The grimmest fucking places on earth: a picture thread.

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Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:44 (twenty years ago)

http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2005/july/darfur/helicopter600.jpg

Place: Darfur Region, The Sudan

Reasons Why: Arab vs. Non-Arab conflict supported by government; genocide; displaced persons; spillover into Chad.

Quote: Human Rights Watch: Between 2003 and 2005, the Sudanese government and the Janjaweed militias burned and destroyed hundreds of rural villages, killed tens of thousands of people and raped and assaulted thousands of women and girls. The government's campaign forced more than two million Darfurians from their homes.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 18 March 2006 17:14 (twenty years ago)

http://www.countycourthouses.com/sd/buffalo.jpg

Place: Buffalo County, South Dakota

Reason Why: After the U.S.-Dakota War of 1862 and the subsequent mass execution (America's largest), some Dakota where forced to the Crow Creek Indian Reservation, located here; with a per capita income of $5,213, the poorest county in the United States (Marin in CA is the richest at $44,962); unemployment is at 70%.

Quote: Minnesota Public Radio: "Census figures show 21 percent of the homes in Fort Thompson don't have a kitchen or plumbing. 'There are some homes that I know that may not have running water. But more of what I see is lack of housing, multiple family households - sometimes having 15 or close to 20 people in a home,' says Smith."

Minnesota Public Radio: "The reservation is almost $35 million in debt. Ashley says he's found many examples of wasteful, possibly fraudulent, spending. He says in one case, the tribal council paid off the gambling debt of one of its members."

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 18 March 2006 17:49 (twenty years ago)

http://www.melbournefilmfestival.com.au/filmimgs/liberia.jpg

Place: Liberia

Reason Why: Massive civil war throught 1990s that left a quarter million people dead and the capital, Monrovia, without electricity or drinking water, which is still lacks today. Liberia has the highest unemployment rate -- 85% -- in the world, and it is overrun with guns.

Quote: Eric Margolis: "The US dollar was Liberia's currency; English the language of its elite. Liberia became a virtual American colony in West Africa. The economy of this rubber republic depended on the Firestone Company. CIA and NSA ran major stations in Monrovia. Tiny Liberia became the largest recipient of US aid in Africa. ... [But] Liberia's snoozy colonial status ended abruptly when Sgt. Doe seized power in 1980. He executed the entire government on Monrovia's beach. ... Master Sergeant Samuel K. Doe was overthrown in 1990. Doe, an illiterate and remarkably murderous thug, enjoyed personally shooting or bayonetting political enemies and cabinet ministers. He was captured by rebels led by a certain Prince Johnson. who forced Doe to eat his own ears and genitals. His captors then cut Doe up into bit-sized chunks and ate him with pepper sauce."

Reuters: The conflict ended two years ago, but few people have jobs. On the streets of Monrovia, young girls sell their bodies for less than a dollar a time to earn money to go to school.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 18 March 2006 20:06 (twenty years ago)

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gbx (skowly), Saturday, 18 March 2006 20:17 (twenty years ago)

He was captured by rebels led by a certain Prince Johnson. who forced Doe to eat his own ears and genitals. His captors then cut Doe up into bit-sized chunks and ate him with pepper sauce."

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s/c johnson wax (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 18 March 2006 21:25 (twenty years ago)

somebody has to ask: michael, what inspires you to start a thread like this

nervous (cochere), Saturday, 18 March 2006 21:45 (twenty years ago)

A Master Sergeant seizing power might be a record (where did all the generals go?), and a lesson - don't fuck with the non-comms.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Saturday, 18 March 2006 21:50 (twenty years ago)

You would think that a guy who got rich from that "Mother-In-Law" song wouldn't end up having to eat his own genitals.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Saturday, 18 March 2006 22:50 (twenty years ago)

(The long story: I read a magazine story back in 1988 about the "traveling salesman problem" and the development of a mathematical algorithim that finds the optimal round-trip path that goes through any set of given locations. The magazine cited that two mathematicians had found the optimal path for 666 world locations, a new milestone. On the beguiling map accompanying the article, the city that came after the North Pole (if you're going roughly West-East) was Norilsk, and looking up the city on Wikipedia today made me think, wow, that is one fucking grim city. This thread is sort of the unpleasant cousin of the glorious Famous Places that No Longer Exist thread.)

