David Lynch - Classic or Dud

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Looked in the Films category for a discussion about him but suprisingly there doesn't seem to be one. So, Lynch, C or D?

Chris Lyons, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

And is Mullholland Drive any good?

Chris Lyons, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I used to really like him, but now think he's really hit or miss. I went to see "Mulholland Drive" expecting to hate it, and by the end of the movie I did. By the next day I changed my mind and now I love it.

Sean, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm mildly diffident on the Drive, leaning towards loathing. Lynch is just too darn "quirky". Bullshit complaint, I know, but that's what I think, and I'm sticking to that.

David Raposa, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Nothing but love, so let's not talk about Dune, okay?

Nitsuh, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I liked blue velvet. mostly because I like ROy ORbison , but the whole movie is pretty good escept for the ending

Mike Hanle y, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Absolute classic, since his first ever student films. His work with Alan Splet? on Eraserhead gave sound designers a whole new box of tricks. His editing and use of sound create almost visual poetry, playing with silence and darkness, it's refined the grammar of cinema, in my opinion. With the exception of 'Wild at Heart', which I just don't 'get', I'd recommend every film he's made.

K-reg, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Why not talk Dune?

K-reg, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What's wrong with Blue Velvet's ending?

Justyn Dillingham, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

its a happy ending. i love david lynch films. yah a couple suck. but the good parts make up for all of it. hell mulholland drive makes up for dune tenfold.

chaki, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I like Lost Highway,
The Straight Story, Blue Velvet.
Twin Peaks? That's great too.

Jeff W, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Didn't he do Elephant Man too?

Wild At Heart is fantastic - reading the book might help if you don't get the movie. I have bits of dreams and real-life that seem to be directed by David Lynch. I'm not as sexy as Sherrilyn Fenn though, which is one of the many tradgedies of my life.

toraneko, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Are you sure the ending of Blue Velvet is happy? It always seemed important to me that the bird was fake, and that the acting in the last scene is even more stilted than normal. Something about how happiness is defined.

Dan I., Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one year passes...
Twin Peaks got so wayward, uresolved, sticking in the memory increasingly boringly. yet I can watch Mullholand Drive again and again.

with its Aussie soap stars, Mulholland Drive is like a lost episode, at least outdoingFire walk with Me me in episodic tension or edge (but to be fair, what can be expeced from a prequel)

Mulholland Drive is a great film for Lynch, yanking him out of his US weirdo cult niche and projecting world class ideas onto the world stage. I fail to see how it could stand a chance at BAFTA with Princess Ann on the board however (Oscars and Globes out-of-th-qn i assume).

His outsiderness, and his adoption finally by Cannes, like a Roman Polanski.

george gosset (gegoss), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 08:16 (twenty-two years ago)

dune: classic or dud would be interesting.

amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 08:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I would love to say that David Lynch is a genius, who knows maybe he is, but he's just not for me. I have seen some of his stuff & I know it's meant to be weird & make you think about it, but it's too much. Blue Velvet, Mulholland Drive, you can keep them both.

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 09:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Amateurist I watched Dune a couple of years ago (at a Lynch all-nighter in Paris, no less) & I was quite surprised at how much I was LOVING it, at least until the mid-point of the second act or so when it completely disintegrated.

s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Wait - did David Lynch direct the OG Dune? Or are we talking about the recent redux? If we're talking about the OG I don't see how it could be anything other than KUHLASSICK.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Wait - did David Lynch direct the OG Dune?

Most certainly did -- his third film after Eraserhead and The Elephant Man.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

that movie really has some of the best production design ever. ever ever.

s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Factoid: Jodorowsky was originally scheduled to direct Dune, but his projected budget, among other things, prevented him from doing so.

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

good

jones (actual), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)

his fils can be classic or unclassic (straight story) or downright dud (wild at heart) but as a director and a persona he is never anything less than K-k-k-k-klassic!

