he's going to win a second term, isn't he?

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tell me i'm wrong please

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/upload/1/10/Bushaircraft.jpg

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

that's the spirit.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)

wow, is that Ken Mehlman behind him?

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I have started getting this feeling that a Bush win is inevitable, I hope I'm wrong.

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I won't have none of this fatalistic bullshit.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)

(oh right, you're wrong)

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

forgive the double negative but this rise in miserable liberal Kreskin activity pisses me off.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

since the next two months are gonna be about mobilization, this is the last thing we need.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

it is Ken Mehlman! interesting

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, i know... not trying to be miserablist... just starting to get more worried as the election draws closer. i don't know if i'm just steeling myself for the possibilty or if i'm just hungover and plagued by free-floating anxiety or if it's just the republican convention or what but there's this cloud hanging low today. i should go listen to the annie soundtrack or something. not trying to bring anyone else down. anyway, i'd be grateful to anyone who can help me feel more optimistic.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I genuinely think Bush will lose the election. Mostly because it's nicer than assuming he will win, I guess. No, I do believe it!

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

My hippy uncle predicts a Kerry landslide, for whatever that's worth.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll just reaffirm that this kind of talk is EXACTLY what the right wants. They want timidity, they want hopelessness, they want worries about ostracizing the middle, feelings of powerlessness, etc. Put those fuckers on the defensive and STRUT FOR KERRY.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm probably just saying this because I've had one of the worst possible weeks in recent memory.

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.americanphoto.co.jp/pages/celeb/C/Cruise_Tom/Previews/Plans-30262.jpg

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.milkandcookies.com/media/mov/b/bushsovereignty.mov

sorry i just saw this and i imagine even if you have, you should watch it again.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

damn, let me find another link to it.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

http://homepage.mac.com/njenson/movies/sovereignty.mov

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, he is. I'm saying this because I expect the Diebold machines to be completely rigged and for there to be a surprise 'terrorist' attack on Nov. 1.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Sometimes I think so, and then I refuse to think about it. I WILL be shocked and surprised if Bush wins, I WILL expect a close race and be involved with something that I believe has a real chance.

― Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

instead of depressing Bush shit (and no offense, but fuck ANY internet dillpickle who thinks he's got the behind-the-scenes machinations ALL FIGURED OUT and knows WHAT WILL HAPPEN) we should be posting picks of Kerry lookin' badass. How about that "hangin' with Lennon" shot?

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

man I had just read the transcript, and while that seemed dumb, seeing that video clip really hammers it home. Kerry's GOTTA WIN, people. Stop being so down.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm certainly going to vote against him, I'm certainly not going to be surprised if he wins, but ultimately I predict nothing. This is all going to come down to the day itself.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks gygax! that was awesome... and cece can you chill out a bit? nobody said they had anything ALL FIGURED OUT... just looking to have a discussion about it, i'm not out on the corners handing out DON'T BOTHER pamphlets or anything, ok?

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Bob Novak today quotes a leading Republican (who I assume is Haley Barbour) saying the following:

''If this campaign is about Kerry, Bush will win the election. If this campaign is about Bush, he will win my state.''

Get it? Bush can win only if he causes people to dislike, lose faith in or believe lies about John Kerry. Don't play into their hands.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

JOHN KERRY IS A BADASS

http://www.pigs-in-lipstick.co.uk/images/JohnandJohn.jpeg

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess a lot of people will be surprised however it turns out. It's just that on one hand I have "Fuck! Bush won." and on the other "What? Really? Kerry won? Cool."

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

We had the TV on CNN for a few minutes today watching RNC coverage, and the whole time they were talking about 1) how Kerry doesn't know what he's doing and 2) how the press hates Bush. I was like dude, what a sad campaign.

xpost: hehe, he looks slightly rabbity, in a very tall way

― Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

BADASS!

http://cache.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/images/day3/01.jpg

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

he's so indie-looking in those pictures

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:55 (twenty-one years ago)

seriously, i think i saw that guy at the casa del popolo

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:55 (twenty-one years ago)

so I guess ILM is voting for Bush. *sigh*

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

man Kerry should quit with that awkward smile and stick with his old school "badass with a job to do" pose

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.americanwindsurfer.com/mag/back/issue5.5/sailing.jpg

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

do you think indie guilt: c/d is going to be a debate topic?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Man has a CHIN.

