Things I want to know from Americans after my holiday there

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1) Why is the DC Metro so poorly lit? It makes for great black and white photos, but doesn't seem particularly welcoming late at night.

2) What happened to walk/don't walk signs? Is there a move to ideograms to counter illiterate jaywalking?

3) Why don't NY Subways have nice indicator boards like here in London?

4) Is Yard's Ale from Philadelphia available anywhere in the UK? It is incredibly nummy.

5) Do people really deep fat fry Turkeys? An advert enticed people to buy a machine that did this, but wondered whether anyone bought them.

6) Is there a school to teach traffic reporters, weatherpersons and people giving statutory information at the end of adverts to speak at inhumanly fast speeds?

7) Has New Jersey always been a bit rubbish to look at? Reminded me of Mordor if built by the Doozers in Fraggle Rock.

8) Are city bars as seemingly free from menace and aggro as they appeared to be?

9) Why do Guiness adverts end with a comedy Irish accent saying 'drink responsibily. Brilliant!'. It's become a bit of a meme for us, so would like to know why.

10) Is high-fructose corn syrup responsible for the obesity crisis?

11) Why is Century21 so much better for men's clothes than for women?

Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)

5. Yes, they actually do. It's not very common, though.

Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

ooh most of these are east-coast-centric but I can give a definitive YES to question 5.

xpost, totally common in the midwest then, half my co-workers deepfried theirs.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I have never known #11 to be true. you must have gone on a lucky day.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

It's probably the west coast fat-phear that biases this part of the country against it.

Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I meant # 2

Akira Kurosawa, Tuesday, 23 November 2004 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)

#2 In big metropolitan areas with people from a hundred different ethnic backgrounds, it is fine to have a picture instead of a blinking you-are-not-welcome-here-and-learn-English-fast sign.

Akira Kurosawa, Tuesday, 23 November 2004 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

2) What happened to walk/don't walk signs? Is there a move to ideograms to counter illiterate jaywalking?

I dunno. I only jaywalk when there are no cars coming. The real problem is maniac bicyclists who ignore EVERY conceivable traffic law.

5) Do people really deep fat fry Turkeys?

This is popular in the South.

7) Has New Jersey always been a bit rubbish to look at?

Depends which part you're talking about. Most of New Jersey is beautiful and and not at all like an industrial wasteland. Gorgeous foliage, beaches, farms, forests, and lots and lots of history.

10) Is high-fructose corn syrup responsible for the obesity crisis?

That's my theory. It's in everything.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I think we're really only qualified to discuss the fried turkey issue. It's not as common as people think but every year dozen are killed and maimed by turkey deep frying accidents.

New Jersey was actually quite a lovely place prior to 1680.

Walk/Don't Walk? Well, Americans try to avoid reading whenever possible, so a picture speaks to all. Why read when you can deep fry?

andy, Tuesday, 23 November 2004 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

6) At many radio stations, traffic, weather, etc. is repeated every 10 minutes. In order to get regular news and commercials in, they have to motormouth that shit. Plus, they're giving info that covers a wide area, ie a single person isn't going to be interested in the whole report. You just keep your ears perked up to hear the road/town you're interested in, and ignore the rest.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

1) Why is the DC Metro so poorly lit? It makes for great black and white photos, but doesn't seem particularly welcoming late at night.

The city doesn't have a large tax base? (this could be very wrong; I don't know) It is a bit low-key, but I've never found it unwelcoming. I'm not sure I'd want to enter a super-fluorescent environment at night.

3) Why don't NY Subways have nice indicator boards like here in London?

I'm not sure what an indicator board is, but if they are what I think they are, they are found on all of the new trains that make up much of the system.

6) Is there a school to teach traffic reporters, weatherpersons and people giving statutory information at the end of adverts to speak at inhumanly fast speeds?

In Northeast Corridor America, traffic reporters are given a very small space of time to serve the information needs of massive metropolitan areas stuck in the path of a major truck shipping route. In preparation, all citizens are required by age 13 to be able to identify important traffic bottlenecks like the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway's Kosciusko Bridge and Nortthern Virginia's Route 123 across the Occoquan River. Failure results in reeducation. Competitive exams thereafter prepare the best and the brightest for future radio duty.

