more of a therapy than an attempt to get a life, y'know - like going to a sauna or something? Even just snogging random people just for the sake of it can be kind of fun and is probably quite good for the brain and ego, despite it being seen as quite a childish pass-time since a 48-hour relationship is seen by most people as a waste of time.

The last time I had a random snog was in March, which may account for my crippling depression ;-) (jks)

― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, it was definitely more like therapy, and more like trying to repair a self esteem that was completely shredded by an abusive relationship. It was a great shock to learn that I *could* still pull, after being made to feel like a sack of shit for so long. I don't view the 1/2-night stands as being a waste of time, they were more like a learning experience.

Yeah, sure, it's childish, and I did eventually grow out of it, and realised that I was looking for something more out of love. But it was an important stage to go through.

I lacked sexual self confidence for most of my life, I was always used to being the fat, ugly kid with the weird accent. For a period of about six months, I could walk into trendy bars in Hoxton, walk up to the most beautiful man in the room, and end up going home with him. That did a *lot* to restore self esteem.

OK, it ended up turning into a different kind of mindfuck after a while, when you realise that you've screwed up any hope you had of having a *relationship* with someone you might actually have liked, had you met them in a different context. But that was a different lesson to learn.

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:44 (twenty-one years ago)

despite it being seen as quite a childish pass-time since a 48-hour relationship is seen by most people as a waste of time.

yeah exactly what a waste of 36 hours!

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:45 (twenty-one years ago)

It's dud. But then again, I am a miserable cumugeon (sp).

― ___ (___), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i seem to fail on pulling when i atually set out to pull on purpose. you usually end up looking like a cock or trying too hard or something. then again, maybe a lot of other people can do it, i just cant.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:54 (twenty-one years ago)

"...when you realise that you've screwed up any hope you had of having a *relationship* with someone you might actually have liked, had you met them in a different context."

God, isn't that the worst? I'm all for proper, getting to you know dating now.

― marianna lcl, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:55 (twenty-one years ago)

i knew who this thread was started by before clicking :)

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:55 (twenty-one years ago)

hhaa me too!

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:57 (twenty-one years ago)

although to be fair i saw this thread on the "New Questions" page which had his name next to the thread title.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:58 (twenty-one years ago)

God, I hate being single.

Well, no, I don't hate being single. I just hate the idea of having to *ever* go "On The Pull" again. Why can't I just meet nice men in the privacy of my own home or something? They could come in and sit with me for an hour or so while I watch Extreme Archeology or CSI.

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, isn't that what the internet was supposed to be for? Why do I never meet men on the internet?

Oh wait...

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:59 (twenty-one years ago)

going out on the pull = practically alien concept to me, tho i often wish i wasn't. every way i thought of doing it just seemed too lame, so i didn't really try. of course if no-one's trying to pull you then that can be some clue that you're unlikely to have much success anyway. lately i'm realising that actually it needn't have been so difficult, and that people shouldn't waste time playing games - unless that really is their kick.

but if it really doesn't work 99% of the time then why is it considered 'de rigeur' socially, in the way that it is?

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Why do I never meet men on the internet?

Why do I ONLY meet women on the internet?

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:00 (twenty-one years ago)

liar.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe I should try one of these dating type sites. Except I'd be *terrified* that no one on it was real, that it was all just ILXors taking the piss out of one another.

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:02 (twenty-one years ago)

it's true ken, technically...

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:03 (twenty-one years ago)

p.s. Is the success rate really as low as less than 1%? My flatmate and two of his mates went out one night and we got a text next morning from one of the mates who disappeared "i slept with a girl and i don't know where i am!" so that was 33%.. but then he was a cute tall danish boy with a danish accent.

(plus f.m. got a girls phone number out of it! 66%?)

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i've had a few dates with c-man off the internet (who in turn had a few dates with my se..)

