― Madchen (Madchen), Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― MarkH (MarkH), Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:17 (twenty-one years ago)
I've put my photos, passport and jewellery box in a bag, just in case. I hope this is a stupid over-reaction, but better safe than sorry, eh?
― Madchen (Madchen), Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:18 (twenty-one years ago)
I bet it was a chip pan. I hope everyone's OK.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:20 (twenty-one years ago)
The flames aren't leaping out of the window any more, but there are huge clouds of yellow smoke billowing out.
― Madchen (Madchen), Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:24 (twenty-one years ago)
(somebody has left their washing on the line at the back - that'll smell lovely when they bring it in)
― Madchen (Madchen), Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― Madchen (Madchen), Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)
A fireman has just emerged carrying a fluffy cat. I am assuming (hoping) this means there are no people in there that need saving.
― Madchen (Madchen), Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Madchen (Madchen), Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― Madchen (Madchen), Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:40 (twenty-one years ago)
Flames now leaping from roof of flat next door (one flat closer to my block). Press photographer has arrived, police interviewing people on the street.
There's no way to get a fire engine around the back - it's a closed-in block of tenements, so they have to get what equipment they can through the close to the drying green at the back.
― Madchen (Madchen), Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Madchen (Madchen), Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:51 (twenty-one years ago)
he was very concerned sounding but I put his mind at ease, that you were not in any immediate danger. perhaps I understated it, too much, and he won't even telephone, to check you're okay. sorry!
he said to call him if something happens, I think. I don't know if he meant something other than what already has or what.
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12 or 13 metres or so.
― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)
I'm pretty sure the fire won't get into my flat. The absolute worst that can happen is the flats on the 3rd floor in my block or the one next door will go and then there would be tons of water damage, but it's still four flats away from that. I think (hope) they'll put it out before that happens.
― Madchen (Madchen), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:08 (twenty-one years ago)
I also lived in the top floor of an apartment building and watched a couple buildings across from me while they were on fire (with fire fighters up on a nearby roof). Actually, I benefited nicely from that fire*, since the buildings were torn down soon after, giving me a view of Rittenhouse Square, when I was paying a fraction of the rent most people with that privilege were paying.
*Which I don't mind thinking too much, since as far as I know, nobody was injured.
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― Madchen (Madchen), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― the bellefox, Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)
The police cordon is now up to the path to my front door.
― Madchen (Madchen), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)
Note to authorities: I am not suggesting Madchen is a twisted firestarter.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)
will this be on the news?
― cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)
come back, madchen.
― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)
There is a TV crew, yes. Still wearing Access All Areas passes for the Great Scottish run. Did you see me in the Daily Record yesterday as well? (Alba, if you can scan it for me please do - don't have my own copy)
It isn't half noisy out there. I have a headache.
― Madchen (Madchen), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Madchen (Madchen), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Madchen (Madchen), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)
actually, he has copies of lots of yesterday's records.
― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― Madchen (Madchen), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)
I think you look just fine and cookie looks as insane as in reality.
the write-up is by one "tam cowan".
I think he says they have shitty tables but he might have just making it up, as he went along.
― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 August 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)
(They did have shitty tables, with great big cracks in. The candlewax poured through and ruined Dave's friend's shoes and trousers.)
― Madchen (Madchen), Sunday, 22 August 2004 13:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 August 2004 13:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 August 2004 13:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Vicky (Vicky), Sunday, 22 August 2004 13:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― Madchen (Madchen), Sunday, 22 August 2004 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)
Hope it all works out okay for you.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 22 August 2004 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Madchen (Madchen), Sunday, 22 August 2004 13:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)
Nickn, OTM.
I was just about to 'splain Ye Olde Santa Anas.
― B.L.A.M., Tuesday, 23 October 2007 23:48 (eighteen years ago)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Ana_wind
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 00:33 (eighteen years ago)
somewhere high in the desert near a curtain of a blue the sane man skirts under the wind but down here in the city of the lime lights the fans of santa ana are witherin' and you can’t deny that living is easy if you never look behind the scenery it's showtime for drag lines and bedlam is dreamin' of rain
when the hills of los angeles are burning..... palm trees are candles in the murder wind so many lives on the breeze even the stars are ill at ease and los angeles is burnin'...
― omar little, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 00:45 (eighteen years ago)
Survivor has an atmospheric song named "Santa Ana Winds" that refers to a disastrous woman.
― omar little, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 00:49 (eighteen years ago)
yeah ok, the Santa Anas. The one time in my life I visited LA (last year) it really struck me that the climate is basically desert- my friend kept her screenless windows open (no bugs!?) etc. When I read about Atlanta's water problems I can't fathom how LA and SD get their freshwater. The whole place boggles my midwestern brane.
anyway, best of luck everybody. The pictures I've seen are pretty whoa.
