― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Miles Finch, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Masonic Boom-Boom (kate), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 15:52 (twenty-one years ago)
i wish more us ppl would reply though, things are not quite as peachy on this side of the pond you know.
what would the us equiv of a "cv" be?
― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)
cv = resume
― Miles Finch, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)
The typing tests are fun! The math tests are not, if they give you those. My advice would be to sneak a calculator in your bag.
― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Masonic Boom-Boom (kate), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― Masonic Boom-Boom (kate), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)
these are the ones i gleaned off the internet.
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― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)
I'm undecided about 'temp lag'. Example: job I'm in now, it's my third month. Assignment was meant to be two days. This happens all the time, and although it's better than having no work it can cut into your motivation to 'get a proper job' (if you're like me).
― Miles Finch, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― Masonic Boom-Boom (kate), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― Masonic Boom-Boom (kate), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Miles Finch, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Masonic Boom-Boom (kate), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)
Worst temp job ever: one of the same friends had to sit at a school for a day and erase all the "outside the lines" pencil marks on all the standardized tests.
― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)
not to be mean, but if you're not comfortable writing a resume, you're probably better off getting another kind of job. you need to be pretty comfortable with computers, words, and following patterns that pre-date you. so the resume is a good test to see if that'll suit you.
in my experience, you can't just show up at an agency. i'd call several, set up appointments (if they'll let you, perhaps you need to send your resume before you even get an appointment), take their tests without getting too stressed about their scores.
once you're on their files, be persistent with them. i found better luck with smaller agencies that were hungry for business. ring every day or every other day asking if they've found you work. they'll find you stuff more quickly if you're on their mind (and if they want you to stop calling them)
xpost-- temp jobs can range from an afternoon to over a year. if you're there longer term, i'm with kate-- they shouldn't be paying the agency anymore, give you a raise with the money, and give you some money.
― colette (a2lette), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)
my advice would be to take the first assignment(s), and then ask if there's something that pays more. usually there is and they just wantt to "test" you as a candidate first. annoying, i know. i had long term assignments, which can be something of a drag - bear in mind that they'll treat you like an ordinary employee even though you are on a permanent probation. that means if you're there long enough they'll begin to take advantage. this is particularly true in areas with a lot of labor slack.
bear in mind that you may find yourself working for some pretty miserable companies (i.e. those that are heavy into privatizing social services in US, etc. and are under investigation for fraud) but look at it this way: when the indictments come down, your workplace will be exciting!
me personally: blacklisted from the temp agency circuit after demanding a promised pay raise in concert with several others who were promised likewise. temps really need union representation: not only will employers hire moles thru the temp agency, they'll pay everyone differently even if they're performing the same work with the same output. this isn't a shockah to many, but it makes things difficult down the road when that info inevitably leaks.
but yeah, look in the phone book under staffing agencies or something to that effect.
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)
The only quarrel I had with temp agencies was that the work tends to be feast or famine. At the time, I was freelancing, and I wanted to have two or three days of temp work a week and spend the rest of the week doing my own writing, editing, etc.
But generally what I got was either long assignments or none at all. It was very easy to go a week with no calls, then get sent to the middle of nowhere for a month--much harder to get a steady stream of short assignments. Generally, long temp assignments have a good chance of becoming permanent, though, so if that's what you want it can be a good thing.
An upside to temping versus freelance work is that they take care of taxes and other niggling little details like that.
― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)
i don't want to be offered a permanent position or stay too long, benefits or no.
― Miles Finch, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)
sample lines from REPORT A:2945240857204 24-9-0248 5-24-3 000000002945294245 csifuw 3r98395 412945240857204 24-9-0248 5-24-3 000000002945294245 csifuw 3r98395 422945240857204 24-9-0248 5-24-3 000000002945294245 csifuw 3r98395 432945240857204 24-9-0248 5-24-3 000000002945294245 csifuw 3r98395 442945240857204 24-9-0248 5-24-3 000000002945294245 csifuw 3r98395 452945240857204 24-9-0248 5-24-3 000000002945294245 csifuw 3r98395 462945240857204 24-9-0248 5-24-3 000000002945294245 csifuw 3r98395 472945240857204 24-9-0248 5-24-3 000000002945294245 csifuw 3r98395 48
sample lines from report B:2945240857204 24-9-0248 5-24-3 000000002945294245 csifuw 3r98395 412945240857204 24-9-0248 5-24-3 000000002945294245 csifuw 3r98395 422945240857204 24-9-0248 5-24-3 000000002945294245 csifuw 3r98395 432945240857204 24-9-0248 5-24-3 000000002945294245 csifuw 3r98395 442945240857204 24-9-0248 5-24-3 000000002945294245 csifuw 3r98395 452945240857204 24-9-0248 5-24-3 000000002945295245 csifuw 3r98395 462945240857204 24-9-0248 5-24-3 000000002945294245 csifuw 3r98395 472945240857204 24-9-0248 5-24-3 000000002945294245 csifuw 3r98395 48
― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)
so wait, i'm not even getting paid full wages here?? this sounds shitty, i'm thinking wal-mart stockroom again.
this appointment thing does not make me happy either. i was just gonna show up at a bunch tomorrow, now i may have to push this back again.
― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Masonic Boom-Boom (kate), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)
Reading the newspaper! Just imagine how fun it would've been had there been an internet.
WORST TEMP JOB: Coallating newspaper inserts in a hot garage with a mean fat smelly man named Michael J. Fox. I stood up for eight hours, getting papercuts, while we listened to Rush Limbaugh and Larry King. The other two hours was on soft rock. I shudder more than most whenever I hear the "Fields of Gold" song by Sting or that "In the middle of the night..." song by Billy Joel.