Did anyone ever see that interview he did for scene by scene - i loved the bit where he's talking about "the eye of the duck" to describe the key scene in his films.

Also i highly recommend the book "Lynch on Lynch" - so much fun!

jed (jed_e_3), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

wild at heart rules!

s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I watched The Straight Story again recently and realized it might be one of my favorite of his films (as opposed to the first time I watched it, where my reaction could be summed up as such: "WTF?"). It's very touching, and about as involving as a film with so little "action" gets.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:11 (twenty-two years ago)

i would've liked it if he'd arrived at harry dean stanton's house in the first reel and they spent the rest of the picture hanging out on the porch

jones (actual), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

(same goes for Chris Isaak in Fire Walk with Me)

Herbstmute (Wintermute), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Mulholland Drive is a great film for Lynch, yanking him out of his US weirdo cult niche and projecting world class ideas onto the world stage. I fail to see how it could stand a chance at BAFTA with Princess Ann on the board however (Oscars and Globes out-of-th-qn i assume).

Umm. This movie is two years old. Why are we speculating on its award chances?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:40 (twenty-two years ago)


i had heard a rumor that lucas wanted lynch to direct one of the movies in the original trilogy, my guess would be return of the jedi. anyone else heard this? fact/fiction? if lynch had done one they might've been good.

*waiting for backlash*

Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

The ewoks would've drank coffee and there would've been creepy sax music.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)


creepy sex music would've been good too.

Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)


i'm guessing the effects would've been worse too, if that's possible.

Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

yes lynch was supposed to direct return of the jedi, he turned it down and did dune instead.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Man, I might've actually liked a Star Wars movie. Wait, but I didn't like Dune. Oh well. I would've like to see have seen it done, though.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 20:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I love love love love Mulholland Drive.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 30 October 2003 00:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Mulholland Dve, Elephant Man, Lost Hwy and Eraserhead are all great. Dune was shite (didnt Lynch have his name removed from it on re-release or something tho? Or am I confused). I wasn't a huge fan of Blue Velvet, and I never watched a second of Twin Peaks - I must be the only person in the world my age who hasn't!

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 30 October 2003 00:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, Lynch had his name removed from Dune. As I mentioned above, I really thing Mulholland Drive was a return for Lynch; I think it's great.

Sean (Sean), Thursday, 30 October 2003 01:21 (twenty-two years ago)

He had his name removed from the TV version, which did include a lot of extra footage that fanboy me appreciated (and which fleshed out the story a hell of a lot more readily). It was, however, a poor edit in technical terms, most notably with a complete hijacking of the musical score that made no sense.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 01:22 (twenty-two years ago)

only removed from the extended-for-TV version?

crosspost

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 30 October 2003 01:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Dune is one of my favorite movies ever. Makes perfect sense if you read the book (and don't anybody come back with "it should stand on it's own" bs, etc.)

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 30 October 2003 01:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Makes perfect sense if you read the book

Yeah, quite right. I read the book a year before the movie came out so my timing was perfect there...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 01:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Btw, Amazon describes the TV version as being 'shorter'.

Sean (Sean), Thursday, 30 October 2003 01:29 (twenty-two years ago)

!?! Amazon is wrong.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 01:29 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, I have both versions on DVD.

although, N. has had my copy of the cinema one for nearly a year, now.

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 30 October 2003 01:32 (twenty-two years ago)

It's now on my Netfilx queue since I haven't seen it in years. (and what are they doing recommending Cher Live to me?? Just because I rented The Eyes of Laura Mars?)