― brownie, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 00:51 (eighteen years ago)
i already had my fire since i live at the base of ol griffith park which went up in flames a few months ago (my place smelled like smoke for a week after that and since i lived just north of the evacuation line i had to get outta there).
― omar little, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 00:58 (eighteen years ago)
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/10/23/us/24fire.3373.jpg
― jhøshea, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 00:58 (eighteen years ago)
Famous Raymond Chandler quote, from "Red Wind"
There was a desert wind blowing that night. It was one of those hot dry Santa Anas that come down through the mountain passes and curl your hair and make your nerves jump and your skin itch. On nights like that every booze party ends in a fight. Meek little wives feel the edge of the carving knife and study their husbands' necks. Anything can happen. You can even get a full glass of beer at a cocktail lounge.
And Pasadena's feelin' it now, from the Arrowhead fire.
― nickn, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:02 (eighteen years ago)
When I read about Atlanta's water problems I can't fathom how LA and SD get their freshwater.
They steal it from up north. Not actually steal, but use way the hell more than their share. It's the desert! You don't need a lawn if you have to water it twice a day! If you want a lawn, move to Kentucky or something...
A couple of friends had to evacuate from Encinitas. They were supposed to finalize the purchase of a house today. Both homes are in the evacuation zone.
I'm so glad I moved this summer.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:21 (eighteen years ago)
A couple of friends had to evacuate from Encinitas.
i'm envisioning the owners coming back to lou's records and finding one gigantic mound of melted vinyl.
towga had to evacuate this morning as far as i can tell from bulletins i've read from sd county government sites. still can't get in touch with her, still haven't heard from her. makes me anxious and angry for a lot of different reasons.
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:50 (eighteen years ago)
here come those Santa Ana winds again BAAAAAAAD NEWWWWWWWS
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:55 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.blade-empire.com/Marto/Conan/Conan-Sword_of_the_Father-Fire.jpg
― gershy, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:58 (eighteen years ago)
sorry larry.
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 03:01 (eighteen years ago)
They steal it from up north. Not actually steal, but use way the hell more than their share. It's the desert!
It's more complex than outright theft (you could make a case for Central/Imperial Valley agricultural water subsides being more of a negative affect than the Sprawl), but a few basic changes could make a difference. I can't recommend Cadillac Desert enough.
Also, SoCal can adjust to drought conditions extremely well. Droughts have happened here before and will happen again - I don't recall Georgia ever having a drought.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 03:03 (eighteen years ago)
In recent memory that is
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 03:38 (eighteen years ago)
yay, gchatting with towga now, she's safe.
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 03:49 (eighteen years ago)
Walking around here today has been a strange shift after coming back from Hawaii. It's not unfamiliar -- there was plenty of ash, haze blocking the sun and the smell of smoke in past years such as 2003 -- but it's still jarring.
Good friend Stripey just passed on the word that yesterday her favorite area hiking spot, Whiting Ranch, burned up. She's quite upset and I don't blame her. I went out that direction with her some months back -- here's my photos -- and now who knows when it'll be like that again.
Couple of coworkers aren't in today -- they're from north San Diego County.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)
This photo from that set says it all:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/193/492435527_ef1606b5b6.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 16:13 (eighteen years ago)
they should have a purple wedge reading IMMINENT -- RUN!
― remy bean, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)
How many fatalities so far, do they know?
― Mark C, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)
1 directly as a result of the fire, 5 in fire-related circumstances (deaths by accident at evacuation facilities, for instance).
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)
Although there's also this kinda freaky incident, which almost sounds like an echo of a double-killing in the area from some months back.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)
Grandstanding well under way.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)
These fucks!! stop pointing fingers and fix it! this shit happens EVERY year.
― carne asada, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)
I didn't realize this would hit so close to home here, but a friend of mine who lives in Edmonds is hosting her grandmother, age 87, who had escaped her home (if it's still there now :( ) in Ramona in SD county. She managed to fly up here to get away from the situation. Here's the txt I got from my friend:
grandma's at the house relaxed now and happy she's alive. my mom is flying in from boise tonight to see her and make sure she's comfortable while i'm off to school. it was really hard this morning. I freaked out because grandma was missing this morning. WHERE IS SHE? I found her outside in the rain just standing there with her arms out. she's really old and shouldn't even be keeping her arms raised. obviously she shouldn't be outside in cold wet weather she's not used to. so i brought her in and she was just saying SO FULL OF LIFE. RAIN. THIS IS ALL I WANT. ITS NOT ASH ITS RAIN RAIN RAIN. I LOVE YOU. she started breaking down in tears. I ESCAPED HELL. THIS IS HEAVEN. i started crying too. i brought her inside. she's fine now.
