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According to this survey, the following cities "fit" me and my lifestyle! I always knew I was a Hartford girl.

Hartford, CT
Providence, RI
Worcester, MA
New Haven, CT
Boston, MA
Portland, OR
Danbury, CT
Little Rock, AR
Washington, DC
Baltimore, MD
Sacramento, CA
Cape Cod, MA
San Francisco, CA
San Jose, CA
Milwaukee, WI
Eugene, OR
Salem, OR
Honolulu, HI
Oakland, CA
Corvallis, OR
Albuquerque, NM
Baton Rouge, LA
Fayetteville, AR
New Orleans, LA

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought this thread was about something else and I was trying to figure out why only USers would be trying.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Very NorCal, Jody.

adam... (nordicskilla), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

*tips her waitress*

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I took this and it was *wrong*! It listed places like Milwaukee and Little Rock and didn't include Los Angeles!!!???

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG WTF LOL

Sacramento, California  
Las Vegas, Nevada  
Little Rock, Arkansas   
Baton Rouge, Louisiana  
New Orleans, Louisiana 
Los Angeles, California  
Natchitoches, Louisiana
Monroe, Louisiana   
San Diego, California   
Orange County, California   
Honolulu, Hawaii   
Portland, Oregon 
Shreveport-Bossier City, Louisiana   
Long Beach, California   
Chico, California   
Lafayette (Cajun Country), Louisiana
Las Cruces, New Mexico
Henderson, Nevada
El Cajon, California 
Riverside, California  
Alexandria, Louisiana 
Washington, District of Columbia 
Baltimore, Maryland 
Gaithersburg, Maryland 

Haibun (Begs2Differ), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Vegas all the way for you!

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Guess you'll be moving to Louisiana then.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

(xpost)

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Baltimore, Maryland
Portland, Oregon
Hartford, Con
Little Rock, Ark
Charleston, WV
Frederick, Maryland
Providence, RI
Washington, DC
New Haven, Con
Worcester, Mass
Boston, Mass
Gaithersburg, Maryland
Sacramento, CA
Milwaukee, Wis
Chicago, Ill
San Francisco, CA
Honolulu, HW
Fayetteville, Ark
San Jose, Cal
Eugene, Ore
Las Vegas, Nev
Baton Rouge, LA
Salem, Ore
New Orleans, LA

Huk-L, Monday, 29 November 2004 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

New Orleans was my #1. Baton Rouge #2. I already live in New Orleans. Stupid fate.

adam (adam), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

This reeks of marketing trap. I suspect everyone gets more or less the same list of recos. Portland was the top of my list.

Bnad, Monday, 29 November 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's my recomended list from FindYourSpot.com's quiz:

New Orleans, Louisiana
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Little Rock, Arkansas
Oakland, California
Los Angeles, California
Honolulu, Hawaii
San Diego, California
Orange County, California
Lafayette (Cajun Country), Louisiana
Alexandria, Louisiana
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Las Vegas, Nevada
Long Beach, California
San Jose, California
Monroe, Louisiana
Shreveport-Bossier City, Louisiana
New Haven, Connecticut
Boston, Massachusetts
San Francisco, California
Sacramento, California
Natchitoches, Louisiana
Baltimore, Maryland
Providence, Rhode Island
Chicago, Illinois

cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Providence, RI
New Haven, CT
Boston, MA
Milwaukee, WI
Worcester, MA
Hartford, CT
Baltimore, MD
Washington, DC
Portland, OR
San Francisco, CA
Honolulu, HI
Baton Rouge, LA
New Orleans, LA
Oakland, CA
Long Beach, CA
San Diego, CA
Orange County, CA
Las Vegas, NV
Danbury, CT
Cape Cod, MA

Apparently I should never leave New England??????? (Yay that Baltimore and DC showed up so high, though! WHERE THE FUCK IS MINNEAPOLIS?????)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Mpls prbly ddn't wnt to pay the premium to be included in the list

Huk-L, Monday, 29 November 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

cheap bastards

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

First try, privileging the Northeast:

