Are there any medically-diagnosable conditions that derive from psychoanalytical concepts?

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Freud and his followers don't seem a big part of contemporary psychology and psychiatry. But do any diagnosable conditions (according to the AMA) derive from Freudian concepts? So far as I know "neurosis" (for example) is not actually a diagnosable condition (correct me if I'm wrong). "Obsession" and "compulsion" were ideas that Freud used, but did not originate. Etc.

Certainly Freudian concepts have made their way into folk psychology and I suppose that psychiatric conditions are often referred to in general conversation by roughly analogous Freudian concepts. But do they actually sit on the books?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 8 December 2005 03:17 (twenty years ago)

cocaine addiction

― latebloomer: The Corridor (Yes, The Corridor) (latebloomer), Thursday, 8 December 2005 03:19 (twenty years ago)

afaik, neurosis is still being used as a label for a type of psych condition. cf psychosis.

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 December 2005 03:57 (twenty years ago)

I imagine that if they knew what they were looking for and the signs were clearly visible, it wouldn't be too difficult to diagnose a patient as having an Oedipal Complex.

And wouldn't you know it, Paxil works for that, now, too!

― ath (ath), Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:00 (twenty years ago)

it wouldn't be too difficult to diagnose a patient as having an Oedipal Complex.

yes but i highly doubt this is in the AMA book or similar books in other countries.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:02 (twenty years ago)

Oedipus eh? He was a motherfucker.

― moley (moley), Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:06 (twenty years ago)

a little googling shows that DSM know longer uses the term 'neurosis'.

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:08 (twenty years ago)

I believe 'disorder' is the fashionable word right now. Now doubt this will change - DSM is always changing.

― moley (moley), Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:14 (twenty years ago)

about neurosis:
So since 1980,when the DSM-III was first published, all Freudian and psycho-analytical concepts were considered un-scientific and removed from the manual. Thesw two things are irreconcilable, because the DSM states that a disorder/condition has to be scientifically determinable, and Freudian concepts aren't, according to the APA

― Eva van Rein (Gaia1981), Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:15 (twenty years ago)

huh? a part of my sentence is missing! here it is again: about neurosis: because of these controversial psycho-analytical meaning, the notion of neurosis was considered a-theoretical, and it was dismissed from the DSM-III and following editions

― Eva van Rein (Gaia1981), Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:17 (twenty years ago)

so basically there's a lot of clinical "disorders" in the DSM that are Freudian-based/influenced, but the APA wants to sever all those ties, or at least give the appearance of having done so.

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:18 (twenty years ago)

basically, yes. And many therapists still use psycho-analytical insights/techniques in their treatment, so it doesn't change much, anyway.

― Eva van Rein (Gaia1981), Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:20 (twenty years ago)

something like OCD could be considered to derive from psychoanalytical concepts, though obv there's a lot of tweaking, discarding, and adding on to Freud's original ideas.

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:21 (twenty years ago)

Assholism.

― Bunch of them, Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:21 (twenty years ago)

There are still a few disorders in the DSM that are held in suspicion by pretty much everyone except the same flakey people who still take psychoanalysis seriously (as a therapeutic technique that is; as a theoretical branching it's still pretty cool right). Mainly Dissociative Identity Disorder, I think.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:27 (twenty years ago)

hmm, Lacanian Psychoanalytical diagnosis is divided in the categories: Perversion, Psychosis and Neurosis, which has the subcategories Hysteria, Obsession and Phobia. So that's a lot of overlap with standard diagnostics

― Eva van Rein (Gaia1981), Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:31 (twenty years ago)

i thought freudian psychoanalysis was a therapy, not a diagnostic.

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:32 (twenty years ago)

xpost: diagnosis is not the basis of therapy, like it is in other forms of psychological treatment, but Freud still distinguishes between psychological structures and their primary mechanism characters

― Eva van Rein (Gaia1981), Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:37 (twenty years ago)

Come on. Freud was, like, a hundred years ago! Surely he has no relevance today. At least I'm hoping he doesn't.

― patrick bateman (mickeygraft), Thursday, 8 December 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

Why is this so important again?

― patrick bateman (mickeygraft), Thursday, 8 December 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

you know those knives you like tp play with....well, think about it, PB.

― latebloomer: The Corridor (Yes, The Corridor) (latebloomer), Thursday, 8 December 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

knives=phallic symbol, also a weapon. repressed violent rape urge?

― comrade parker, Thursday, 8 December 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

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