Oh, and I didn't have to have a resume for either of those two. Nor did I need one for the styrofoam factory, the truck wash, or the hose clamp factory.
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)
there's loads of websites about how to write a resume. just google it and shouldn't take you more than an hour or so.
are you in chicago? or another bigger city? much easier to find temp work in big cities than in small communities...
― colette (a2lette), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)
i've had widely different experiences in re phning ahead. actually i spent the afternoon of september 11 2001 going round agencies i'd booked interviews at. it was fucked up.
― Miles Finch, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)
However, I turned up to two temping agencies and each one was, perhaps predictably, manned by brainless but exceedingly hot ladies - one in a fetching suit/ skirt that made my tongue hang out the side of my motuh!!
That made things a bit more pleasant. Shame the conversation was slightly less enlightening than morning tea with a New Labour voter.
― Temping Tom, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)
When I got a long-term $10/hr temp assignment right after college it seemed like the best thing ever, but after a year with no raise, vacation days, insurance, etc. I started feeling taken advantage of.
― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)
wow. there should be a book written about this, or something.
is there any chance i will work at a CALL CENTER? that has always sounded like fun to me. the ones where you take calls from crazies, i mean.
― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)
You can get unemployment in California if you're a temp and your assignment ends. But CA looks to your employment nine months previous; if you weren't employed then, you're out of luck. Oh and I don't know that anyplace in the US has to give you unemployment if you were fired (it used to be that employers didn't really put up a fuss about this but after the economic stress of the last few years, they probably do now; all of this comes back to employers who have to play for unemployment insurance).
Temp agencies will take somewhere up to a third of your wages.
This is transparent to the worker in the US at most places. Office pays agency say, $60/hr. Agency keeps 1/2, pays the other half to temp. Temp only knows what th agency pays them, and is usually not able to find out how much their agency is taking off of them, because then they'd get pissed, probably.
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)
in the uk VERY MUCH SO!! but be warned: fun it is not.
― Miles Finch, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Charlie Rose (Charlie Rose), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Temping Tom, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)
The woman who worked at the front desk of my temp agency was really hot as well.
― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Miles Finch, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)
yeah, blacklisted. going to the boss to ask for a promised pay raise with a number of coworkers who were promised same resulted in a mighty fine blacklisting once i was forced out. i say forced out because i wasn't fired - my supervisors just began to ridicule my research background (i temped after being unable to find work that suited either my undergrad or grad degree) because this was a fiercely anti-intellectual firm. my temp rep was worthless - pretty though she may be, her allegiance was to the client and not the temp.
/xpost
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:52 (twenty-one years ago)
Have you considered a day or 2 course in basic jobhunting skills? It'll help you get a good resume together, teach you how to act in an interview, how to dress to impress, work out what kind of work you're good at, as well as wanting to do.
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)
i figure temp jobs = taking advantage of ppl in desperate situations = they won't have much choice, right?
― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 02:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)
I owe my current career trajectory to a legal temp agency. Not a bad way to go. You dont really have to do much work w/r/t looking for a job because most big firms solely rely on the agencies to screen everyone, plus its free. Its only really heinous if they never hire you full time. Alot of that goes on these days - keeping people on as temp, working them 35 hours a week or less to avoid paying benefits. Pretty common, tho.
My worst work experience of all time was working for this one placement agency that did document coding on the side. The whole time the lady in charge was assuring me that she was looking out for work for me, all the while I'd work coding class action medical documents for said lady's fucking retarded daughter. THERE WASNT EVEN WATER TO DRINK.
― Juan, the Magic Don (jingleberries), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)
Beyond that, I wouldn't even entertain the idea of going suitless to an interview. Although, if everyone else did I'd be a shoe-in.
― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 02:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 02:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 02:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 02:51 (twenty-one years ago)
Plus I showered.
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)
i shower but it's not really for the hygeine.
i forgot to do laundry too and there is no chance it's getting done now.
― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 05:40 (twenty-one years ago)
JUST LET ONE RIP DURING THE INTERVIEW MAN! GO ALL THE WAY! RIGHT IN HER FACE DO IT
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 05:49 (twenty-one years ago)
i almost shaved tonight but then i didn't. i won't shave tomorrow either.
― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 06:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 06:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 06:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― ()()ps, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 10:52 (twenty-one years ago)
As I said, you *are* expected to make an effort. The clients might be desperate to fill their vacancies; but there's always a big supply of willing people, and most of them will be more willing to shave than you are. Our applicant database is full of notes like "unshaven" or "untidy-looking - do not use if poss". There are certain standards that you're expected to meet.
― caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)
Would you hire you?
― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― Miles Finch, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)
Be careful with this. It's casual everyday where I work and prospective interviewees are told this but IT'S A TRAP. If you don't come to the interview in a suit you will not be hired. Sick.
― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)
xpost (okay guys - I think it's quite obvious he doesn't really want to find work)
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― xxx, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)
Another trap- a partner took us out to lunch and asked us what kind of wine we'd like. Of course drinking during office hours is forbidden so everybody declined. We were commended by the partner for following firm standards.
― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― Masonic Boom-Boom (kate), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Miles Finch, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― ()()ps, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)
When did you work for EEI? I work (if you can call waiting around hoping that the phone will ring working) for them now.
― j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)
Have some fucking responsibility for once. You're acting like a spoiled, dumb little kid.
― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― xxx, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)
ps SORRY FOR NOT BEING GREEDY ENUFF PPL
― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)
??
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)
xpost
― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― S!monB!rch (Carey), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)
Crikey.
Well it's looking good anyway. :)
― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)
Yeah, John is really keeping it real.
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)