Hartford
New Haven
Providence
Boston
Portland
Sacto
Worcester
Little Rock
Honolulu
Vegas
Baltimore
San Jose
DC
SF
Danbury
Oakland
NoLA
Baton Rouge
Long Beach
Santa Barbara
Cape Cod
Albuquerque
Fayetteville, AR
Medford

Second Try, slightly different (more accurate?) preferences, no geographic privilege:
Sacto
Little Rock
Honolulu
Vegas
Portland
Baltimore
San Jose
DC
SF
Hartford
New Haven
NoLA
Long Beach
Oakland
Providence
Baton Rouge
Boston
Worcester
San Diego
OC
Fayetteville
Chicago
Albuquerque
Frederick, MD

Two lists and not once does NY, LA or Seattle show up - please

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

so are we really all the same or are all the lists pretty much the same no matter the preferences?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

This is obviously rigged towards some graft thing, because I specifically remember checking strongly disagree for the proximity to Celine Dion question and Vegas came up anyway.

Huk-L, Monday, 29 November 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

New Haven, Connecticut
Baltimore, Maryland
Providence, Rhode Island (holla N01ze D00dz!)
Worcester, Massachusetts
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Chicago, Illinois

j.lu (j.lu), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Seriously though, WORCESTER???? (No offense, Chris V)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

j.lu is my connecticut neighbor.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

1. Boston, MA
2. Providence, RI
3. Milwaukee, WI
4. New Haven, CT
5. Worcester, MA
6. Hartford, CT
7. Chicago, IL
8. Baltimore, MD
9. Washington, DC
10. San Francisco, CA
11. San Jose, CA
12. Portland, OR

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

My list looks almost exactly like Dan's. I got Boston AND Cambridge. And Danbury, where I am actually from. Mostly California and Massachusetts.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, Worchester came up number one for me!

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

looks like milwaukee
is on lots of people's lists,
no one's #1

Haibun (Begs2Differ), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Danbury, CT; Eugene, OR; Corvallis, OR; Providence, RI; Eau Claire, WI; Oshkosh, WI; Madison, WI... and a lot more OR, WI, and small New England towns. This really is pushing for Wisconsin for me, how odd. Portland didn't show up, perhaps because I said "no large cities" -- I didn't think Portland counted!

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

(* = places disqualified for reasons FindYourSpot didn't ask me about.)

1: Miami FL
2: West Palm Beach FL
3: Charleston SC
4: Houston TX (I'm not nuts about Houston, but the Vietnamese suburbs are cool)
5: Fort Worth TX
6: Phoenix AZ
7: Tampa FL
8: Orlando FL *: ex lives there
9: Austin TX
10: Dallas TX
11: Memphis TN
12: Atlanta GA
13: Jacksonville FL
14: San Antonio TX
15: El Paso TX
16: Oklahoma City OK half*: too much snow
17: Coral Springs FL
18: Birmingham AL *: grandfather lives there
19: Delray Beach FL
20: Clearwater FL
21: Tucson AZ
22: Galveston TX
23: Brownsville TX
24: Louisville KY

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

half* for Louisville, too, again for snow.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

19: Delray Beach FL

haha my grandmother lives here.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

SF was 9th on my list, though it is honestly the only place I can see myself living in the US.

Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

1. Eugene, Oregon
2. Corvallis, Oregon
3. Fayetteville, Arkansas
4. Little Rock, Arkansas
5. Hartford, Connecticut
6. Portland, Oregon
7. Salem, Oregon
8. New Haven, Connecticut
9. Danburry, Connecticut
10.Worcester, Massachusetts
11.Shreveport-Bossier City, Louisiana
12.Medford, Oregon
13.Natchitoches, Louisiana
14.Johnson, Vermont
15.Shelburne Falls, Massachusetts
16.Alexandria, Louisiana
17.Cape Cod, Massachussetts
18.Hot Springs-Hot Springs Village, Arkansas
19.Bend, Oregon
20.Astoria, Oregon
21.Williamstown, Massachusetts
22.Heber Springs-Greers Ferry Lake, Arkansas

Apparently FindYourSpot.com can't decide if they think I'm a hippy liberal, a backwoods redneck, a chowderhead, or a GOONIE (see: #20). I am entertained.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Chris come live out here!
but make sure you call first 'cause
I might have just moved

Haibun (Begs2Differ), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Non Americans can do this too. I got Little Rock, Arkansas as my number 1.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

The thing about all this is, it's really quite shit. I was just reading the description of Chicago:

"Enjoy breezes [or high winds] from sapphire-blue [or green, or muddy brown] Lake Michigan as you ride your bike along scenic Lake Shore Drive [I've found that a bike path is safer] or fish from a pier [but for the love of God, don't eat it].... Or spend a day shopping along ritzy North Michigan Avenue, known as the 'Million Dollar Mile' [ha bloody ha]."