7) Has New Jersey always been a bit rubbish to look at? Reminded me of Mordor if built by the Doozers in Fraggle Rock.

It's famous for it's rubbishness, but unfairly so. I'm not sure there's anything in NJ that isn't bettered in another state, but you see none of what is good about it (and there's a fair amount) from I-95.

8) Are city bars as seemingly free from menace and aggro as they appeared to be?

It can be found, but it's certainly not a typical characteristic of most, or even the vast majority, of bars. Apparently, the UK is different?

10) Is high-fructose corn syrup responsible for the obesity crisis?

Not exclusively, but it's a significant contributor.

11) Why is Century21 so much better for men's clothes than for women?

There are many more stores serving women only?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

10) Is high-fructose corn syrup responsible for the obesity crisis?

This is my theory too! As well as Jody's theory. And we are both right. As usual.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I went to america.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Mmmmmm.... corn syrup...

andy, Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't it also, like, THE theory, right now?

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

#5 - search the internet for some great deep fat turkey fires & explosions from Thanksgivings past!

#10 - yes, high fructose corn syrup is largely responsible. As are deep-fried turkeys.

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Yard's is pretty small and local. ask them to ship you some!

http://www.yardsbrewing.com/

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:24 (twenty-one years ago)

(and yes I know it's peanut oil & not fattening or something .. fuck off fun-killer.)

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:24 (twenty-one years ago)

3) The beleaguered Transit Authority can't afford them. Someday.

8) Yes. Should I be frightened of UK bars?

11) The good womenswear is snapped up immediately upon its arrival; men's is less competitive.

Paul Eater (eater), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:24 (twenty-one years ago)

oops: it's a theory I'm taking seriously since several members of my family are diabetic.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:24 (twenty-one years ago)

"Isn't it also, like, THE theory, right now?"

well, yeah, kinda. it's also kind of a no-brainer. it didn't USED to be in everything and now it is. soda used to have cane sugar in it, which is nowhere near as strong or as bad for you as corn-syrup. when i was a kid there wasn't corn-syrup in the saltine crackers i ate! now there is.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)

The bars are quite mellow because we're all equally armed. It in the parking lot behind the bar that all hell breaks loose.

andy, Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Should I be frightened of UK bars?

Nah, not really. It's kind of like 'should I be frightened of New York?' - the danger is much less than it's percieved to be by some people. That said, like any bar, be careful if your a woman out alone, or not. There are good pubs and bad pubs I suppose.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

#3: I don't know but if you come to San Francisco you’ll find our public transportation is excellent.

Dante, Der Führer (Sean3), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I really don't want to visit London, do I?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)

the hip sugar now is organic evaporated cane juice -- unrefined, unprocessed, and a little goes a long way. it's still sugar, mind you, but there's less crap in it.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)

1) The DC Metro is falling apart, so poor lighting is the least of it. I don't know why it's dark like that, but it always has been.

supercub, Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:40 (twenty-one years ago)

5) Do people really deep fat fry Turkeys? An advert enticed people to buy a machine that did this, but wondered whether anyone bought them.

Yes, it's delish. My band plays this one outdoor festival every year that always supplies fried turkey.

8) Are city bars as seemingly free from menace and aggro as they appeared to be?

Yes. My working theory is that guns and the possibility thereof deter fistfights.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

fruit juice is a good alternative. my mom can't eat any sugar cuzza migraines and she has a tough time looking for good alternatives.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Thank God for Guns

supercub, Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Getting punched and the possibility thereof deters me from fighting.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)

and don't forget the deep-fried turducken:


http://www.cajunstuff.com/store/default.php/cPath/1

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)

The English can answer me this: Why do pubs have those upside down bottles of spirits with that little device that gives you like the smallest shot in the world? I asked several people while I was there and was told, "Because it's always been that way."

I just imagine myself starting a real BAR in London, with dark lighting, stiff, big drinks full of ice, ice cold beer, etc... I think I'd make a killing, has anyone tried this? Like an LA/NYC/SF style hipster bar that serves strong-ass cocktails? Is there crazy regululations or something?

andy, Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

9) Why do Guiness adverts end with a comedy Irish accent saying 'drink responsibily. Brilliant!'. It's become a bit of a meme for us, so would like to know why.

