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okay, it's another punctuation thread!

"Once," Professor Cardamom said, "once of our students collected a mutant snail darter that, at the time, was the most massive ever captured (it weighed 2.4 lbs)"

where does the period go.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 25 September 2005 07:26 (twenty years ago)

(never mind the incongruity of using a decimalled imperial weight, and pay no attention to the heavy-handed invasion of commentary into someone's sovereign quote)

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 25 September 2005 07:28 (twenty years ago)

"...(it weighed 2.4lbs)."

estela (estela), Sunday, 25 September 2005 07:33 (twenty years ago)

)."

Although, personally, I'd replace the brackets with a semicolon (or maybe a period depending on emphasis).

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Sunday, 25 September 2005 07:33 (twenty years ago)

forest pines otm.

the happy smile patrol (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 25 September 2005 08:06 (twenty years ago)

but i'd replace the semicolon with an em-dash.

the happy smile patrol (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 25 September 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

Me too - if its part of a spoken sentence an em-dash would read better than semis or brackets I think. Does this boil down to taste tho, or are there set rules? I never got a sense of concrete rules beyond "follow the style sheet" when I did editing.

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 25 September 2005 09:15 (twenty years ago)

If the phrase in parentheses is an authorial interjection and not part of quoted speech, it should be in square brackets: [].

ctrl-s, Sunday, 25 September 2005 09:52 (twenty years ago)

Or, better, not inside the quotation marks at all.

ctrl-s, Sunday, 25 September 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)

"Once," Professor Cardamom said, "once of our students collected a mutant snail darter that, at the time, was the most massive ever captured. (It weighed 2.4 lbs.)"

M. V. (M.V.), Sunday, 25 September 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)

Oops. Missed the part about commentary vs. parenthetical aside.
So "(it weighed 2.4 lbs)" is not Prof. C's utterance? Brackets are the right choice, then.

Also, italicize and precede with pretentious "n.b." The "n.b." should also be italicized and possibly followed by a dash. However, it should not be enclosed in quotation marks, as I have done.

Finally, remember: square brackets, except for the italicization, which requires them pointy ones and an "i" (but not actually in quotations) and some more pointy ones and there's a backslash goes in there, too, somewhere.

At your service; [as always]/

M. V. (M.V.), Sunday, 25 September 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

if the prof didn't say the bracketed bit, it wouldn't be inside the inverted commas

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 25 September 2005 11:28 (twenty years ago)

look at rjg, talking about commas.

cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 25 September 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

like this, tracer - and you owe me a mail:

"Once," Professor Cardamom said, "one of our students collected a mutant snail darter that - at the time - was the most massive ever captured" [it weighed 2.4 lbs].

suzy (suzy), Sunday, 25 September 2005 11:40 (twenty years ago)

No. Sorry, but I'm incapable of letting this slide.

Either:

"Once," Professor Cardamom said, "one of our students collected a mutant snail darter that -- at the time -- was the most massive ever captured [it weighed 2.4 lbs]."

or, much better, something like:

"Once," Professor Cardamom said, "one of our students collected a mutant snail darter that -- at the time -- was the most massive ever captured." The mutant darter, we learned, had weighed 2.4 pounds.

Square brackets indicate that the material that they enclose is interjected.

ctrl-s, Sunday, 25 September 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)

hi suzy! check your email.

I have heard that parens are used to add information to a quote, and brackets are used when you are replacing or adding words strictly for clarity. Anybody else heard this one, or have I got it wrong?

Ctrl-s, just assume it needs to be interjected, like wot I said up at the top.

The thing that kills me here is that "lbs." is an abbreviation, and it seems that simply by the unhappy consequence of being shoved up against a quotation mark, a bracket and the end of a sentence, it loses its period!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 25 September 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

I was taught that in quoted text, square brackets should be used for any text that wasn't part of the original.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Sunday, 25 September 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

FP, that's what I was taught too, but I get all kinds of grief when I edit something thata way. Bar-room brawling almost over parens v. square brackets. WTF?!?!?


Ahhh, style v. rules whacha gonna do?

Wiggy (Wiggy), Sunday, 25 September 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)


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