sodomy, marriage, procreation, the courts, gnosticism, and you

haha none of you are going to respond to this, are you...

anger

The link doesn't work for me. It sounds appealing. I mean I agree with the restriction on marriage, in a sense. I would let gay people marry too, though, if I could, if they had children.

From today's Liberal Mass Forwarding:

> > > > >>Dear President Bush,
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Thank you for doing so much to educate people
> > > > regarding God's Law. I have
> > > > >>learned a great deal from you and understand why
> > > > you would propose and
> > > > >>support a constitutional amendment banning same
> > > > sex marriage. As you said,
> > > > >>"in the eyes of God, marriage is based between a
> > > > man a woman." I try to
> > > > >>share that knowledge with as many people as I can.
> > > > When someone tries to
> > > > >>defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I
> > > > simply remind them that
> > > > >>Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an
> > > > abomination... End of debate. I
> > > > >>do need some advice from you, however, regarding
> > > > some other elements of
> > > > >>God's Laws and how to follow them.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess
> > > > slaves, both male and female,
> > > > >>provided they are purchased from neighboring
> > > > nations. A friend of mine
> > > > >>claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not
> > > > Canadians. Can you clarify?
> > > > >>Why can't I own Canadians?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery,
> > > > as sanctioned in Exodus
> > > > >>21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would
> > > > be a fair price for
> > > > >>her? (I'm pretty sure she's a virgin).
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>3. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice,
> > > > I know it creates a
> > > > >>pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem
> > > > is my neighbors. They
> > > > >>claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I
> > > > smite them?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>4. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the
> > > > Sabbath. Exodus 35:2.
> > > > >>clearly states he should be put to death. Am I
> > > > morally obligated to kill
> > > > >>him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?
> > > > How can I help you here?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>5. A friend of mine feels that even though eating
> > > > shellfish is an
> > > > >>abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser
> > > > abomination than homosexuality. I
> > > > >>don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there
> > > > 'degrees' of abomination?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>6. Lev.21:20 states that I may not approach the
> > > > altar of God if I have a
> > > > >>defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear
> > > > reading glasses. Does my
> > > > >>vision have to be 20/20, or is there some
> > > > wiggle-room here?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>7. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed,
> > > > including the hair
> > > > >>around their temples, even though this is
> > > > expressly forbidden by Lev.
> > > > >>19:27. How should they die?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>8. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin
> > > > of a dead pig makes me
> > > > >>unclean, but may I still play football if I wear
> > > > gloves?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>9. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by
> > > > planting two different
> > > > >>crops in the same field, as does his wife by
> > > > wearing garments made of two
> > > > >>different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester
> > > > blend). He also tends to curse
> > > > >>and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that
> > > > we go to all the trouble
> > > > >>of getting the whole town together to stone them?
> > > > Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't
> > > > >>we just burn them to death at a private family
> > > > affair, like we do with
> > > > >>people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I know you have studied these things extensively
> > > > and thus enjoy
> > > > >>considerable expertise in such matters, so I am
> > > > confident you can > help.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Thank you again for reminding us that God's word
> > > > is eternal and
> > > > >>unchanging. It must be really great to be on such
> > > > close terms with God and
> > > > >>his son, ... even better than you and your own
> > > > Dad, eh?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> >
> >
>

that's great!

#7's the best.

I saw this a few years ago as an open letter to Dr. Laura.

Meticulous scholarship in the service of bigotry always gives me the creeps. It's like reading an earnestly argued eugenics paper from the 1920s.

i kind of like the idea that marriage should be a bond between people raising children. i wouldnt want to confine it to just straight people tho.

yeah, and i think the guy is seriously getting off (DYS?!?) on the conservative intellectual machismo of throwing his argumentative net reeeeeally wide, while keeping the anti-gay stance an absolute fixity. as in: "if we can't say gay marriage = bad because of evidence of a) childless straight marriage and b) privacy... then A) AND B) ARE BAD TOO MUAAHAHAHAHA BOW TO ME PHAGGOTZ & BLU STATE SEX TRAYTORZ

xpost AUGUSTUSCAESAR you don't say???

Also, between this guy invoking the Gnostics and Falwell calling NOW the National Organization of Witches, you definitely get the sense these guys are trying to repeal the entirety of Western civilization for the past few thousand years. Which I guess is one more thing they share with the Islamists.

(sorry, I misquoted Falwell -- he said "National Order of Witches")

but really i love this paragraph:

The Gnostic idea rose independently of Christianity, but I am concerned here with so-called Christian Gnosticism. The Gnostics drew together myths from Iran, Jewish magic and mysticism, Greek philosophy, and Chaldean mystical speculation. More troubling, they also appealed to the freedom from the law as proclaimed by Christ and Paul. In this sense, they were antinomians; that is, they believed that the Gospel freed Christians from obedience to any law, be it scriptural, civil, or moral. The Gnostics claimed to have a special gnosis, a unique wisdom, a "secret knowledge" denied to ordinary Christians. They appealed to unseen spirits. They denied nature. They developed a melange of moral and doctrinal ideas. But virtually all Gnostics did share two views: they rejected marriage as a child-related institution, and they scorned procreation.

sign me up dude!

I do think the ever devolving American diet is turning us into pillars of salt slowly but surely, though? Poor Lot's wife.

I wish it would DEVO-lve... nothing but spuds for breakfast, spuds for lunch, spuds for dinner!

(It doesn't really have anything to do with anything else, but if anyone's curious, the guy gets "gnosticism" almost entirely wrong.)

I'll bet the writer of this tract beats off 12 times a day.

Not that there's anything wrong with that