Yasmin (UK TV)

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just been watching this on channel 4, wondered what people thoguht.

suffered slightly too much from Making Sure We Got the Bleedin Point (errant kid chucks away weed and phone to turn to islam, staring into the middle distance to the accompanying chilly synth washes), but everythign seems to ahve to be writ large on tv it seems.

i thoguht it was still pretty powerful, and a positve sign that channel 4 is willing to screen 1hr40 min dramas on a weeknight...maybe they got tired of wife swap.

any other views?

― ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 14 January 2005 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

great central performance from the woman i thought but i was only half watching it.

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 14 January 2005 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Very good stuff, gave me nightmares.

― Puddin'Head Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 14 January 2005 10:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw the preview and guessed how it would pan out (didn't watch the programme)

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 14 January 2005 10:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Crap. Meant to watch this. It seemed pretty obvious plot-wise etc from the ads, is it worth trying to get hold of a copy?

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 14 January 2005 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Very disappointing. That dour, drama-less, visually sludgy default setting of olden C4. Central performance was not bad, but the role was *so* loaded. So feeble in its moral positions -- it couldn't even follow through on the idea of her being locked up. It needed the vision of 'Summer of Love' -- sympathy for religious loonery included.

― Miles Finch, Friday, 14 January 2005 10:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I enjoyed it, but it did suffer a little from the sledgehammer/nut thing. Smaler brother character lifted wholesale from White Teeth, but I thought the father was delt with interestingly.

― Anna (Anna), Friday, 14 January 2005 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Small = Smaler.

― Anna (Anna), Friday, 14 January 2005 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

i thought this was horrible, wooly liberal tosh, personally

― stelfox, Friday, 14 January 2005 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)

and by that i mean it was blunt-edged, worthy, claptrap that didn't look into anything too deeply. glad anna mentioned white teeth because i got the same feeling from this. anyone know what that thing set against a backdrop in what the writers obviously though the desi music scene must be like was called? reminded me of that, too

― stelfox, Friday, 14 January 2005 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

it was blunt edged worthy claptrap maybe, but it was on national telly on a channel that until recently was screening wife swap, still is screening Kenzie from Blazin squad sitting in a spa with Sly Stallones mum?

i think despite the obvious criticism, its still a positive sign they put it on. "Dont call me asian" on Radio 4 the other night was a much better doc, but nearly everything on the radio is better than tv really.

― ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 14 January 2005 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)

actually you'll learn more about the state of britain from big brother than from this. the whole problem with it is the 'look, this is serious' approach.

― Miles Finch, Friday, 14 January 2005 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

by that i mean the 'it's good they put it on' anlge. it's a gesture. it failed to challenge anyone. because we all hate racists, and we all know most muslims disapproved of 9/11, and we all know that in bad circumstances demagogues can turn young minds. what did the programme have to say?

― Miles Finch, Friday, 14 January 2005 13:41 (twenty-one years ago)

"because we all hate racists, and we all know most muslims disapproved of 9/11, and we all know that in bad circumstances demagogues can turn young minds. what did the programme have to say?"

yeah? who is "we"?
ILX?

the programme was less about racism, in its BNP sort of form, cartoonish and exaggerated. to me, it seemed more about the soft racism that runs through out this fucking country, through my household ,through your group of friends, in the pages of the Guardian. Yes we hate "racists", but what do we do when confronted with casual islamophobia?

you obviosuly havent read the daily mail recently. the fact is, it is mroe and more acceptable for the nation as a whole to fear and suspect any one with however tenous a link to what people now perceive as a threat, be it "asian", muslim, middle eastern or whatever. maybe not at your dinner table, but however blindingly obvious it was put in the film the guy she was dating who said "its only a joke. but you lot have a lot to answer for" is more than just a cartoon. ive heard those sort of views from people i know, and ive seen the equivalent in the media. the programme might not have said much to you, but it may have doen to a lot of other people.

and this, "actually you'll learn more about the state of britain from big brother than from this" is the sort of flip, meaningless comment that esp. ILX peeps love to spout but is actually pretty wrong.

― ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 14 January 2005 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, that's kind of what i meant -- those views are everywhere, but 'we' the sophisticated 10pm c4-watching liberal know better. the prog did nothing to challenge either those views or 'our' smugness. on cbb there is the chance of the unexpected. i doubt anyone with racist views, or casually islamophobic views better put, would have had their mind blown by it, because of it's churchiness. maybe if it had made the brother into the central character -- a kind of 'made in britain' film -- that might have upset things. but i don't think the film made a contribution.

― Miles Finch, Friday, 14 January 2005 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Yasmin not made for television shocker:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1389092,00.html

although having said that it was made for an even more liberal audience: people who go to see low-budget films at cinemas.

― Puddin'Head Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 14 January 2005 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Totally not important bit: where was it set? Was it supposed to anywhere specific or was it a generic Yorkshire Everytown?

― Anna (Anna), Friday, 14 January 2005 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Keighley, a BNP hotspot according to that article.

― Puddin'Head Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 14 January 2005 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, i know what yr saying. i nearly fell off my sofa when i saw channel 4 was doing that documentary about keith jarrett before xmas, especialy him and the bits with him and chick corea playing mozart in japan. was like 4 was doing what it was supposed to for once, so i suppose i'm not against this film in principle. i just thought it could have been better.

― stelfox, Friday, 14 January 2005 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Archie Panjabi (Yasmin) was brilliant though - i'd like to see more of her.

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 14 January 2005 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

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