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:06 (twenty-one years ago)

getting the number doesnt guarantee action. some girls just give it out like a business card. their business isnt getting you into bed most of the time, sad to say.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:08 (twenty-one years ago)

yeh it does seem like that if girls want to get some random action they can get some a lot easier than boys. is that really true?

-- ken c

Yes. If you really just do want someone to go home with for that night, rather than trying to start some kind of twisted relationship, it's pathetically easy. Obv. I haven't done this for ages.

x-post with Mr VanDyke - I wouldn't give my number to someone I wouldn't consider sleeping with. It's when you meet them for a drink you go off them.

― Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Women can pull men at will because men have very low thresholds when it comes to basic shagging. The default position of a man about on the town who is 'I am happy to have a random shag tonight'. Women are more circumspect - they might be equally up for a random shag, but have the advantage of knowing most people are available, and therefore can pick and choose.

Ie - in a pub, the proportion of men who will readily assent to a knee-trembler is higher than the proportion of women who are up for it. Supply and demand innit.

― Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:17 (twenty-one years ago)

My problem with phone number giving, is I used to give my phone number out very easily when drunk. One's standards when drunk are not the same as one's standards when sober, unfortunately.

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:19 (twenty-one years ago)

ms fielding, thats odd. i know friends who have gotten numbers off girls only to find that said females only want to be mates. maybe these girls just wanted to play games.

actually, i remember one girl whose number i got, but after finding out she lived in conventry and was only down in london for the weekend, every time i called her she was either busy or something. i cant remember this too well right now, but it seemed she was making excuses. alternately, maybe she really was too busy and i just took it wrong.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I think that's rather cruel, giving a phone number to "just be friends". Surely everybody knows that giving out a phone number is an indicator of at least mild interest (but I do take on board what Kate said about being drunk)? It's like actually expecting coffee when asked back for it. (One of my most embarassing teenage memories - explaining to my back-to-dating mother the significance of coffee. It wasn't even something I'd encountered in my own life at that point, but I was still shocked at her innocence.)

― Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:37 (twenty-one years ago)

kate's still never texted me.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

and wearing a Flock of Seagulls shirt would've won me over no probs, seriously.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:45 (twenty-one years ago)

ken c, would you like to come back to mine for coffee?

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:46 (twenty-one years ago)

i met my current girlfriend at an engagement. this is clearly the best environment for anyone looking to pull. replace those torn t-shirts with tuxes.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I cannot believe that this exists in the world:

http://www.GothicMatch.com

And yet www.dronerockmatch.com does not! It's just not *fair*!

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry. i don't drink coffee I take tea, Jarlr'mai.

you can come back to mine to listen to my Sting records though.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I am worried about my reputation now as to how Stevem worked out this was my thread.

― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Blimey. But I tht goths were all at each other like rabbits? The ones I know certainly are.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:57 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think getting digits says anything. unless i've been passing up a lot of good opportunities.

― ENRG, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes! Goths are at each other like rabbits. Hence why they have the site.

I guess dirty dronerock types are too busy, erm, playing with Japanese monster toys and oscilloscopes, and watching archeology programmes and digging through dusty old attics looking for Hawkwind records to be bothered with internet dating. Sigh.

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:00 (twenty-one years ago)

www.okcupid.com

― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I have already ascertained that okcupid.com is nothing but masquerading ILXors taking the piss.

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:02 (twenty-one years ago)

is momus a dronerock boy?

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:02 (twenty-one years ago)

www.okcupid.com is also full of goths. This is not an entirely bad thing.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:02 (twenty-one years ago)

yes - ilxors, goths and girls who want to be Scarlett Johansen.

― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:03 (twenty-one years ago)

wow what's Yes!'s username?

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:04 (twenty-one years ago)

you're not funny.

― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Skipping 620 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

Not that your story has anything to do with the diamond industry in Sierra Leone but whatever.

― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 20 August 2004 09:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Well Kate I know exactly what I have to offer the Other, which as you well know is quite a lot. But it's difficult/impossible for me to articulate it. Because then I come to the black hole of "selling myself" which I have never managed to do successfully at any stage in my life.

