I know there's a video game for it coming out next year, that actually sounds cool. But to remake the movie? When will the remakes trend END!?!!!?
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)
casting?
― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― Lt. Kingfish Del Pickles (Kingfish), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)
Perhaps these up-to-date Warriors will have to make it past such treacherous gangs as the Chelsea Boy Metrosexuals and the Park Slope Pram-Pushers.
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― lukey (Lukey G), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Lt. Kingfish Del Pickles (Kingfish), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)
i dunno, it's been with us from the beginning of cinema. it comes and goes. doesn't bother me a bit. if it's a bad movie, then so what, people will keep renting the old one.
― amateur!!st, Monday, 23 August 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Monday, 23 August 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― jones (actual), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)
Well I have to say that the words 'Tony Scott' don't fill me with confidence.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)
hstencil OTM re: remakes, though. I almost feel like I should see any movie that's not either a remake or an obvious rip on a tired theme.
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Lt. Kingfish Del Pickles (Kingfish), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― herbert hebert (herbert hebert), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Monday, 23 August 2004 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Monday, 23 August 2004 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― n.a. (Nick A.), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Monday, 23 August 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Monday, 23 August 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)
crazy xposts
that was to hstencil
― amateur!!st, Monday, 23 August 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)
So why not just take those concepts and materials and actually, you know, make a new movie out of them? Why is the remake necessary in this situation? It seems like he's just using the name to draw press and audiences.
― n.a. (Nick A.), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 23 August 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Monday, 23 August 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)
Then why is it called "The Manchurian Candidate"?(note: I haven't seen the new MC)
― n.a. (Nick A.), Monday, 23 August 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 23 August 2004 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Monday, 23 August 2004 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Monday, 23 August 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 23 August 2004 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)
-- n.a. (nu...), August 23rd, 2004.
i don't see how that matters. some remakes keep the same title, others change it. just a marketing decision. it's not like calling it the manchurian candidate will immediately erase everyone's memory of the original film, or remove the dvd of same from every video store shelf.
― amateur!!st, Monday, 23 August 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Monday, 23 August 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 23 August 2004 16:10 (twenty-one years ago)
xpost, I understand how marketing works. That's where my problem is. Demme seems to be saying that he's remaking TMC for artistic reasons or for social commentary or something, but really he seems to be using it as a conveniently marketable capsule for something he wants to say.
― n.a. (Nick A.), Monday, 23 August 2004 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 23 August 2004 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)
and i see no problem with packaging what you want to say in such a way that it will grab attention. the question is whether the result is interesting in itself.
― amateur!!st, Monday, 23 August 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)
(1) possible problems w/trends in contemporary hollywood in general and their implications (sequelitis, remake-itis, etc.)
(2) the merits of an individual film that partakes in that trend (as: all hollywood films with a big budget need some kind of catch to just get made. i believe demme has other projects he can't get greenlit for this reason)
― amateur!!st, Monday, 23 August 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 23 August 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)
also the abuse being aimed at tony scott here is pretty weird considering he practically IS walter hill
― jones (actual), Monday, 23 August 2004 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)
(part 1) socialist realism = problematic trend in general. remaking of historical figurs to suit contemporary (stalinist) purpose, calcified "epic" aesthetics.
(part 2) ivan the terrible. largely meets demands of socialist realism, partakes of general trend. also manages to comment on trend, be an extraordinary and powerful film in itself.
that's the most flagrant example.
not saying demme's new film is equal to ivan the terrible, but just trying to show how trends and individual films are to be conflated at yr own risk.
― amateur!!st, Monday, 23 August 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)
hallo
― amateur!!st, Monday, 23 August 2004 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 23 August 2004 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 23 August 2004 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Monday, 23 August 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Monday, 23 August 2004 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)
Arguably, Tony Scott >> Walter Hill anyway. Hill had a pretty good run before power diving into complete garbage from Crossroads onward.
As for The Warriors I predict that it'll dump the original's absurdity for something "grittier' and "gangsta hip" that'll sell to movie execs and suburbanoids who fear big cities. It'll open wide to decent numbers and then fade out. Soundtrack album will be largely forgettable, but Metallica's cover of "In The City" will crack the Top 40 for a bit.
Why can't Tony Scott remake Streets Of Fire instead? There's a Walter Hill movie that can use some help.
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)
Also, as fun as the original is, it's not strictly speaking a "great" movie. It's oddly paced, sometimes poorly acted and pretty cheesy. A remake has maybe a chance at being better - especially if it consciously plays on a retro urban fear. (I'm not holding my breath though, haha).
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)
Never saw it. I'll give it a look.
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)
WHY GOD, WHY??
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 11 February 2005 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― kevin says relax (daddy warbuxx), Friday, 11 February 2005 06:24 (twenty-one years ago)
"Waaaaaaarriors come out to plizzaaaaaaaay..."
― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Friday, 11 February 2005 07:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 11 February 2005 07:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 11 February 2005 07:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Friday, 11 February 2005 07:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Friday, 11 February 2005 07:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 11 February 2005 08:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Kingfish MuffMiner 2049er (Kingfish), Friday, 11 February 2005 08:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Friday, 11 February 2005 08:17 (twenty-one years ago)
You know what's a batshit loony idea? The Godfather video game. THE GODFATHER. Oh hey, how about Chinatown as a side-scrolling beat-em-up? That would ROCK BALLS, MAN.
― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Friday, 11 February 2005 08:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― Kingfish MuffMiner 2049er (Kingfish), Friday, 11 February 2005 08:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Kingfish MuffMiner 2049er (Kingfish), Friday, 11 February 2005 08:34 (twenty-one years ago)
Tony Scott is alleged to have said he will minimise gun use in the Warriors remake and concentrate on hand to hand combat in the fight scenes. So expect lots of Matrix style Kung Fu slo-mo.
Next remake to bring on apoplexy: A Clockwork Orange
(I made that up but you can almost guarantee some twat director will think he can pull it off)
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 11 February 2005 09:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 11 February 2005 11:00 (twenty-one years ago)
The original didn't have a lot of guns in it to begin with, so this not exactly a creative move. Actually, one of the amazing things about the Warriors is how much tension it generates with surprisingly little actual on-screen violence.
I don't mind people remaking classic movies - I just usually don't bother to go see them.
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 11 February 2005 11:14 (twenty-one years ago)
i usually don't bother to see the make OR the remake as that makes my comments funnier
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 11 February 2005 11:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― 57 7th (calstars), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― DV (dirtyvicar), Saturday, 12 February 2005 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Saturday, 12 February 2005 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 12 February 2005 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)
I just read the same thing in the latest issue of Uncut (wherein they interview the director, so I'm guessing they didn't make it up).
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 12 February 2005 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 12 February 2005 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)
Even better!
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Saturday, 12 February 2005 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)
WESTWOOD, California — "Domino," Tony Scott's upcoming Keira Knightley-starring action flick about a lethal bounty hunter, will give fans of the director the chance to cozy up with some familiar offerings: hyper-violence, rapid editing and a plethora of severed limbs and drug hallucinations. While sitting down for an interview to promote the film, the 61-year-old English auteur brandished a heartwarming smile, peering out from beneath a faded red baseball cap that could brag of more years in Hollywood than his current leading lady. Scott is a man who no doubt appreciates the virtues of familiarity. As the discussion turned to his upcoming high-profile remake of the 1979 cult classic "The Warriors," however, Scott made it clear that his ball cap might be the only recognizable thing on the set. "The opening of 'The Warriors' now begins on the Long Beach Bridge, and it's going to look like the L.A. marathon," Scott said of the script, which relocates the story of the titular gang attempting to get home to its turf after being mistakenly accused of murdering a rival gang leader. "You'll still get the same story, but we're reconstructing the family, reconstructing the characters, and I'm doing it in L.A. The original was in New York and everything went upwards; L.A. goes [length-wise]. And instead of 30 gang members, there's going to be 3,000 or 5,000." Scott revealed that he intends to do away with such warring factions as the Baseball Furies (a bat-wielding group of thugs dressed in makeup and MLB-worthy uniforms), the Punks (chain-wielders in hillbilly overalls) and the Hi Hats (bad-ass mimes wearing top hats). The decision, which will no doubt stir up controversy among die-hard fans currently snatching up newly released "Warriors" action figures at mall stores nationwide, is largely due to the director's recent meetings with actual L.A. gang members, whom he employed onscreen in "Domino" and intends to use again for "Warriors." "I sat with all the gang members and they said, 'If you can get this movie on, we'll do a treaty between all the warriors, all the different gangs,' " Scott said proudly. "It's very different from what the original is like. I love the original, but this is a very different tone and a very different feel. The encounters will be more like 'Kingdom of Heaven.' It will be the Warriors stacking up against 3,000 gang members. "The story is so generic, it's like these guys are at point B and they need to get back to point A," Scott said of the similarities between the two films, which will virtually end after the title, concept and name of at least one major character. "It's contemporary; it's going to look like the L.A. riots, with fires burning after Cyrus gets shot at the beginning. "Everything else that we're doing, what I'm bringing to it, it's a different movie," he added, saying that authentic tattoo-sporting gangbangers will replace fictional organizations like the Savage Huns and the pimpish Boppers. "It will be the Bloods, the Crips, the Vietnamese, the 18th Street [Gang], all the boys. It will be all the major gangs in Los Angeles, and we're going to try to get them to stand on the Long Beach Bridge." The comments by the "Man on Fire" director also put to rest Internet rumors that the remake would be largely martial-arts oriented, implying instead that the action will be of the bare-knuckles and drive-by-shootings variety. When "Domino" lands in theaters October 14, Scott said that "Warriors" fans should pay close attention to one particular scene if they want a taste of the tone of his remake. "You had [one of the real-life gangs] in 'Domino,' the 18th Street Gang. When [Keira Knightley's character] does the lap dance [to convince some street thugs to drop their weapons], they're all the boys, they're all the real thing, and they were fantastic." Saying that he's "still a little ways off with this one," Scott insisted that no name actors had been cast. He added, however, that he is on track to roll cameras "next year." Adding that he's got "enough outrageousness in the real people," Scott admitted that although he enjoys the flamboyant gangs in Walter Hill's original film, the Baseball Furies will be permanently stranded in the on-deck circle. So, when ill-tempered gang member Luther recites his famously taunting quote, "Warriors ... come out to play," he'll likely be confronted by a very different group. That is if Luther — or even that line of dialogue — survive the remaking process.