― Krankenhaus, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm gonna pretend I'm voting for an older Guy Picciotto

http://imgs.idnes.cz/zahranicni/A040215_LKR_KERRY_V.JPG

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:57 (twenty-one years ago)

was Vietnam indie?

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

he did think ahead in winng the the decisive surf & garage camps over
http://prorev.com/403electras.jpg

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

dude's theme song should be "Reprovisional"

http://www.geocities.com/seavet72/AW/img/whyvote.jpg

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Zombies for Kerry

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

wow, he's got the anglophile softy psych-pop crowd too! this will be out year!

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Bush has a tremendous advantage in that he already is President. Kerry, on the other hand, is at a tremendous disadvantage, in that he's John Kerry, who I plan to vote for because I so strongly dislike Bush but who has honestly yet to offer anything of substance that makes him not just different from Bush but better. The question is how effective an "anyone but him" campaign will be once it begins to sink in that politicians don't get much less dynamic and exciting than Kerry.

Of course, Bush is a dolt with beyond questionable tastes in associates. But unfortunately Kerry can't campaign on who he would appoint in their stead.

Anyway, things seem so close, poll wise, that the only way either will evince a significant victory is by mobilizing the 150 million or so non-voters, and if that's the case than Kerry has the most to gain from his young slacker constituency. He also has the most work to do. Maybe those October Springsteen shows will make all the difference!

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

did the whole "band of brothers" vietnam vet hoo-rah at the dems convention come back to bite him in the ass or would the whole questioning of his military record bullshit have happened anyway? i mean, yeah, i think obviously it would have happened anyway... but would it have been as damaging as it seems to be without the dems focusing on his war record so much in the campaign?

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

They totally gotta play Fugazi at Kerrey rallies!

Ahistorical - you think this shit just dropped right out of the sky
My analysis: it's time to harvest the crust from your eyes
To surge and refine, to rage and define ourselves against your line
So sorry friend but you must resign
You want to figure it out we'll throw down, we'll throw down
Wou want to figure it out well throw down your bulldog front
Bold bold mouthtalking not so bold now that you've eaten your own
Lips flecked, mouthspecked you strip the skin right off of the bone
And I would never say you act without precision or care,
But it's all attention to armor, to the armor you wear so well
Let's knock and check to see if there's somebody home

http://img.keepmedia.com/Pubs/164/content/178010.jpg

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Josh OTM. Aside from expectations of electoral fraud, I see Bush winning because Kerry isn't exactly an inspirational candidate. Clinton-era Part Deux (if we're lucky) doesn't seem to get anyone's blood pumping.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)

if he'd just stop offering that awkward grin and get a little aggro you'd all be singing a different tune

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 01:17 (twenty-one years ago)

arrrghhh the pessimism. saying he's going to win is almost putting me off my trip. its bad enough i'll actually have to experience an american election firsthand.

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

There's not that much to experience, unless you're spending a lot of time in a battleground state.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 01:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Skipping 419 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

A bigger problem is that idiots would even believe that Iraq would have been on Kerry's radar had he been President on 9/11. As if Kerry would have had a similarly hawkish, oil-industry-background, pro-imperialism cabinet and staff with roots in #41's administration just like Shrub.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

The true failure of Bush's presidency is his Cabinet and advisors.

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw a clip on the news last night of Bush speaking at a rally, and he something like, "Kerry's health care plan costs $1.7 trillion... exactly the kind of thing they'd come up with in a place like Massachusetts."

Maybe I've missed it in the past, but I was started to hear a president use rhetoric so "divisive" as to actually smear an entire state like that.

-- morris pavilion (yndlqls0...), September 14th, 2004.

This always drives me crazy. If Bush tries this shit in the debates, I really hope Kerry will come back with something like "You see, that's the difference between me and my opponent. He thinks some Americans are more American than others. But I want to be president for the whole country."

― chris herrington (chris herrington), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Ive yet to see this 2 trillion dollar plan proposed by the entire state of Massachussetts. I didnt know states were in the national policy business.

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

WINK WINK NUDGE NUDGE MASSACHUSSETTS LIBERAL.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

White people drive a car like this.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Wayne Barrett describes the Kerry ad that he thinks could beat Bush. Hint: it features Osama.

― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I really hope Kerry will come back with something like "You see, that's the difference between me and my opponent. He thinks some Americans are more American than others.

yeah, and so do his supporters.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

ohmygod that Osama ad is genius. Maybe the Kerry campaing is afraid that Rove is gonna spring bin Laden on everyone in 3 weeks.

