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Inspired by Dan's mystery hyphen in non-chalantly on the poor customer service thread. Is is possible to be chalant? WHat are your other favourite negations of words which don't actually exist (poss any more).

Pete, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'd like to see the word "ruth" resurrected ie. the opposite of ruthless. Based on the biblical character "Ruth" who represents mercy and kindness.

Trevor, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

gormless was alwyas my favourite one. i've never come across an instance of gormfulness yet!

katie, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

including the case of my typing, "alwyas" pah.

katie, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

There is an example of this on the link I posted when the Darts thread mysteriously wandered into the realms of atagonyms (words which have diametrically opposed meanings). PG Wodehouse, who had a flair for this kind of thing, invented the word "gruntled" as the opposite of disgruntled. HOWEVER, gruntled already existed as an olde Anglo-Saxon word (derived from the noise that pigs make) meaning pretty much the opposite of what Wodehouse imagined. antagonyms

Edna Welthorpe, Mrs, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

do not use materials which are flammable — it is dangerous: ONLY USE MATERIALS WHICH SAY 'HIGHLY INFLAMMABLE'!!

mark s, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Er..... nonce? Nonagon? You don't see many ces or agons around do you?

Emma, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

But inflammable means "can be inflamed" ie set alight. The opposite is non-inflammable. Flammable is nonsense invented because people got confused by inflammable.

Sam, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

(Sorry, completely tangential: I was just poking around in that Atlantic word fugitives link and found the following Q which is both urgent and key:

Is there a female version of the term "phallic symbol"? It seems that we often refer to things that resemble the male anatomy as "phallic," but there doesn't appear to be a word for things that resemble the female anatomy.)

Edna Welthorpe, Mrs, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

flammable is not nonsense as such. check with the alt.usage.english FAQ

Alan Trewartha, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i think that "gutting" should mean adding guts not removing them.

Alan Trewartha, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well of course Emma in nonagon (a word generally not used an awful lot) the prefix is "nona" - to mean nine. (cf Polygon).

Pete, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

in the US they don't hyphenate much, so you get the reverse where "non-" and "co-" seem to make new words like "nonnative" (looks like some obscure grammatical term) and "coworker" (pronounced cow-acker).

Alan Trewartha, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Seven of Nona!

Andrew L, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah well it still starts with the letters non Mr Show Off Maths Boy.

Emma, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You were being deliberatly provocative, dim-witted linguist girl.

Pete, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

flammable fr. latin flammare "often used officially to avoid ambiguity of inflammable" [OED]

so there mr sam so-called chirombo3000!!!

mark s, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

is there such a thing as a sequitur? because it's half past one and i am hungry

Jeff W, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

isn't it what you prune roses with?

chris, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well I'm not sure if a non-sequiteur is diametrically opposite to a think which cuts roses, but it certainly isn't said pruning device so I guess it works on a basic level of correctness.

Pete, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I meant "it's considered nonsense by poncey prescriptive grammarians thank goodness I'm not one of them phew".

Obviously.

Sam, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That reminds me of the story about the one time Peter Cook's wit failed him. He went into a hardware shop and said "Secateurs?" and the assistant said "Non sequitur." PC walked away giggling.

Sam, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

My favorite backformation is the mono-kini. Which implies that the reason a bi-kini is called such is because there are 2 pieces, when in actuality it was named after the marshallese island where nuclear tests were conducted. I think the first bikini was actually called Le Atom - because it was so explosive on the eyes?!

marianna, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I am confused. When did Dave Popshots become me? I already have enough troubling being Ned!

Dan Perry, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The three faces of Dan.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I also have enough trouble using the word "trouble" in a sentence, apparently.

Dan, Dave, and Ned star in: THE MUSIC GEEK HAS THREE FACES, AND ONE OF THEM IS BLACK.

Dan Perry, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"coworker" (pronounced cow-acker)

I'm confused, although I'm guessing this may be a joke. Coworker isn't pronounced that way, at least not here in the States.

Sean, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Scott Adams encourages people to pronounce it "cow-ORker".

Dan Perry, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

THE MUSIC GEEK HAS THREE FACES, AND ONE OF THEM IS BLACK

Sign me up!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I saw the word "vulvic" used as the female equivalent to "phallic" in an article on Georgia O'Keefe's paintings.

nickn, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I want to decorate my house entirely with vulvic symbols.

electric sound of jim, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Does salubrious ever get used without a negative?

Graham, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Good point Graham, well made. Not in my experience, no.

N., Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

On Friday we came up with Muffic - which could then easily be turned into the fantastic description Terrmuffic!! (as in Switchblade Sisters on Friday Night was Terrmuffic!!)

Pete, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Salubrious is used all the time, though often when in the throes of...sarcasm.

suzy, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ungainly?

alext, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

though often when in the throes of...sarcasm.

Well exactly, there's your negative.

N., Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I also use salubrious when talking about salubrious areas of London, eg. Kensington.

suzy, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Can I be the black one? I'm always the Honky, and I suck at being a Honky.

(I guess I should be happy I wasn't confused with Jess. AGAIN.)

David Raposa, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)


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