So yes, I know I can offer as much as, or more than, what is offered me, but I have difficulty saying so.

― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 20 August 2004 09:17 (twenty-one years ago)

am putting the evening together as people tell me what i texted them. apparently, i tried to get some guy to give me his t-shirt. it said something like 'can't commit' and i really wanted it. but he wouldn't give it to me.

― colette (a2lette), Friday, 20 August 2004 10:00 (twenty-one years ago)

You know what, I've decided that pubs and clubs really aren't me.

So instead of reliving this dwindling nightmare I'm going to take up a hobby which will get me outdoors and perhaps be of better use in meeting people - rambling, perhaps, or birdwatching.

Or maybe just take up those Japanese night classes I've been putting off for the last 18 months.

Either option has got to be better than all this "pulling" business.

― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 20 August 2004 10:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Once I hit fifty I am taking up bowls and smoking vanilla tobacco in a pipe.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Friday, 20 August 2004 10:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been thinking about learning Japanese as well. Future battles, should they occur, will be much more entertaining for it.

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 20 August 2004 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)

stevem i still have your japanese animations book!

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 20 August 2004 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd forgotten about that - when come back bring glibli

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 20 August 2004 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

wanna collect it at the swimmer later (you coming?) or shall we wait for a more convenient time?

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 20 August 2004 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to play kiss-chase when I was about 6 or 7. I was a player back then.

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 20 August 2004 13:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I've come to this a bit late, but...well, as (if I remember rightly), co-creator of the kissing game, I feel like it's been a bit misrepresented. Yes, the times I've played, I've usually won (except for one occasion where, um, I got physically attacked and went home feeling upset). But as an actual pulling technique, it's never done me any good AT ALL. The only way to get points, in my experience, has been to leap in with a little speech that goes something like:

"Hello. Um, this is going to sounds really bad, but honestly, it's not, and I promise I'm not trying to pull you or anything. It's just that me and my friend (at this point, if possible, I'll point out a non-threatening female buddy) are having this little competition, we're trying to see who can kiss the most strangers"

(pause to let them go "um...ok" and guage from that reaction whether it's worth carrying on).

"And, you know, any little kiss is enough to get me a point, just as long as it's on the mouth".

(wait for another "er...ok").

"So, if you could just really quickly give me a small kiss, you'll be doing me a HUGE favour, and then I promise I'll go away and won't bother you any more".

(pause again).

At this point, I find I'll either get an "ok then", and a small peck. Or else I'll get another "um....", at which point I'll generally say "no tongues", and convert it into an "oh, go on then". So yeah, I can get the points. But it's not like there's really any kudos in having them.

Ulitmately, I think I've decided it's kinda pointless, and not that much fun. And I've not played for aaaaaages. Even so, a little bit of me can't help but be proud of my record score...12.

― JimD (JimD), Friday, 20 August 2004 13:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i can't really see the appeal in kissing lots of different people quickly in succession myself. but then i am a menk who would rather stay in and do this stupid ILM Top 100 so...

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 20 August 2004 13:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, you're right, there isn't any really. Minor ego boost when you're hammered. Reassurance that you're not unspeakably hideous, if and when you need it. But that's all, and yeah, I'm in no big hurry to do it again.

― JimD (JimD), Friday, 20 August 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Jim, somehow you've made it sound even more rancid and sleazy than I'd imagined. Ick ick ick. Why don't you fucking pay them and be done with it??

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 20 August 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

It's easier to give them wraps of coke.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Friday, 20 August 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think paying them would have worked.

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 20 August 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Paying for affection isn't quite how I'd choose to shore up my self-esteem, Mark.

Kissing lots of people is fun but this all seems like a bit too much effort. I'm lazy when it comes to nights out.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 20 August 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

sez the man with the most active social life on ILE (so it seems)

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 20 August 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, but I want my thrills and spills to come to me when I'm actually out. Trawling round the dancefloor seems like hard work.