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Kerry could do a lot worse than to run that ad too. And if he doesn't want to, maybe one of the independent groups like MoveOn could run it. If Rove springs Osama on us in October, I don't think it will matter too much whether Kerry went with this ad or not - either way it will be a big boost for Bush.

― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

neat 1000-word comparison of the Kerry & Bush health plans, one that actually FIGURES OUT what each plan does, instead of merely quoting a campaign rep.

― Lt. Kingfish Del Pickles (Kingfish), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Registration req'd - can you cut/paste?

― morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)

try this:

u: [email protected]
p: ilxor666

― Lt. Kingfish Del Pickles (Kingfish), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

"Taxachusetts" - does the Bush smear pass the laugh test?

• In the 1990s, Massachusetts cut taxes 42 times

• In 2001, only six states taxed less than Massachusetts.

• For White House staffers having trouble with this fuzzy math, that means "Taxachusetts" ranked 44th (i.e. six spots from the lowest) in terms of its citizens' tax burden

• The state tax burden in Massachusetts is below the national average

• Corporate taxes have declined by over 75 percent in Massachusetts over the past 3 decades as a portion of state revenues. Corporate income taxes were 16% of all Massachusetts taxes in the late 1960s – one out of every six dollars. They are just 4% today

• The tax burden on the wealthy in Massachusetts is actually less than
that imposed on working- and middle-income people. The richest 1% pay
6.8% of their income in taxes, while the poorest 20% pay 9.3%.

(Boston Globe, 2/2/03)
(Massachusetts Budget and Policy Center (www.massteam.org)

― nader (nader), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

PS, Not that any of this has jack sh*t to do with Kerry as he works in the federal government (i.e., has NADA thing to do with the raising and lowering of state taxes in Mass.).

I know I'm splitting hairs here, but...White House staffers, please note, there is a difference between state and federal taxes.

― nader (nader), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

o. nate's links and points on this thread are really good. At this stage, would the message be diluted because it would represent another change in strategy? I don't know if this is because Kerry's campaign has not been as focused as it could be, but has it been harder this year to get a grip on the issues upon which the election will be decided? I guess mainly because the focus keeps on going back to Iraq and terrorism, which are perceived as unprecedented.

― youn, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Only in America! (circa 1992)

― Laura E (laurae55), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

the commentary at that link is moronic. it doesn't show him drunk at all. it shows a very political, very calculating, moderately cynical, moderately funny guy. if you compare it to him in public now, he's either putting on a serious act or suffers from some real form of early dementia.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm... I disagree. I think it shows him being calculating, smarmy, moderately funny, and also a little smashed.

― Laura E (laurae55), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 02:16 (twenty-one years ago)

He looks and sounds more than a little bit like Bob Pollard doing stage banter in that clip.

Sometimes I wonder what Kerry's campaign would say about Bush if they employed the same tactics as Bush's campaign... something like, "My opponent has been arrested for drunk driving and he's handled this presidency like a drunk driver: reckless, belligerent, and a threat to innocent people."

John Kerry needs to think up a good concise catchphrase that neatly sums up the fact that Bush has made a shambles of Iraq and somehow holds out the promise of change for the better under Kerry.

How about "They got us into this mess and I'll get us out of it"?

― BrianB (BrianB), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 11:15 (twenty-one years ago)

How about "They got us into this mess and I'll get us out of it"?

That's not bad. I think it has a nice ring to it actually. It sort of implies some kind of early exit strategy without coming right out and promising one - ie., does getting us out of the mess = getting us out of Iraq? Not necessarily, but the implication could be useful in appealing to undecideds.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 12:45 (twenty-one years ago)

This is very hard for Kerry to rebut, because it's very hard to lay out a workable solution for the Iraq dilemma in a relatively concise formula that the public can understand.

The problem facing Kerry is that he doesn't have a plan that he could then turn into a soundbite. The problem behind that being that *no-one* has a solution for Iraq, although pulling out would almost certainly improve things for Iraqis. When US voters say things like 'I want a strong President who will beef up defence', are they saying it for the cameras?