Whoever wrote this has never put one toe in Chicago, much less lived here. I'd imagine the same is true for all these cities.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I included the nicknames/descriptions they gave because they're fucking ridiculous. This thing takes the median property value question and assigns way more weight to that than makes sense, though then again maybe that's the way most people think about these things. I like how my request for good public transportation got shitcanned along the way.

Norfolk, Virginia Heart of the Hampton Roads
Long Island, New York The Great Island
Louisville, Kentucky Home of the Kentucky Derby
Charlotte, North Carolina The Queen City
Richmond, Virginia Rising Star of the South
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Big City on the Plains
Nashville, Tennessee Music City, U.S.A.
Seattle, Washington The Emerald City
St. Louis, Missouri Wonder of the Modern World
El Paso, Texas Where the Sun Always Shines
Lexington, Kentucky Heart of the Bluegrass
Tucson, Arizona Sonoran Desert Oasis
Cincinnati, Ohio The Queen City
Wilmington, Delaware The Flowering City
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania City of Brotherly Love
Knoxville, Tennessee Gateway to the Smoky Mountains
Denver, Colorado The Mile High City
Chesapeake-Virginia Beach, Virginia The Southern Tidewater Region
Minneapolis-St Paul, Minnesota Wealth of the Twin Cities
New York City, New York The City That Never Sleeps
Phoenix, Arizona Valley of the Sun
Indianapolis, Indiana The Crossroads of America
Toledo, Ohio Glass City of the Great Lakes
Bergen-Passaic, New Jersey Better than the Big Apple

The idea that I would rather live in Toledo or Cincinnati than San Francisco or even my current locale is pretty sickening. God.

TOMBOT, Monday, 29 November 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

YOU GOT THE TWIN CITIES???????????????????

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Bergen-Passaic, New Jersey Better than the Big Apple

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha awesome

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

This quiz is a big con to get people to move to the fucking burbs.

TOMBOT, Monday, 29 November 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Whoever wrote this has never put one toe in Chicago, much less lived here. I'd imagine the same is true for all these cities.

That's the color commentary, though, it doesn't necessarily reflect the logic of the quiz (and is undoubtedly not the work of the quiz's author). The quiz is just determining things based on a checklist of "does it or does it not have X," the color commentary sounds like cut and pasted brochure text about intangibles.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually wait, that's not this quiz, that's american tax policy

TOMBOT, Monday, 29 November 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

22.Heber Springs-Greers Ferry Lake, Arkansas

Wow. This has to be the first instance of my birthplace and hometown showing up on ilxor. The population of the whole county can't be anymore than 15,000.

It's a great place to grow up in, but I'll tell ya that it's been dry since the forties.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

whoa whoa whoa CHARLOTTE NC vs. CINCINNATI OHQUEEN CITY DEATHMATCH

TOMBOT, Monday, 29 November 2004 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Who wants to watch armies of samurai hit each other with purses?

(Wow. That might be the dumbest question I've ever asked.)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Stuff it doesn't ask about because it can't really do anything with your answer:

1) Do you like the local food;
2) Do you like the character of the people;
3) Other local culture and pick-and-choose national culture questions.

Stuff it could ask about but doesn't:

1) More specific sports questions (I'm sure Bloomington got some points when I said I'm "a fan of pro and college sports," since I couldn't specify one or the other, much less what kind of sport, but the only sports available here are the ones I'm not interested in).