Don't you have those Guiness ads in the UK, with the animated cutout men going on about "drink guiness in a bottle? BRILLIANT!". They're cute and daft.. we have 'em here in Australia.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

fruit juice is a good alternative.

depends on the fruit juice. oj = loaded with sugar. grape juice = forget about it. unsweetened apple juice is probably the best bet.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:52 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, most of the healthy ones have a little apple juice in them. my mom makes yummy cookies with fruit juice to sweeten them.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:54 (twenty-one years ago)

bars are only supposed to sell spirits in multiples of 25ml, I think. the little device dispenses that much, each time. they are on the wall so the little device can fit on, I guess, and, maybe to save space. they are upside down because of gravity, perhaps.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Andy, chain bars (Chilis/Applebees/Chevy's/TGIF) also employ this device (which has a built-in counter). it's a way of "managing inventory" (aka making sure the help isn't over-pouring, etc.)

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

1) Why is the DC Metro so poorly lit? It makes for great black and white photos, but doesn't seem particularly welcoming late at night.

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2) What happened to walk/don't walk signs? Is there a move to ideograms to counter illiterate jaywalking?

for idiot foreigners!

3) Why don't NY Subways have nice indicator boards like here in London?

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4) Is Yard's Ale from Philadelphia available anywhere in the UK? It is incredibly nummy.

I congratulate you on your non-snobbishness towards our generally (by volume, certainly) inferior beer!

5) Do people really deep fat fry Turkeys? An advert enticed people to buy a machine that did this, but wondered whether anyone bought them.

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6) Is there a school to teach traffic reporters, weatherpersons and people giving statutory information at the end of adverts to speak at inhumanly fast speeds?

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7) Has New Jersey always been a bit rubbish to look at? Reminded me of Mordor if built by the Doozers in Fraggle Rock.

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8) Are city bars as seemingly free from menace and aggro as they appeared to be?


generally!

9) Why do Guiness adverts end with a comedy Irish accent saying 'drink responsibily. Brilliant!'. It's become a bit of a meme for us, so would like to know why.

Have you seen the ads where most of the ads are Irish voices talking back and forth and saying "Brilliant!"?

10) Is high-fructose corn syrup responsible for the obesity crisis?

Yes.

11) Why is Century21 so much better for men's clothes than for women?

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&client=firefox&q=century+21+realtors&btnG=Search

Does John Coltrane Dream of a Merry-go-round? (ex machina), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Little device = 'optic'. Some places serve 35ml shots - big hotels, for instance.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I know they're used in the US for inventory control (they also have some wireless units that fit on the bottle spout) but I think UK bars have them just because it's a habit. Besides, what about spinning bottles in the air while the coyote ugly girls dance on the bar? Hmm?

andy, Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:58 (twenty-one years ago)

the bars in chain restaurants dilute the fuck out of their drinks to avoid liability for drunk-driving accidents (and other stupid and potentially injurious drunken behavior). also, ironically, they want people to buy more drinks cuz that's where the money is.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i think UK bars might have them because of some kind of licensing law

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

yes.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I like New Jersey.

Abdel Clave (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 02:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, everytime I read something about clothes from Century 21, I immediately thought of ugly tan sportscoats.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 04:12 (twenty-one years ago)

re: drinking and measures in the UK

In pubs, buying spirits and mixers is generally expensive and a rip off - they use those 25ml things and then charge you a fortune for a small bottle of tonic. This is why most british ppl drink beer in pubs - you get a LOT more alchohol for your money

However, in bars, the opposite tends to be true. Cocktails can be pretty expensive, but that have a lot more alchohol in them - usually at least 50ml. Mixers tend to come from taps and therefore don;t cost so much. Beers tend to be more expensive tho - usually bottled and working out about twice the price per volume as in pubs.

If you follow this rule, you shoudl be ok. Plus you don;t need to tip the bar staff, so you can save some cash there too!

Robin Goad (rgoad), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 11:08 (twenty-one years ago)


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