― Hunted, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 12:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think there are any easy solutions in Iraq either, and I agree that right now it's the presence of the US that is the main driver behind the violence that we're seeing. However, if the US pulled out tomorrow, it seems quite possible that the country could devolve into all-out civil war, which would make the current levels of bloodshed seem mild in comparison. I think the best that the US can hope for is to set up a loose federation framework which would be stable enough to survive a US exit from the country. Building a strong central Iraq government would take years, during which the current turmoil would likely continue. But if the US is willing to accept the realities on the ground, it seems possible that they could get out much sooner and prevent untold amounts of bloodshed. This would mean granting Kurds virtual autonomy in the North, accepting Shiite religious leadership in the South, and Sunni autonomy in their regions. Then the central government would only have to be strong enough to maintain control over Baghdad. Unfortunately, this picture is greatly complicated by the oil - most of which is concentrated in the South with another oil-rich region in the North. Uncertainty about the sharing of oil revenues would be another destabilizing factor. So it's still quite possible that this federation approach could fail, but it's the best plan I've heard of to avoid prolonging the current chaos for many more years.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/06/images/20010619-1.jpg

― WORLD WIDE WEB (ex machina), Saturday, 18 September 2004 04:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Dear Jonathan,

Earlier this week, HBO premiered a new documentary entitled Nine Innings from Ground Zero. The documentary tells the story of the 2001 Yankees and the hope and optimism their run in the World Series brought back to the people of America following September 11th. Through interviews with players, fans, families, and even the President, the film recalls a difficult time that we came through together.

One segment of that documentary shows President George W. Bush throwing out the first pitch in Game Three. We would like to share a clip with you:

www.GeorgeWBush.com/NineInnings

If you would like to see the rest of this powerful film, it will air again on the following dates, times, and channels:

It is important to remember the times we have been through together. This film, in many ways, serves as a reminder of our shared experience. I recommend it highly.

www.GeorgeWBush.com/NineInnings

Sincerely,

Ken Mehlman
Campaign Manager

― Free the Bee (ex machina), Sunday, 19 September 2004 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

You should write back to Ken and ask what he's doing later

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 September 2004 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate this movie

― Free the Bee (ex machina), Sunday, 19 September 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

http://a248.e.akamai.net/6/800/1133/1096297183/oasc02.247realmedia.com/RealMedia/ads/Creatives/washtimes/AuthenticGOP_box_2004.09/WT_mixed.gif

ARGGGGH

― Professor Challenger (ex machina), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.authenticgop.com/images/back2back_shirt2.jpg

arghh

― Professor Challenger (ex machina), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.authenticgop.com/images/back2back_text.jpg

― Professor Challenger (ex machina), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.authenticgop.com/images/tolerance_shirt.jpg http://www.authenticgop.com/images/tolerance_shirt2.jpg

― Professor Challenger (ex machina), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait - you make up an act of vandalism in order to show how intolerant the opposition is? Or are you only allowed one of those T-shirts if your car has been keyed? 'oo, those leftied make me so mad! I bet they would key my car if I had a Bush sticker on it. I can't let them get away with that!"

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Ive been so tempted to key many a car with such regalia plastered all over them.

― still bevens (bscrubbins), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Terrorist.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha I should get a "No, dude, that was me" shirt made.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

How about a t-shirt of Bush with a facecock?

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Gouging expletives into another person's car with keys is a sign of trust

― Jimmy Mod, Los Sexx Yanqui (ModJ), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

come to seattle dan

Dubya-as-penis-in-suit t-shirts were selling all over Bumbershoot a month or so ago.

― gwpenishead, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

For balance.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

No. Fuck washing a balance.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

WE NEED SOMETHING TO LIVE FOR.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

all doubt is now gone from my mind. bush is history.

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Bush can stick it where the voting stickers don't shine.

― Leon in Exile (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

It's only 3pm in California. Geez.

― Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there a Californian law against sticking things up Bush's ass before dusk? Or are you just expressing general surprise that it's three in the afternoon?

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

When you live in CA everyone acts as if the election over before it's even dark outside because the East Coast and MidWest vote first due to the time difference. It pisses me off because the early polls can make West Coast people say "fuck it why bother" and not go vote.

I believe we have a local ordinance *requiring* things to be stuck up assess. (I live in a highly gay neighborhood)

― Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.islamfortoday.com/George_W_Bush.jpg

― Doobieindisguise, Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

What 'hood, Orbit?

― Michael White (Hereward), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I lived in Silverlake for a long time; now I live near 1st and Cherry in Long Beach.

― Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

"Sodomy: It's not just a good idea. It's The Law."

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)

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