Arnaud Desplechin's "Kings & Queen" – Classic or Dud?

Weird. I had the opposite impression. It's been nearly a year since I saw it, but I remember a lot of scenes being extra spry and that there were a lot more of them than in most movies.

I loved it, but my love is sort of guarded with this movie. I don't like talking about it with people. I'm much more comfortable enthusing about Cannibal Holocaust and Dave Chappelle's Block Party and such.

did anyone see "esther kahn"? sort of his film maudit i guess. well no that was "leo en jouant 'la compagnie des hommes'" which i saw in paris and which i found to be completely awful. but anyway "esther kahn" i thought was interesting but i don't remember it much now, except that ian holm was good and summer phoenix was sort of bleh.

You could be right.

It's either age or I see too many movies, but I don't even remember Deneuve being in K&Q!

Esther Kahn: having a terrible actress play a terrible actress = terrible film.

A private, deliciously illicit pleasure?

arnaud desplechin season at mine

u r all invited

got esther kahn, un conte noel and kings & queen showing

bring own popcorn pls

Those are the three I've already seen. Should probably get around to My Sex Life one of these days.

i haven't finished watching 'kings and queen' on the netflix yet, this reminds me i have to do that. haven't seen 'esther kahn' but will get to that next, i think.

"leo en jouant 'la compagnie des hommes'"
^^^ i liked this but maybe had a lot to do with sami bouajila looking very pretty in it

iirc i liked this, but 'a christmas tale', nooooo. it's kind of the french 'peter's friends' + awful use of music.

to be fair i ejected after 55min.

Man, I loved this movie.

And A Christmas Tale, for that matter.

ACT was attenuated in spots, but if anything it's more emotionally acute than KAQ (that first conversation b/w Deneuve and Amalric).

I know it's 2008, etc, but ACT didn't play in South Florida until February, so I may include it in a top twenty.

iirc i liked this, but 'a christmas tale', nooooo. it's kind of the french 'peter's friends' + awful use of music.

lol i rewatched "a christmas tale" last nite and was thinking it was kinda wes anderson w/better music or really i guess grown-up wes anderson. havent seen peters friends so i dont get the ref but im (stupidly?) surprised u didnt like this~~~

i think its really, really good fwiw and aside from any 'deeper' or 'thoughtful' reasons the entire aesthetic and experience is like designed to be deeply pleasing to me. the ppl and the clothes and the way they wear their clothes and how they talk to and touch each other and the house and the way the house is decorated and the records they play and the movies they watch and the sprawling pleasant place - would live itw.

i do think the movie and most of the characters are emotionally closed-off theyre playing games w/us the movie is playing games w/us too. but i like its ability to give and take pleasure - revel in 'cleverness' and 'aesthetics'.

theres a shot were simon and sylvia are in the car talking and he cuts to cars exterior and u can see theyve been there a while - the windshield is lightly coated w/falling snow - and we can only here them talking. and then syliva moves to the backseat and bumps the wipers and the snow is brushed away (so cleanly!) and theyre visible to us again and its kinda a false and unnecessary moment but i still liked it a lot

theres stuff i still havent really unraveled either like the part w/ the grandpa reading nietzsche (?) to elizabeth (who is ~amazing~) and then theres the car window sequence. i have an 'idea' but idk

I liked A Christmas Tale watching the family dynamic in Summer Hours made the Desplechin movie look overwrought.

thought arnie was indulging the heck out of his actors in this.

*but watching

the whole movie was p indulgent (and overwrought!) - dont really think thats a bad thing

iirc summer hours kinda sucked

^^ suggest ban

yep.

emmanuelle devos is the tits

i thought christmas tale broke a lot of storytelling rules but did it in a way that made me love it... the scene at the end with the coin flipping... the act of which is never set up earlier in the film at all... but it doesn't seem to matter. that was a great moment.

The chat outside between Deneuve and Amalric was superb.

the coin-flipping is kinda set-up by (or least fits in to) the talk abt gambling/game-playing that happens throughout

idk summer hours looked and felt kinda shabby

ya i guess, it just seemed to come sort of pre-packaged in that scene... in a good way tho

idk summer hours looked and felt kinda shabby

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well duh it's about old furniture

and old people

h8 old stuff ---------> ˇsbˇ

Hey, I'm old, and on some mornings I look and smell like a footrest.

suggérer interdiction

"idk summer hours looked and felt kinda shabby"

the hell

haha dont make me defend the stupid shit i post on ilx. i havent seen summer hours in like a year+ but im p sick and have not much to do but sit around and watch movies so ill rewatch it tonite if i can

just cuz i realize u were all deeply concerned abt this

I'll bring some chicken soup.

The chat outside between Deneuve and Amalric was superb.

rewatched kings and queen and their scenes were sum of my favorites in that

weird movie

v.rad tho

the first half or so of this was good, amalric on form and a sort of fractious energy that dissipated long before the end

movie is pretty devastating. i know i liked it, not sure what it is I liked about it. it's definitely stuck w/ me. Loved A Christmas Tale, too. And Summer Hours! French families. They crazy.

The family in Summer Hours is much more approachable, Also: I envy the French, and their insouciance about smoking (heavily) indoors.

smoking indoors, enormous homes stuffed with books and art. c'est la vie. I'd say that those portrayals of French family life are totally unrealistic, but my French cousins' grandparents have a house pretty similar to those depicted in Christmas Tale and Summer Hours. I think I need to move in with them some day.

haha i nvr did get around 2 rewatching summer hours

smoking indoors, enormous homes stuffed with books and art. c'est la vie. I'd say that those portrayals of French family life are totally unrealistic, but my French cousins' grandparents have a house pretty similar to those depicted in Christmas Tale and Summer Hours. I think I need to move in with them some day

saw maren ade's everyone else recently & man srsly - umc europeans living beautifully framed lives alla fukken time.

almaric talken 2 the kid @ the museum is somethin i reflect on like weekly fwiw - love this movie

Really liked the scene between Nora's son and Ismael at the end of this. Tough watch leading up to it but it totally needs the concentration I can only get in a cinema.

finally watched this, yea prob loses something viewing @ home, but is good. like its fwd momentum in the face of all messy family dynamics a lot, characters are v well drawn. i should prob watch 'a christmas tale' sometime

the Criterion version of A Christmas Tale has a perfect freeze frame of Deneuve.

NYC retro in advance of the new one

http://www.filmlinc.org/series/golden-days-the-films-of-arnaud-desplechin/#films

How was Jimmy P? I remember Richard Brody was high on it (interpret that as you please).

I didn't much like it, kind of half-baked.

since My Sex Life and others are in new DCPs in this series, i assume Blurays are coming

A Christmas Tale has become a comfort film.

“La Sentinelle” is weird. Borgesian even. Rosenbaum supposedly compared it to “Paris nous appartient” and I can get with that.

A Christmas Tale has become a comfort film.

It started as one.

https://thefilmstage.com/arnaud-desplechin-has-adapted-philip-roths-deception-with-lea-seydoux/

ooooh