Sean (Sean), Thursday, 30 October 2003 01:36 (twenty-two years ago)

the recent TV Dune was unwatchable.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 30 October 2003 01:38 (twenty-two years ago)

you know the best bit of dune is when alicia witt sez "and how can this be? for he is the kwizzach hadarach!" and inexplicably pulls her bottom lip all the way across the side of her face on the 'be' or 'is', i forget which

cremaster's opulent mythboredom reminded me a lot of dune

prima fassy (bob), Thursday, 30 October 2003 08:23 (twenty-two years ago)

cremaster 2 most indebted, obv

prima fassy (bob), Thursday, 30 October 2003 08:24 (twenty-two years ago)

but not to dune

prima fassy (bob), Thursday, 30 October 2003 08:24 (twenty-two years ago)

to other suburban lynch

prima fassy (bob), Thursday, 30 October 2003 08:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, they traded a lot of music, much to Rollins and Lynch's delight. (They were mutual fans.)

Also gave some insight into how someone like Lynch can feasibly make movies - they may get name stars but they have very tight budgets.

birdistheword, Friday, 30 May 2025 17:53 (one year ago)

three months pass...

His compound's up for sale - $15 million asking price.

I hope the buyer preserves his workshop, at least in a way that can allow it to be recreated if they have no interest in keeping it intact and in use. Wouldn't be unprecedented - in the last few years, I was stunned to see Martin Scorsese's original family home's living room reconstructed from the original furniture (which he preserved) and a recreation of Hal Willner's studio at the NYPL.

birdistheword, Saturday, 13 September 2025 19:22 (eight months ago)

(Willner's studio was also put together from his actual belongings, of which there were MANY since it was his working studio until his untimely death from COVID.)

birdistheword, Saturday, 13 September 2025 19:23 (eight months ago)

Yeah they should turn it into a museum.

imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 13 September 2025 19:24 (eight months ago)

Link to the Zillow listing for pics, etc.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/7017-Senalda-Rd-Los-Angeles-CA-90068/20803620_zpid/

nickn, Saturday, 13 September 2025 22:35 (eight months ago)

Am I wrong in thinking that's a low listing price?

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 14 September 2025 02:26 (eight months ago)

I can contribute 5k to the ilx crowdfund

H.P, Sunday, 14 September 2025 02:28 (eight months ago)

We failed to buy the silverdome let’s not make the same mistake twice

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 14 September 2025 02:37 (eight months ago)

Michael Jordan's former mansion sold for less than $10 million after languishing on the market for a long time. Given the location (and as part of that, the cost of upkeep and insurance) for Lynch's compound, I think $15 million may be a bit optimistic.

birdistheword, Sunday, 14 September 2025 02:51 (eight months ago)

Yeah, take out the "Lynch" factor and this is a very optimistic price.

nickn, Sunday, 14 September 2025 02:58 (eight months ago)

Am I wrong in thinking that's a low listing price?

― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, September 13, 2025 7:26 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

as someone on the market to buy in LA now, though at a tiny fraction of that sticker price, $1364/sqft is pretty high. obviously with the amenities and history I understand why it’s a bit inflated

brony james (k3vin k.), Sunday, 14 September 2025 04:02 (eight months ago)

but the market is really bad for sellers right now. If it closes any time soon I doubt they’ll get the asking price

brony james (k3vin k.), Sunday, 14 September 2025 04:03 (eight months ago)

yeah, i was going off memory of an old friend trying to sell their Washington Heights place some 5-6 years back and forgot about market changes/wildfires/etc.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 14 September 2025 04:11 (eight months ago)

It looked like a lot of cement rooms (and per the description more bathrooms than bedrooms) - I kind of wonder if it was more suitable to turn it into a school or some kind of arts center or artist studios rather than to use it as another home.

birdistheword, Sunday, 14 September 2025 04:42 (eight months ago)

It's 3 separate houses, with some outbuildings. I wonder if it'll be divided back into 3 properties and re-sold individually.

nickn, Sunday, 14 September 2025 04:43 (eight months ago)

Even though this seems high from a real estate perspective, I was just looking back over his estate sale, and every last item was bid up massively over the expected price, which makes me think $15M is totally reasonable or possibly way less than what it will end up selling for.