2) Questions about non-Spanish ethnic community -- which aren't going to be universally important, granted, but are probably about the equal of mountain biking and local NOW chapters.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

The quiz is just determining things based on a checklist of "does it or does it not have X,"

Yeah, but weighted against nothing. That's probably why if you check "Democrat," it automatically wants to put you in New England.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

haha Kenan what?

TOMBOT, Monday, 29 November 2004 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not saying I think the quiz is brilliantly correct -- it didn't have Louisiana anywhere on my answers, probably because I wasn't enthusiastic about heat -- just that the little postcard descriptions of the cities don't really reflect anything except some intern's ability to channel Frommer's.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I said "snowy winters and big cities" and it decided that I would pick Milwaukee over Minneapolis; even though I purposely lowballed the rent/mortgage to price me out of Boston IT STILL PUT ME HERE.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

The rent thing was just for tiebreakers, wasn't it? I put the rent at what I've tended to pay, and the house costs all looked low so I just poked at something in the middle.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Hopkinsville, Kentucky -- Friendliest Place in Kentucky


ha ha ha ha ha

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, for me the difference between winters just doesn't matter. It's shit sandwich time when the snow comes -- a little's no better than a lot. Obviously I know there is a difference, but it's not an important one to me.

Dee, millions of people have no difficulty getting into the holiday spirit in warm weather, including most of your neighbors.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

mine is kind of odd:

Chattanooga, Tennessee
Knoxville, Tennessee 
Tacoma, Washington 
Hickory, North Carolina
Carlisle, Pennsylvania 
Kent, Washington
Johnson City-Kingsport, Tennessee
Asheville, North Carolina
Bellingham, Washington
Spokane, Washington
Roanoke, Virginia   
Tulsa, Oklahoma   
Olympia, Washington 
Seattle, Washington   
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania  
Albany, New York   
Clarksville, Tennessee   
Greenville, South Carolina   
Lynchburg, Virginia   
Norfolk, Virginia   
Louisville, Kentucky   
Anchorage, Alaska  
Nashville, Tennessee  
Altoona, Pennsylvania 

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

wow. albany ANY altoona!

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

AND

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

the midwest starts around baltimore and ends around las vegas

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

why the wow for altoona?

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

because it's altoontastic!

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.nicholaspalmer.net/images/Altoona.jpg

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Seattle, Washington
Carlisle, Pennsylvania
Cincinnati, Ohio
Knoxville, Tennessee
Denver, Colorado
Salt Lake City, Utah
Fort Collins, Colorado
Anchorage, Alaska
Tacoma, Washington
Provo-Orem, Utah
Ogden, Utah
Kent, Washington
Spokane, Washington
Long Island, New York
Bellingham, Washington
Albany, New York
Minneapolis-St Paul, Minnesota
Charleston, South Carolina
Olympia, Washington
Cleveland, Ohio
Norfolk, Virginia
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania
Asheville, North Carolina
Jacksonville, Florida

don weiner, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

the midwest starts around baltimore and ends around las vegas

nevermind Appalachia or the Rockies

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Don's list would make a pretty good puzzle

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

WORCESTER....ITS WHERE ITS AT. BITCHES.

Big Baby Bingo (Chris V), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, it's a bit weird. I think I may have overstated my love for the outdoors (and FWIW, I didn't ask for lower taxes on the question that did.)

I have no idea how Jacksonville snuck in there, a town I don't like at all. Same for Anchorage and Cleveland. But Asheville and Charleston are two of my favorite cities in the country, so I guess they got that right.

don weiner, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

New Haven, Connecticut Home of Yale University
The first hamburger was cooked at Louis' Lunch in this Connecticut spot in 1900...

Population: 542,000 | Average Home Price: $175,000 | Precipitation: 43" | Snow: 30"



Worcester, Massachusetts The Heart of the Commonwealth
This city at the heart of New England is home to the EcoTarium, a science center for all ages…

Population: 502,500 | Average Home Price: $215,000 | Precipitation: 48" | Snow: 45"



Providence, Rhode Island New England’s Best Kept Kept Secret
This Rhode Island spot is the home of the award-winning flaming sculpture WaterFire, installed on the three rivers of downtown...

