Here's my question: please name media outlets--TV, print, web, whatever--that have political content and you find to be relatively ideologically balanced: that is, to not skew significantly one way or another on the whole.
Then feel free to dispute other people's picks, once you've named your own.
― Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 20 January 2005 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― LSD ARISTOCAT (ex machina), Thursday, 20 January 2005 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 20 January 2005 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Huk-L, Thursday, 20 January 2005 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Juan, the Magic Don (jingleberries), Thursday, 20 January 2005 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― kingfish (Kingfish), Thursday, 20 January 2005 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Michael White (Hereward), Thursday, 20 January 2005 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― I Am Curious (George) (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 20 January 2005 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Michael White (Hereward), Thursday, 20 January 2005 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― Soukesian, Thursday, 20 January 2005 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 20 January 2005 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Thursday, 20 January 2005 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)
I don't have any answers. I tend to use the BBC news site in general though.
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 20 January 2005 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)
Ew, actually I wouldn't. Ew.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 20 January 2005 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― Huk-L, Thursday, 20 January 2005 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)
The BBC
NOT CNN jesus people!! this is the network that says things like "keep it right here for updates on the holiday terror situation... 24 hours a day"
NOT NPR .. "fuzzy-sweater liberal" just means they drive a Volvo instead of a Jeep but it's the same fucking diff, people
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 20 January 2005 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― kingfish (Kingfish), Thursday, 20 January 2005 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 21 January 2005 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)
NPR, NYT and WaPo all have both left and right tendencies. CNN is basically the neo-con network with a few snarky blue-state-isms thrown in.
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 21 January 2005 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)
and wrt BBC, I'm referring to the website and World Service
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 21 January 2005 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― youn, Friday, 21 January 2005 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 21 January 2005 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 21 January 2005 03:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 21 January 2005 06:21 (twenty-one years ago)
kingfish otm
― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 21 January 2005 07:44 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.havoca.org/images/News.h1.jpg"News just in"
― Johnney B (Johnney B), Friday, 21 January 2005 08:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― Miles Finch, Friday, 21 January 2005 09:52 (twenty-one years ago)
say, who remembers:
http://www.lanesarasohn.com/tvwriter/images/nntn1.jpg
― kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 21 January 2005 09:59 (twenty-one years ago)
The NY Times, yeah ... harps on Whitewater for a couple years, then lets Judith Miller play Chicken Little for W's pre-war rationale? Very balanced.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 January 2005 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― Stevem On X (blueski), Friday, 21 January 2005 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 21 January 2005 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Stevem On X (blueski), Friday, 21 January 2005 15:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 21 January 2005 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Friday, 21 January 2005 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)
after a while, it begins to all meld together. new info needs to fit into pre-existing narratives/storylines, or by god we'll make it so. Music journos are like this, too. That's why every band from Seattle was a grunge band!
― kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 21 January 2005 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)
(...towards the Pittsburgh Steelers)
― kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 21 January 2005 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)
Balance is a whole other issue that has to do with how many of what kind of stories get reported, and its meaning varies depending on the publication or broadcast, its intended audience, etc. etc. Some striving for "balance" is worthwhile, as is some striving for "objectivity," but ultimately the people running the show need to decide for themselves -- hopefully using reasonable criteria -- what they think is important, and cover it -- fairly.
So, I think NPR, the NYT, the Wall St. Journal, the WaPo, the BBC, the Guardian, and the major weeklies (not just Time and Newsweek but the New Yorker and the Economist too) all do a decent job of fair coverage. You can find glaring exceptions in all of them, in every issue. They all have blind spots that become obvious to regular readers and that need to be kept in mind. But if I want to get some general idea of what's going on in, say, Sudan, I would trust all of those outlets to provide at least an overview. CNN and the rest of the broadcast spectrum, much less so, for the simple reason that they generally don't devote the time necessary to get even an overview.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 21 January 2005 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)
Classic tweet yesterday.
Hey @mrjamesob, why is the @caitlinmoran podcast episode just 43mins long and not 3hrs?!— FarFarAwayFromHere (@Colognetastic) June 22, 2020
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 10:56 (five years ago)
thread has a real quaint post-90s end of history vibe to it
― If you choose too long a name, your new display name will be truncated in (Left), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 12:25 (five years ago)
I agree -- it's surprising to see people talk about Centrism in 2005, when it seems to mean something a bit different now.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 12:41 (five years ago)
Great column by Perry Bacon Jr. on "an anti-woke centrism that is increasingly prominent in American media and politics today, particularly among powerful White men who live on the coasts and don’t identify as Republicans or conservatives."
It really matters that these anti-woke centrists often live in deeply Democratic areas. If you are in a red state, like me, you are constantly in fear of your state government adopting conservative policies — such as new limitations on reproductive freedom, transgender rights and honest education about race. But if you live in D.C. New York City or San Francisco, a much more realistic concern is that a “woke” liberal with whom you don’t agree gains political power — or sharply criticizes you in public.“Americans are losing hold of a fundamental right as citizens of a free country: the right to speak their minds and voice their opinions in public without fear of being shamed or shunned,” the New York Times declared in the first sentence of a March 2022 editorial.In reality, there has never been a right to voice your opinion without the possibility of being shamed or shunned (terms without precise meanings) — and there shouldn’t be. Shaming and shunning people are free expression, too. What I suspect this editorial was actually calling for is for self-described Democrats and liberals to be able to express more conservative views (such as skepticism about transgender rights) but without being attacked in the way that conservatives often are for such views (being called bigots).
“Americans are losing hold of a fundamental right as citizens of a free country: the right to speak their minds and voice their opinions in public without fear of being shamed or shunned,” the New York Times declared in the first sentence of a March 2022 editorial.
In reality, there has never been a right to voice your opinion without the possibility of being shamed or shunned (terms without precise meanings) — and there shouldn’t be. Shaming and shunning people are free expression, too. What I suspect this editorial was actually calling for is for self-described Democrats and liberals to be able to express more conservative views (such as skepticism about transgender rights) but without being attacked in the way that conservatives often are for such views (being called bigots).
― jaymc, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 17:12 (three years ago)