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Sunday, 14 September 2025 17:43 (eight months ago)

Market is bad for sellers across the board, or just LA? Last I saw something like 30% of all house sales are cash, which is insane. Everyone I know that recently sold in Chicago sold at or over asking in just a day or two.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 14 September 2025 17:56 (eight months ago)

think it’s across the board. had read that sellers vastly outnumber buyers to a degree that hasn’t been seen in a while. and if you’re on Redfin a lot it’s pretty obvious — houses/condos on the market for months, closing price frequently below asking etc

brony james (k3vin k.), Sunday, 14 September 2025 18:13 (eight months ago)

I think I must just live in a particularly heated market.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 14 September 2025 18:40 (eight months ago)

We sold our house in LA at list price in June in about 3 1/2 weeks, and everyone I tell that to is shocked.

omar little, Sunday, 14 September 2025 19:35 (eight months ago)

15 million is a lot for that, I think as far as the location goes it’s iconic in a Lynch sense but it’s not necessarily the most sought after area either. Not just bc these days people are more likely to reflect on the possibility of a fire sweeping through the hills, but also it’s just not the best use of 15 million if you’re lucky enough to have it. Being Hollywood adjacent is not the lure that a lot of people might imagine it to be, not in 2025 anyway.

omar little, Sunday, 14 September 2025 19:40 (eight months ago)

The fact that it's a "compound" with 3 houses may give a "sum is worth more than the parts" aspect to some buyers, but a famous ex-owner doesn't give that much of a boost.

With estate sale auction items you can put them on the wall/bookshelf/counter/music room without upending your life by moving.

nickn, Sunday, 14 September 2025 19:44 (eight months ago)

Apparently the main building was designed by Lloyd Wright. Son of Frank Lloyd Wright. Which raises the question of whether Frank Lloyd Wright's grandson was just called Wright. But alas no, he was Eric Lloyd Wright.

There's a bunch of photos of the place from when Lynch was alive, and they seem to have tarted it up since he's left. In particular the exterior doesn't look great when it's damp:
https://www.reddit.com/r/davidlynch/comments/11g9dkx/david_lynchs_la/

The screening and editing rooms are interesting. I wonder if they still have the equipment, or if it was auctioned off? It raises the question of whether he used the screening room to have final say on the picture quality of his films, or if it was just for fun. It's a pretty substantial room:
https://i.redd.it/snxgjakgtrof1.png

Ashley Pomeroy, Sunday, 14 September 2025 20:02 (eight months ago)

There's a bunch of photos of the place from when Lynch was alive, and they seem to have tarted it up since he's left. In particular the exterior doesn't look great when it's damp:

I'm not a structural engineer or anything, but is it a cause for concern over the long run when water reveals so many cracks in the cement?

birdistheword, Sunday, 14 September 2025 20:18 (eight months ago)

Nm, found this: https://www.a1concrete.com/concrete-repair-learning-center/concrete-crack-types

birdistheword, Sunday, 14 September 2025 20:21 (eight months ago)

three weeks pass...

Police arrested an asshole believed responsible for the Palisades fire. Besides the mass destruction he caused, one of my first reactions was "this is the asshole that killed David Lynch." Granted, Lynch had a serious health problem, but regardless, fuck this guy.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 8 October 2025 21:41 (eight months ago)

two months pass...

A video (11.5 min) of the guy who bought the Parker Fly guitar from the auction. Maybe only of interest to guitar people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbJZR_l7Cak

nickn, Wednesday, 31 December 2025 19:59 (five months ago)

Those guitars are so ridiculous except for who they're great for (Belew, Joni).

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 December 2025 20:03 (five months ago)

four months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB_Fw5MKUoU

Good 15 minute doc about Lynch's houses

Hideous Lump, Saturday, 9 May 2026 01:06 (one month ago)

Yeah that was really interesting

The Yellow Kid, Saturday, 9 May 2026 02:07 (one month ago)

I always knew about Ebert's infamous "Blue Velvet" pan, but I had no idea he didn't dig "The Elephant Man," either.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 04:05 (four weeks ago)

two weeks pass...