Population: 955,500 | Average Home Price: $190,000 | Precipitation: 48" | Snow: 32"



Danbury, Connecticut Small-Town Charm Near the Big Apple
Zadoc Benedict began making beaver hats here in 1780, starting this Connecticut town's important hat industry...

Population: 75,000 | Average Home Price: $280,000 | Precipitation: 39" | Snow: 50"



Boston, Massachusetts America’s Walking City
Here in "America's Walking City," you can stroll down to famous Franklin Park for the annual Kite Festival...

Population: 3,400,000 | Average Home Price: $365,000 | Precipitation: 43" | Snow: 41"



Bend, Oregon Oregon’s Natural Playground
This Oregon town's municipal airport was used for pilot training during World War II…

Population: 52,000 | Average Home Price: $209,000 | Precipitation: 12" | Snow: 34"



Hartford, Connecticut The Insurance Capital
This Connecticut city is home to America's oldest State House, oldest public art museum, and oldest continuously published newspaper...

Population: 1,183,000 | Average Home Price: $155,000 | Precipitation: 41" | Snow: 42"



Cape Cod, Massachusetts Jewel of the New England Coast
This peninsula is home to the oldest public library in America: the Sturgis Library, established in 1644…

Population: 222,000 | Average Home Price: $325,000 | Precipitation: 46" | Snow: 34"



Stamford-Norwalk, Connecticut Connecticut’s Key Cities
This seaside spot in Connecticut is projected to have the highest median income in the country by 2009…

Population: 353,600 | Average Home Price: $365,000 | Precipitation: 43" | Snow: 47"



Carson City, Nevada Nevada’s Historic Capital
This Frontier city thrived and became a territorial capital following the discovery of the famous Comstock silver lode in the 1850's…

Population: 53,000 | Average Home Price: $175,000 | Precipitation: 11" | Snow: 32"



Cambridge, Massachusetts Boston’s Spirited Sister
Home to Harvard, MIT, and a large number of high-tech companies, this spot is world-renowned as an educational and technological mecca…

Population: 101,000 | Average Home Price: $380,000 | Precipitation: 42" | Snow: 41"



Santa Fe, New Mexico Jewel of the Southwest
This New Mexico town receives more snow annually than most towns in Connecticut…

Population: 62,000 | Average Home Price: $250,000 | Precipitation: 14" | Snow: 29"



Portland, Oregon City of Roses
This Oregon city has the nation's largest forested municipal park, the aptly-named Forest Park…

Population: 1,573,000 | Average Home Price: $196,000 | Precipitation: 36" | Snow: 5"



Reno, Nevada Biggest Little City in the World
This "biggest little city in the world" is famous for its casinos and recreational opportunities…

Population: 180,500 | Average Home Price: $225,000 | Precipitation: 7" | Snow: 24"



Medford, Oregon Gateway to the Pacific Northwest
This gorgeous spot boasts the West's only operating water-powered grist mill, located on the banks of Little Butte Creek since 1872…

Population: 63,000 | Average Home Price: $166,000 | Precipitation: 19" | Snow: 8"



Albuquerque, New Mexico The Pulse of New Mexico
This city's International Balloon Fiesta features 850 hot air balloons each October…

Population: 450,000 | Average Home Price: $163,000 | Precipitation: 8" | Snow: 15"



Baltimore, Maryland The Sparkling Harbor City
This Atlantic seaboard city is home to the National Aquarium…

Population: 4,750,000 | Average Home Price: $215,000 | Precipitation: 40" | Snow: 18"



Milwaukee, Wisconsin The Genuine American City
This Wisconsin "City of Festivals" celebrates its diverse ethnic heritage all year long, with over 20 major cultural festivals…

Population: 1,500,000 | Average Home Price: $125,000 | Precipitation: 31" | Snow: 47"



Washington, District of Columbia The World's Greatest Capital
This most patriotic of American cities was laid out by a French architect…

Population: 572,000 | Average Home Price: $300,000 | Precipitation: 39" | Snow: 16"



Gaithersburg, Maryland The Park City
This town is home to a "Latitude Observatory" - one of five in the world - built in 1899 to measure the wobble of the earth's axis...

