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― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)
'page eight'... not terrible i guess. some nice acting. some pretty bad writing. lol'd at whole premise 'today there are no gentlemen' when we're taking about mi5. also: hipster surveillance operatives now?
― HEROIN IS LIKE JAZZ TO ME (history mayne), Sunday, 28 August 2011 21:49 (fourteen years ago)
effing instagram
effing israelis
― Once Were Moderators (DG), Sunday, 28 August 2011 21:56 (fourteen years ago)
both of the major plot things were spooks as written by a dimwitted guardian commenter: you don't get much lazier than 'they machine-gunned a man waving a white flag, effing israelis' or 'there is a new secret service and it operates out of downing street, run by effing hipsters'. but i liked that it was shot in my ends and felicity jones.
― HEROIN IS LIKE JAZZ TO ME (history mayne), Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:00 (fourteen years ago)
i flicked onto this thinking "this guff has to be stephen poliakoff" then flicked away.
― jed_, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:10 (fourteen years ago)
although the 30 secs i watched looked p domestic posh drama.
― jed_, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:11 (fourteen years ago)
got to hand it to hare tho, taking on tony blair almost a decade after iraq and 4 years after he left office, that takes some balls
― Once Were Moderators (DG), Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:14 (fourteen years ago)
haha. i saw michael gambon and bill nighy in quick succession which was another good reason to change the channel.
― jed_, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:16 (fourteen years ago)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_0_ynVlwAg9U/Sq770jwupPI/AAAAAAAAG8I/sYmAZkqX4PY/s400/3.jpg
"i'll get you next time david hare!" - tony blair, about 40 minutes ago
― Once Were Moderators (DG), Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:17 (fourteen years ago)
lol
haha. i saw michael gambon and bill nighy in quick succession which was another good reason to change the channel.― jed_, Sunday, August 28, 2011 11:16 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
― jed_, Sunday, August 28, 2011 11:16 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
ehhhh idk, i guess i like all the overhyped brit actors. dunno what else was on, of course.
― HEROIN IS LIKE JAZZ TO ME (history mayne), Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:21 (fourteen years ago)
"Young, Dumb and Living Off Mum" on bbc3
― jed_, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:24 (fourteen years ago)
well usually
nighy = shit romantic comedy (space here for ilxors wishing to point out that's what this inadverntently was)gambon = shit drama abt posh people coming together for birthday/anniversary/funeral, long-buried secrets burst forth (space here for etc etc)
should have been called 'young, dumb and shot by an effing israeli'
― Once Were Moderators (DG), Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:46 (fourteen years ago)
howard brenton, old hare collaborator, actually wrote on spooks iirc
i think at some point british dramatists and screenwriters weren't all bad, but now... struggling to think of counter-examples
(the writing here was still better than most british drama, as writing: even if it was dumb.)
but i do still like the actors, don't have a problem with nighy and gambon
― HEROIN IS LIKE JAZZ TO ME (history mayne), Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:54 (fourteen years ago)
I really wanted to like this but it was rotten, and not just because Nighy + hot, estranged daughter = memories of Poliakoff's wretched Gideon's Daughter. The politics were dated, the central torture cover-up not that different from the one in The Ghost. Weisz had nothing to do. Nighy was so deadpan that there was never any real sense of anxiety or threat - no drama at all in his showdowns with Judy Davis and her son, was bored stiff for the last half hour - and so spotless that he seemed much like a writer's fantasy - sexually irresistible Oxbridge grad with a love of jazz and art collecting. I'd say it was a blessing that Fiennes didn't do a Blair impression but his alternative was so blunt, thuggish and charmless that I couldn't buy him as a PM. If this had come out in 2006 it might have had a reason to exist beyond Hare's clout and the BBC's love of throwing money at past-their-best drama writers.
In its favour: (1) Michael Gambon. (2) Some good jokes from Nighy. (3) Felicity Jones's face.
― Now he's doing horse (DL), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:02 (fourteen years ago)
I kind of enjoyed it while I was watching it in a brainless way but really it was bollocks. So heavy-handed politically, didn't really buy into any of the relationships.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 10:22 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, this was pretty meh. I didn't buy the ending [spoiler] that he could just fly out of the country[/spoiler]. As soon as he pitched up at emigration it'd be 'can you come with us sir'. Also the teal and orange was ridiculous, I normally give a pass to that kind of stuff, but was so heavy handed that it actively distracted from the story.
― The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 11:19 (fourteen years ago)
Especially tricky if he's walking through security with a Waitrose carrier bag containing £60,000. The whole thing was too hung up on its hero's cool. I prefer my TV spooks to be messier and more compromised.
― Now he's doing horse (DL), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 11:37 (fourteen years ago)
oh, i was wondering where people were talking about this! hence posting in the 'teal & orange' thread about it. oops.
― thomp, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 11:55 (fourteen years ago)
this, i think. there were a lot of clunky switches of register - nighy and gambon to each other were marvellous, and then someone else in the room would say something Meaningful and Thematic
talk of it being picked up as a series somewhere, which might have the potential to redeem it. it could be made siller, maybe: that might help.
ralph fiennes looks oooold.
― thomp, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 12:19 (fourteen years ago)