Also those who have seen Drunk And Emotional Matt DC out on the pull will agree it is a mercy that I feel this way, as it stops it happening more often ;)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 20 August 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Ick ick ick

Yep, that's me.

― JimD (JimD), Friday, 20 August 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

mark's just jealous of the 12 a night statistic i think ;)

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 20 August 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

12? That's nothing. My friend Brent and I did this at a college party and got about 23 each. They were mostly the same people and mostly our friends.

― sleazy and rancid rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 20 August 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

hookers don't like to be kissed, it's "unprofessional."

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 20 August 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

9 is about the best I can come up with, and I was dressed as a nun at the time so maybe that had something to do with it.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 20 August 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

oh yeah from "pretty woman"! xpost

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 20 August 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

This thread makes me think of Weezer.

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 20 August 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Who says Catholicism's no fun? (double xpost)

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 20 August 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

i want to hear more of this matt dc anecdote.

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 20 August 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh - Lauren, the show was pretty good! I met a cute boy there. Didn't pull him, though.

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Friday, 20 August 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

ken c I was speaking from personal experience.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 20 August 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

it was a lonely life on the street.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 20 August 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Ken the first part of the story is on this thread. The kissing game came later. Probably the most insane night of my life, now I think about it.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 20 August 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Jim, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to have a go at you personally. Obviously this whole concept taps some unpleasant and depressing part of my psyche.

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 20 August 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I have never done it.

― the bellefox, Friday, 20 August 2004 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

What about the foxy singer-songwriter you liked at ATP, Joe?

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 20 August 2004 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Marissa Mechant was there?!

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 20 August 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

It's true, Markelby, to pull oneself is the beginning of a lifelong romance.

― the bellefox, Friday, 20 August 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Was that amusing Francais slip intentional, Steve?

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 20 August 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

pf, she was called Shannon something... you went on about her for ages, then you went to seek her out!! Don't deny it!

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 20 August 2004 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Wuz is Shannon Wright?

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Friday, 20 August 2004 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I meant "Wuz IT" naturally.

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Friday, 20 August 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.tucsonweekly.com/binary/42616-273-1/mus-2739.gif

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Friday, 20 August 2004 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

That's a nice photograph of you, Amanda.

― the bellefox, Friday, 20 August 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

That isn't me! It's the girl you fancied at ATP!

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Friday, 20 August 2004 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

shannon wright is the worst.

― cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 20 August 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

There is so much on the thread that is hard to remember it all.

I thought it quite good when N. gave a deadpan response to Markelby. Markelby is probably right, about N.

I kind of understand JtN's point - maybe. I'm not sure. I don't get it exactly.

I have been in the rock pub DC mentions, with the Vicar & friends!

The whole pull thing does not exist, where I live. Do I mean - in my body?

Markelby is sweet to talk about Shannon Wright but I think he is confusing the fact that I said she was attractive with the false idea that I tried to pull her. I would not know how to do that - because, I suppose, it would be impossible.

― the bellefox, Friday, 20 August 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

So on Saturday I got totally plastered, went to a house party and managed (somehow) to pull with the line "OMG! You are cute!". Later on I was informed by other guests that maybe she wasn't that cute after all. Nevertheless I agreed to meet her tonight and guess what? She WAS kinda cute.

Fucking friends. What's the deal with that?!

― mr anonymous poster, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Jealousy, pure and simple.

It only just struck me that it's Freshers week this week - why I'm not out in the Zodiac every night getting jiggy with lots of nieve teenage girls, I don't know.

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 06:43 (twenty-one years ago)

God, that last post sounded so C*l*mesque, I apologise.

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 06:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha JB it sounds like me 20 years ago (actually 23 years ago this month)! Then again I was a naive teenage "boy" at the time so I suppose I have an excuse.

Ah, don't get me started on David Stubbs' club nights at St Clements (average audience: me, Laura, Simon R and about six Goths who didn't understand "all this disco shit"...).

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 06:56 (twenty-one years ago)

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