I didn't bother asking if she knew how her grandmother's house was. It's pointless to ask that now.
― Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 20:17 (eighteen years ago)
Today summed up -- this is a view down the 405 freeway in OC. John Wayne Airport is the open patch of ground in the lower right hand corner, and I live not too far away to the further lower right.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/10/24/us/25wildfires-337.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 October 2007 01:48 (eighteen years ago)
My bro says he's not sure they can get OUT of Ventura at this point.
― Laurel, Thursday, 25 October 2007 03:42 (eighteen years ago)
Altho googlemaps seems to think the files in Ventura Co have now been contained, and it doesn't show anything for Santa Barbara...he says it's fucking HOT, though, and you can't see the sun at noon. :(
― Laurel, Thursday, 25 October 2007 03:46 (eighteen years ago)
this shit is not cool
― gabbneb, Thursday, 25 October 2007 04:29 (eighteen years ago)
All still grinding away in OC -- the fire is starting to reach the Cleveland National Forest, and if it breaks out fully there, all the smoke in the air so far will have been as nothing in comparison.
Today has been even crappier already -- at least yesterday I could see the sun rise. The smoke is so thick it's essentially fog-level visual quality now. Aside from one on-campus errand and a quick run to get some lunch to go I plan on hunkering down in the library all day at work.
This map is the best one for tracking the OC/Santiago fire -- if you click on the satellite or hybrid option, you can see just how much mountainous terrain was involved. I can see a good chunk of this from UCI on a good day and it'll be nothing but black ash when the smoke clears.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 October 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)
A disputed land-use strategy designed to protect new developments from devastation in the county's exurban, fire-prone areas appears to have passed its first and most critical test this week.
vs
It's time to rethink where homes are built in San Diego County, several scientists, environmentalists and politicians said yesterday as wildfires continued to carve up the region.
― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 25 October 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)
so we had been planning on buying a house or condo in the west-of-5 area later this year, or renting until conditions became a little more favorable. i wonder what all this is going to do to the housing / renting market and how this is going to break down across each geographical and socioeconomic "bracket"
― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 25 October 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)
well with any luck it leads to some blade runner looking shit getting erected over all those ugly McMansions what got smoked
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 25 October 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)
I'm such an optimist
We're saved!
http://www.latimes.com/media/alternatethumbnails/photo/2007-10/33471073.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 October 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)
saved? did a burning tree fall on him?
― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 25 October 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)
A sweet dream.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 October 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)
I am no fan of the governator and his weird obsession with power (or the wway he seized office) but I must admit he's probably the most reasonable, competent governor the state's had in my lifetime
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 25 October 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Fox_hypes_Qaeda_plotted_fires_theory_1025.html
It was probably Iran.
― StanM, Thursday, 25 October 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)
WHAT!!!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/25/AR2007102502488.html
― StanM, Friday, 26 October 2007 15:55 (eighteen years ago)
Seems about right.
Another day of next to no visibility around here. Plenty of people with masks on campus. Fire's still eating its way through the Cleveland National Forest and might jump the county line over the weekend. At this rate I almost wonder what Halloween would be like.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 October 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)
Guys, if you're driving around, please use the recycle air button. I actually don't know why more people don't just leave this as their main setting.
― Spencer Chow, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)
parents house was spared! not true for 5 houses right down the street though :(
― carne asada, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)
Yeesh. But glad to hear your folks' place is okay.
I was wondering if Mike Davis would be saying something and he will. Might swing by on Wednesday.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:24 (eighteen years ago)
my dad was driving around down there when i was on the phone with him and and you could tell by the sound of his voice that the devastation was beyond belief. houses stood untouched on one side of the street and on the other side nothing but ash. SD county was hit so hard by this
― carne asada, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:36 (eighteen years ago)
house around the corner from my great aunt and uncle burnt down, but theirs is fine
― gabbneb, Sunday, 28 October 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)
Any Londoners in the Holborn area? There's a HUGE cloud of billowing smoke out towards Fleet Street/Chancery Lane right now.
― McDonaldinho (Matt DC), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 16:39 (seventeen years ago)
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=fire+in+london
― Pete W, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 16:43 (seventeen years ago)
I'm going to be getting the bus in that direction shortly. A colleague who works there reports a great deal of jet black smoke around.
― zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 16:52 (seventeen years ago)
http://twitpic.com/img/27v8p-d2b51a41c5ac82106218d365176b7f58.49c1278f.jpg
Holy shit.
― McDonaldinho (Matt DC), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 16:53 (seventeen years ago)