Hadn't seen "The Straight Story" in ages, what a miracle that movie is.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 June 2026 02:32 (one week ago)

Truly

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 June 2026 04:28 (one week ago)

agreed

Ste, Tuesday, 2 June 2026 08:52 (one week ago)

is there a better screen performance than harry dean stanton's in this?

you can find chort in the clyteum (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 2 June 2026 09:03 (one week ago)

Btw, I have the StudioCanal 4k (looks great) and it starts off with a disclaimer, sort of like what they put in front of Tom & Jerry cartoons or certain animated shorts. "It was a different time and this movie may insensitively depict those times," something like that, though a little longer and better written. I was a little surprised, because the movie is rated G, and while not for kids, per se, it's famous for being generally inoffensive. So having not seen it in so long, I kept an eye out for what possibly got flagged, and the only thing I could imagine is Sissy Spacek's performance. She has a slight stutter, and at one point is described as "a little slow." That's the best I could come up with.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 June 2026 12:04 (one week ago)

Might be there as a pre-emptive measure in case some fraudster tries to sue for 'emotional trauma' or the like

where's ken morse when you need him (Matt #2), Tuesday, 2 June 2026 12:27 (one week ago)

Saw it when it came out so had no knowledge of HDS's cameo, when he appeared onscreen a golden glow of happiness suffused me

where's ken morse when you need him (Matt #2), Tuesday, 2 June 2026 12:29 (one week ago)

HDS interviewed Madonna, I just discovered:

https://www.interviewmagazine.com/music/madonna-harry-dean-stanton-interview

Cow_Art, Tuesday, 2 June 2026 12:36 (one week ago)

Spacek is wonderful opposite Farnsworth; she deserved a nomination just for the scene where she looks out the rain-splashed window.

boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 June 2026 12:40 (one week ago)

It's great that Lynch was able to bring in Spacek, who helped fund Eraserhead.

Cow_Art, Tuesday, 2 June 2026 12:42 (one week ago)

FWIW, about 01:13:30 into this, there's a pretty amusing description of what it's like to be randomly assigned to a table with David Lynch and Albert Maysles. The posts mentioning Sissy Spacek reminded me of this. (It'll make sense when you hear the anecdote.)

birdistheword, Tuesday, 2 June 2026 23:10 (one week ago)

Hilarious that I bought the blu-ray in great anticipation of rewatching, and before I could do so there's a 4K release. Oh well. I remind myself I live in an incredible era when near-cinema-level film experience at home costs less than a couple of cinema tickets.

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 2 June 2026 23:12 (one week ago)

xp Not loading for some reason, but at one point, the guy (who does a great David Lynch impression) recalls Lynch spotting Spacek in the distance and repeating out loud "Sissy Spacek! Sissy Spacek!"

birdistheword, Tuesday, 2 June 2026 23:12 (one week ago)

Ah, even better, it's on Spotify - here's the direct link

birdistheword, Tuesday, 2 June 2026 23:15 (one week ago)

Okay that is truly awesome, thanks

Dr. Winston O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 2 June 2026 23:44 (one week ago)

I sometimes imitate Lynch talking about Naomi Watts but I've got nothing on that guy.

Dr. Winston O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 3 June 2026 00:08 (one week ago)

and of course Spacek's husband Jack Fisk is one of the all-time great production designers.

boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 June 2026 09:44 (one week ago)

He directed her and Kevin Kline in the movie Violets Are Blue which I remember as being pretty good.

Dr. Winston O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 3 June 2026 10:31 (one week ago)

Fisk was the man in the planet in Eraserhead. Lynch’s… unorthodox makeup techniques were miserable for him.

Lynch and Fisk knew each other since they were kids and they lived together for a while, they were both painters.

Cow_Art, Wednesday, 3 June 2026 11:45 (one week ago)


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