Population: 53,000 | Average Home Price: $300,000 | Precipitation: 40" | Snow: 18"



Chicago, Illinois The Windy City
This big city has more shopping center space per capita than any other American city…

Population: 8,300,000 | Average Home Price: $210,000 | Precipitation: 32" | Snow: 40"



Madison, Wisconsin Athens Of The Midwest
Located between lakes Monona and Mendota, this picturesque spot is the only North American city built on an isthmus…

Population: 426,500 | Average Home Price: $202,000 | Precipitation: 30" | Snow: 44"



Oak Park, Illinois A Great Way of Life
This spot is home to the world's largest collection of Frank Lloyd Write designed houses and buildings, with 25 of them built between 1889 and 1913…

Population: 52,500 | Average Home Price: $298,000 | Precipitation: 35" | Snow: 33"



Sacramento, California The River City
This state capital is the oldest incorporated city in California…

Population: 1,628,000 | Average Home Price: $224,000 | Precipitation: 17" | Snow: 0"

Guess I'll stay right where I am.

Big Baby Bingo (Chris V), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

the midwest starts around baltimore and ends around las vegas

West Virginia is so not the Midwest.

Formerly Lee G (Formerly Lee G), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm still amazed that there are places where you can, like, buy a house for under $200,000.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Chicago does not have 8 million people! Unless they're counting the whole metro area. But then they're sort of double counting, since places like Oak Park are in the mix, as well.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm still amazed that there are places where you can, like, buy a house for under $200,000.

Up until a coupla years ago, you coulda bought three or four houses for that kinda cash. At least.

Formerly Lee G (Formerly Lee G), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Where? Kiev?

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry: Baltimore, Maryland, USA

Formerly Lee G (Formerly Lee G), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

That's like the same damn thing, dude.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Chicago does indeed have 8 million in the metro area, 3 million in the city. Compare to NYC's 21 million metro area, with 7 million in the city.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it does consider metro areas rather than cities proper (why wouldn't you? for most of the questions, it wouldn't matter which you lived in), although that invites the question of how it decides you'd rather live in Cambridge than Boston, or vice versa. Maybe preferred community size, public transportation, and cost preference come into that.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

(i.e. New Orleans for instance: there's public transportation in the surrounding towns; there's public transportation in the city; but there is no public transportation that takes you from one to the other, which is certainly a factor for would-be bus commuters.)

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm still amazed that there are places where you can, like, buy a house for under $200,000.

I've seen parking spaces in Manhatten sold for more than what I paid for my house.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

hahaha wow the top ones are already so close to my home in the US:
Williamstown, MA
Northampton, MA
Middlebury, VT
Burlington, VT
Hartford, CT
Danbury, CT

actually, I privileged new england, but I suspect it would've turned out this way regardless. I heart the berkshires.

sgs (sgs), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

You know people always talk shit about Manhattan but D.C. and vicinity is more expensive.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

How much do the parking spaces cost there?

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

oregon here i come! uh

providence
portland
new haven
hartford
worcester
boston
little rock (?!)
baltimore
eugene, or
corvallis, or
baton rouge
new orleans
salem, or
washington
milwaukee
danbury, ct (??!)
medford, or
sacramento
san francisco
san jose
shreveport
cape cod
honolulu
alexandria, la

maura (maura), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

That's like the same damn thing, dude.

Perhaps, but my cheap house in my nice little neighborhood is worth a lot more than it was two years ago, and what I pay on my mortgage each month wouldn't rent a closet in NYC or DC. There isn't as much to do here, true, but I can afford to do all of it if I want.

Formerly Lee G (Formerly Lee G), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and my cheap house came with a big-ass tree-lined yard for my kid to play in and my dogs to romp around. It came included in the price.

Formerly Lee G (Formerly Lee G), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Come back. I don't bite. Much.

Formerly Lee G (Formerly Lee G), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

dude WTF can I say to you? Your house may have been cheap but congratulations on living in a part of the country that's seen housing prices double and double again in the past couple of years? Whatever. Enjoy your luck in purchasing property before the entire country tripped their balls with front-loaded adjustable rate mortgages, you and the rest of this whole joke of a metropolitan area can all join hands and think about how you wouldn't have a chance of affording the house you live in at current prices.