Scott is a man who no doubt appreciates the virtues of familiarity. As the discussion turned to his upcoming high-profile remake of the 1979 cult classic "The Warriors," however, Scott made it clear that his ball cap might be the only recognizable thing on the set.
"The opening of 'The Warriors' now begins on the Long Beach Bridge, and it's going to look like the L.A. marathon," Scott said of the script, which relocates the story of the titular gang attempting to get home to its turf after being mistakenly accused of murdering a rival gang leader. "You'll still get the same story, but we're reconstructing the family, reconstructing the characters, and I'm doing it in L.A. The original was in New York and everything went upwards; L.A. goes [length-wise]. And instead of 30 gang members, there's going to be 3,000 or 5,000."
Scott revealed that he intends to do away with such warring factions as the Baseball Furies (a bat-wielding group of thugs dressed in makeup and MLB-worthy uniforms), the Punks (chain-wielders in hillbilly overalls) and the Hi Hats (bad-ass mimes wearing top hats). The decision, which will no doubt stir up controversy among die-hard fans currently snatching up newly released "Warriors" action figures at mall stores nationwide, is largely due to the director's recent meetings with actual L.A. gang members, whom he employed onscreen in "Domino" and intends to use again for "Warriors."
"I sat with all the gang members and they said, 'If you can get this movie on, we'll do a treaty between all the warriors, all the different gangs,' " Scott said proudly. "It's very different from what the original is like. I love the original, but this is a very different tone and a very different feel. The encounters will be more like 'Kingdom of Heaven.' It will be the Warriors stacking up against 3,000 gang members.
"The story is so generic, it's like these guys are at point B and they need to get back to point A," Scott said of the similarities between the two films, which will virtually end after the title, concept and name of at least one major character. "It's contemporary; it's going to look like the L.A. riots, with fires burning after Cyrus gets shot at the beginning.
"Everything else that we're doing, what I'm bringing to it, it's a different movie," he added, saying that authentic tattoo-sporting gangbangers will replace fictional organizations like the Savage Huns and the pimpish Boppers. "It will be the Bloods, the Crips, the Vietnamese, the 18th Street [Gang], all the boys. It will be all the major gangs in Los Angeles, and we're going to try to get them to stand on the Long Beach Bridge."
The comments by the "Man on Fire" director also put to rest Internet rumors that the remake would be largely martial-arts oriented, implying instead that the action will be of the bare-knuckles and drive-by-shootings variety.
When "Domino" lands in theaters October 14, Scott said that "Warriors" fans should pay close attention to one particular scene if they want a taste of the tone of his remake. "You had [one of the real-life gangs] in 'Domino,' the 18th Street Gang. When [Keira Knightley's character] does the lap dance [to convince some street thugs to drop their weapons], they're all the boys, they're all the real thing, and they were fantastic."
Saying that he's "still a little ways off with this one," Scott insisted that no name actors had been cast. He added, however, that he is on track to roll cameras "next year."
Adding that he's got "enough outrageousness in the real people," Scott admitted that although he enjoys the flamboyant gangs in Walter Hill's original film, the Baseball Furies will be permanently stranded in the on-deck circle. So, when ill-tempered gang member Luther recites his famously taunting quote, "Warriors ... come out to play," he'll likely be confronted by a very different group.
That is if Luther — or even that line of dialogue — survive the remaking process.
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 04:09 (twenty years ago)
― I was CRYING when Magin Johnson did donuts in a magical AIDS thrfit store (dr g), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 04:30 (twenty years ago)
― ddasd, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 03:34 (twenty years ago)
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Saturday, 10 December 2005 07:28 (twenty years ago)
Finally picked up the game for like five bucks. Really entertaining!
― kingfish, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 06:05 (sixteen years ago)