One stupid question about library books

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I've never done research before! But I have books from the school library -- how am I supposed to annotate whole chapters (if not whole books) meaningfully -- as photocopies? WHAT AM I DOING IN GRADUATE SCHOOL?

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Saturday, 27 November 2004 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't understand the question. Although I have no idea how you got to grad school if you've never done research before!

Sanjay McDougal (jaymc), Saturday, 27 November 2004 02:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, you went to Berkeley, right?!?

Sanjay McDougal (jaymc), Saturday, 27 November 2004 02:30 (twenty-one years ago)

My question is the first one about the books, the other is rhetorical. When I read one academically, I underline and write notes in the margins -- but since I have to return them, fat good that'll do me later! I don't know why I'm even asking, the answer is to photocopy them. But that's pricey!

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Saturday, 27 November 2004 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Couldn't you write pieces in a note pad, along with pahe numbers and note?

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Saturday, 27 November 2004 02:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Just take out the post-it notes you're putting in the books. OR WE WILL KILL YOU.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 27 November 2004 02:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I already do, actually, though I don't write out the full quotes. Maybe I should start doing that.

ACK A LIBRARIAN!

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Saturday, 27 November 2004 02:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I see ... yeah, you could go a couple of directions, I guess -- 1. photocopy only the relevant parts (although the problem, I suppose, is not knowing what's relevant right away), or 2. take notes on paper or on computer as you go along. I've done both of these when using library books for research.

Sanjay McDougal (jaymc), Saturday, 27 November 2004 02:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I find taking notes on paper as I go along - including writing out quotes - more useful than underlining: I remember stuff better when I've had to write it out as well. But it does take tiiiiiime.

cis (cis), Saturday, 27 November 2004 02:53 (twenty-one years ago)

WHO PUTS ALL TEH BOOGERS IN TEH LIBRRARY BOOKS?!

Snush (x Jeremy), Saturday, 27 November 2004 03:43 (twenty-one years ago)

teh boogerman!

s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 27 November 2004 03:51 (twenty-one years ago)

One stupid question about library books

I was really hoping this was going to be:

"They open from right to left, correct?"

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 27 November 2004 03:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Find an elderly sugar-mama to buy all the books you might need. Libraries are for proles.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 27 November 2004 07:43 (twenty-one years ago)

"it's free, right?"

autovac (autovac), Saturday, 27 November 2004 08:35 (twenty-one years ago)

i quite like books with the notes already scribbled in

not the librarian bulbs (bulbs), Saturday, 27 November 2004 08:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Marginalia

Sometimes the notes are ferocious,
skirmishes against the author
raging along the borders of every page
in tiny black script.
If I could just get my hands on you,
Kierkegaard, or Conor Cruise O'Brien,
they seem to say,
I would bolt the door and beat some logic into your head.

Other comments are more offhand, dismissive -
"Nonsense." "Please!" "HA!!" -
that kind of thing.
I remember once looking up from my reading,
my thumb as a bookmark,
trying to imagine what the person must look like
why wrote "Don't be a ninny"
alongside a paragraph in The Life of Emily Dickinson.

Students are more modest
needing to leave only their splayed footprints
along the shore of the page.
One scrawls "Metaphor" next to a stanza of Eliot's.
Another notes the presence of "Irony"
fifty times outside the paragraphs of A Modest Proposal.

Or they are fans who cheer from the empty bleachers,
Hands cupped around their mouths.
"Absolutely," they shout
to Duns Scotus and James Baldwin.
"Yes." "Bull's-eye." My man!"
Check marks, asterisks, and exclamation points
rain down along the sidelines.

And if you have manage to graduate from college
without ever having written "Man vs. Nature"
in a margin, perhaps now
is the time to take one step forward.

We have all seized the white perimeter as our own
and reached for a pen if only to show
we did not just laze in an armchair turning pages;
we pressed a thought into the wayside,
planted an impression along the verge.

Even Irish monks in their cold scriptoria
jotted along the borders of the Gospels
brief asides about the pains of copying,
a bird signing near their window,
or the sunlight that illuminated their page-
anonymous men catching a ride into the future
on a vessel more lasting than themselves.

And you have not read Joshua Reynolds,
they say, until you have read him
enwreathed with Blake's furious scribbling.

Yet the one I think of most often,
the one that dangles from me like a locket,
was written in the copy of Catcher in the Rye
I borrowed from the local library
one slow, hot summer.
I was just beginning high school then,
reading books on a davenport in my parents' living room,
and I cannot tell you
how vastly my loneliness was deepened,
how poignant and amplified the world before me seemed,
when I found on one page

A few greasy looking smears
and next to them, written in soft pencil-
by a beautiful girl, I could tell,
whom I would never meet-
"Pardon the egg salad stains, but I'm in love."

-- Billy Collins

weatheringD, Saturday, 27 November 2004 10:14 (twenty-one years ago)

get one scribe

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Saturday, 27 November 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Sometimes you'll find that it's actually only one or two books that you'll need--the rest you can just skim for background. Also: grad school lives off of essays that you can photocopy from journals. I'm not sure what field you're in, but you may find that the sources you need are actually one or two well-known essays--either in journals or excerpted in a book. Just copy these and underline away.

Mary (Mary), Saturday, 27 November 2004 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I find taking notes on paper as I go along - including writing out quotes - more useful than underlining: I remember stuff better when I've had to write it out as well. But it does take tiiiiiime.

OTM. Unfortunately I was generally too lazy to do this. Renewing books every day was the policy in practice...

The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 27 November 2004 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to skim through each book I had to read, making notes, and copying down any quotes which looked like they might come in useful.

Important tip: remember to write down all the book's bibliographic info before you take it back to the library.

grad school lives off of essays that you can photocopy from journals

My university library had a long row of filing cabinets filled with photocopies of journal articles for the benefit of first- and second-year undergraduate courses.

caitlin (caitlin), Saturday, 27 November 2004 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Buy a stack of index cards, the large size. One idea, quote or sentence per card. Write the pg # and source on each card. Then you can shuffle them as you re-order your paper for writing.

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 28 November 2004 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't feel bad. I just got back from vacation to find that I've somehow lost all the instructions and notes for my lab assignment due monday. I am a more horrible grad student than you.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Sunday, 28 November 2004 10:02 (twenty-one years ago)

i went to berkeley and never did a "research" paper per se. Well I was a ssigned a few but I was unclear on the concept. Like Leee I was an English major and it never made sense to me that one coule research something in that field at the undergraduate level.

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 28 November 2004 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)

My question is the first one about the books, the other is rhetorical. When I read one academically, I underline and write notes in the margins -- but since I have to return them, fat good that'll do me later! I don't know why I'm even asking, the answer is to photocopy them. But that's pricey!

You READ the book. As you go along, you note down stuff that is in it in a copybook of some sort. in your notebook, you flag what page your note refers to. If there is something in the book that is especially interesting, you write down what it says verbatim in inverted commas, so you can cite it back subsequently.

DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 28 November 2004 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Lee, just keep the books out until the end of the semester. That way you also keep the advantage over your fellow students.

Or just read the book and copy the relevant quotable pages.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 28 November 2004 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)


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