I have a coworker who moved into his house last summer, he gets paid more than anybody else on his street and he lives in the smallest house. When he told his neighbor what he paid for it she was just like "shit, if I'd known they was going for that much, I'd a let you have mine." Hers is quite a bit larger. Makes him feel great.

sorry I don't mean to get particularly nasty towards you but this is really one of my touchy issues lately, finding out that Alex in NYC sold his loft in downtown Manhattan for less than I see condos in CRAP DC NEIGHBORHOODS going for, or hearing how others are buying HOUSES in Brooklyn, etc. etc. I'm like wtf ever DC metropolitan land, you can totally go fuck yourself. I just need a job in NYC or some other real city besides this shithole, and to finish my master's, and I'm never coming back here again.

$1150/month RENT for a "1BR" smaller than my "studio" with no closet space to speak of, crappy appliances, awful carpet and essentials right on the distant edge of 4-5 blocks, with nothing to do unless you hop on the subway - DC ain't that fuckin' special. Please do not tell me any more details about your mortgage, I honestly don't want to hear anything about it. This region can suck a dick (and it will, eventually, I mean when the Discovery Channel has a TV show making fun of how ridiculous your real estate market is, that might be a sign it's time for a slowdown (or a crash))

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, with the fact that Baltimore is over an hour away from DC and the public transit there isn't exactly a reliable method of getting to and from either city thanks to DC being an absolute shithole with no need to keep it's public transit running at all at night, I wouldn't call Baltimore "DC Vicinity," though god knows rent.net and theknot.com seem to think that North B'more and its suburbs is totally DC suburbs.

My cheap, large 2 bdrm apt "came with" free utilities and a public transit system that actually works and about 8 trillion things to do and a job market whose pay scale is so retardedly overinflated that a secretary can make more than her stockbroker father who lives in another city, if we're going to get into pissing matches over a joke.

Like you said already, your own house wouldn't be going for cheap now, which kind of implies what I asked you in my question: "Where, Kiev?" BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE PRICE IT IS NOW IS IT?

Jesus dude.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, because of housing shortages in urban Russia and Ukraine I'm pretty sure Kiev is pretty expensive, possibly worse than even BALTIMORE, making my joke really just a sub-Yakov Smirnoff amusement!

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 01:49 (twenty-one years ago)

B'more got some good restaurants though.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 01:49 (twenty-one years ago)

also, Black Sea is famous world over for mussels and hardshells

(xpost)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

That is one thing that the DC area and Bodymore Murderland have over NYC and just about everywhere else as far as I can tell, I've never had better clams casino or steamed mussels or in fact anything approaching Maryland seafood anywhere else. That ain't worth paying $300K over appraisal value for an SFH though.

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 1 December 2004 03:11 (twenty-one years ago)

The findyourspot site would be better if you could weight each question/factor as to how much it meant to you. For me, give me cheap residential real estate and quick access to an airport with a major carrier's hub and I'm pretty well set. Well, unless you're talking Cincinnati :-)

Jeff Wright (JeffW1858), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 03:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Dee, millions of people have no difficulty getting into the holiday spirit in warm weather, including most of your neighbors.

Ha ha ha ha. You should see how sparsely decorated my neighborhood is right now. I mean, like, there are only about two houses per block that have any decorations at all up right now. And I know it's early in the holiday season and all, but even right around Christmas Eve last year only three houses per block were decorated, and IIRC there are twenty houses per block in my neighborhood.

Truth is, I'm sick of hot and humid weather WHENEVER, regardless of whether it affects the holiday season or not. I am tired of having fall or winter start later and later each year. I am tired of having sweaters in my closet I hardly ever seem to use. I am tired of wanting to live in an ice bath for five months out of the year. I hate crispy tanned skin, I don't own any shorts or tank tops (and believe me, you wouldn't want me to), I'm 150% sure employers around here would frown upon beachwear at the office, and, damn it, I want to see ACTUAL SNOW falling for once in my life! I mean, like, actual snowflakes, with actual ground accumulation, with maybe enough snow on the ground to form a few snowballs.

Drama Queen Wannabe (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 03:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Damn it, I want to love this city so much, and do a great deal of the time, but there are times when this city just doesn't do it for me, and right now is one of them. And I guess I'm not at all surprised that no one has gotten my city in their "top 24" list, but I would be over the moon if this city had enough going for it to where maybe a couple of people around here would be able to find it attractive, and... argh.

Drama Queen Wannabe (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 03:39 (twenty-one years ago)

dee i hear san antone is pretty great! mike nesmith thought so anyway!

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 03:40 (twenty-one years ago)

"Most of your neighbours" in this case meant "San Antonio in general." The most decorated houses I've seen were in San Antonio -- and that's saying something -- and those little paper lanterns were everywhere, not to mention the tamale ladies and other signs of a town that's developed its own Christmas traditions instead of handwringing over whether the mirror looks like a postcard. Christmas really doesn't need cold weather; if you lived in the north, you'd be sick of it instead.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 03:47 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah it ain't like the lawd jesus had a white christmas

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

(It's fine to just not like hot weather. You don't need all these appeals to a strawman idea of "normal" and the true spirit of Christmas and so on. Just like stuff and dislike stuff. People do it every day.)

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 04:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I was just providing that as merely an example, a sample, a footnote, really. Not a huge part of the argument. Though, yes, maybe I do kinda want what the postcards and movies and commercials and ads and holiday specials show, and yes, it does appear as though I'm trying to build it up as a part of the argument.

As for the decorations -- pretty much the whole of the northwest side seems pretty much not to be into the holiday spirit, but as for the rest of the city? Well, the west side is pretty much anything pro-celebration and festivities, so they'd happily take any excuse to decorate. The northeast side has to put on elaborate decorations so it'll pull the hundreds of thousands of passers-by who'll drive through that area gawking at the holiday displays, and the downtown has to put on displays for the tourists. The rest of the city I don't know about, though I'd imagine the east side would be much like the west side (except toned down a bit).

I guess you are glamourizing the Other here, though, much like I seem to be. I see tamales all year long; there's nothing particularly special about them. The chocolate thing, I do confess, I have yet to try out, though I could go anywhere to get the Abuelita bricks and the molcajete to make it. (And we do have both here at the house.) The local university that has an annual tradition of festooning a pathway with lights does it not out of some sense of wanting to participate in a special version of Christmas but rather out of its innate impulse to try to outdo every other university in town, even though the quality of its academics is mostly suspect. And... other sorts of things.

(And I'm not trying for "normal", really! Just different. More "American". Something that's Other. I mean, you're dealing with someone who's coming up on her fourth year of not even being out of town, so she's sorta got a massive case of cabin fever.)

Drama Queen Wannabe (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 04:47 (twenty-one years ago)

And I'm sorta yearning for people, similar to the ones who hang out here but not necessarily the actual ones, to feel like this city is attractive enough to note that attractiveness. But, as of now, I haven't heard that sort of thing from that sort of individual, so as a consequence I have constant nightmares of this place being even more overrun with the frat boy types Tom described awhile back and the little mascara-ed and miniskirted princesses who love them, thus ensuring that not much in the way of High Culture actually becomes popular. And it's kinda important that we have our own sphere of High Culture here, too, because driving some 90 or so miles up to Austin to access anything like that would kinda be a pain for someone who has a precariously tight schedule to maintain.

*ahem* Anyway. So... how 'bout that Pittsburgh place?

Drama Queen Wannabe (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 04:57 (twenty-one years ago)

No, I understand. Texas is indeed hell on earth. Godspeed, Drama Queen.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 06:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not romanticizing the other -- especially since it's not very other for me -- I'm pointing out the whole cultures unbothered by the lack of cold weather (and they're still American). You can like whatever sort of Christmas you like, that's cool -- just because I don't want a white Christmas doesn't mean I think anything's wrong with it -- but it has nothing to do with what makes for a real Christmas, an American Christmas, a normal Christmas, or whatever other validating word you want to toss in. You have a habit of couching your opinions in comments about what is or isn't normal, what is or isn't mainstream or idealized, as though you're constantly measuring how you feel against a projection of how you think everyone else feels, and you're generally wrong; you do it more often than you used to, so I point it out more often.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)


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