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 18 March 2006 22:58 (twenty years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/34/104287641_e1d3dd80fa.jpg?v=0

Place: S-21/Tuol Sleng Museum in Phnom Penh, Cambodia

Reasons Why: Former Khmer Rouge prison; now museum memorializing the Cambodian genocide where approximately 1.5 million died; former home of a now-dismantled map of Cambodia made of three hundred skulls.

Quote: From "The Security of Regulation": "6. While getting lashes or electrification you must not cry at all."

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 19 March 2006 05:34 (twenty years ago)

I guess by grimey you mean evil. The great evil of human suffering. Yet, why would God make us suffer so? OH, the questions to ask!

Mr Jones (Mr Jones), Sunday, 19 March 2006 07:08 (twenty years ago)

Mike I knew there would be some story like that behind your unearthing of Norilsk, I just didn't know how awesome it would be! I'm still trying to even understand the concept of the "traveling salesman problem." I wonder if they take into account Ryanair.

Master Sergeant Samuel K. Doe of Liberia, the one who ended up as goulash, was, it hardly needs to be said, the recipient of a half billion dollars of US arms and training.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 19 March 2006 08:56 (twenty years ago)

the ossuary at Kutna Hora is pretty unbelievably grim. visually if nothing else.

OSSUARY IN KUTNÁ HORA
A cistercian monastery was founded near here in the year 1142. One of the principal tasks of the monks was the cultivation of the grounds and lands around the monastery. In 1278 King Otakar II of Bohemia sent Henry, the abbot of Sedlec , on a diplomatic mission to the Holy Land. When leaving Jerusalem Henry took with him a handful of earth from Golgotha which he sprinkled over the cemetery of Sedlec monastery, consequently the cemetery became famous, not only in Bohemia but also throughout Central Europe and many wealthy people desired to be buried here.The burial ground was enlarged during the epidemics of plague in the 14 th century (e.g.in 1318 about 30 000 people were buried here) and also during the Hussite wars in first quarter of the 15 th. century.

After 1400 one of the abbots had a church of All -Saints erected in Gothic style in the middle of the cemetery and under it a chapel destined for the deposition of bones from abolished graves, a task which was begun by a half blind Cistercian monk after the year 1511. The charnel-house was remodelled in Czech Baroque style between 1703 - I710 by the famous Czech architect, of the Italian origin ,Jan Blažej SANTIM-Aichl. The present arrangement of the bones dates from 1870 and is the work of a Czech wood-carver, František RINT (you can see his name, put together from bones, on the right-hand wall over the last bench).
Our ossuary contains the remains of about 40 000 people. The largest collections of bones are arranged in the form of bells in the four corners of the chapel.

http://images.google.ca/images?svnum=100&hl=en&lr=&newwindow=1&safe=off&q=ossuary+Kutna+Hora

Kim (Kim), Sunday, 19 March 2006 15:54 (twenty years ago)

Place: Unit 731, Manchukuo, China

Reasons: Pathogen and freezing experiments were the kindest experiments practiced by Unit 731. Its Nazi counterpart was almost humane compared to it. The Nazis engaged in mainly high altitude/low pressure testing, freezing, and some biowar tests. The Japanese Unit 731 committed far worse atrocities, not excluding the areas that the Nazis researched in, but they also dissected and vivisected patients while they were still alive, without anesthetic for "research" purposes. They performed this not only on Chinese peasants but also American and Russian POW's.
These experiments were very well-documented, and yet the Americans exchanged the information for the freedom of the doctors, who practiced their grisly "art" with pleasure. They infected prisoners with various diseases then proceeded to carve them open while still alive to see the results. There are even photographs of them doing this. Over 3000 people were killed by Unit 731 alone in medical experiments.

In addition to this, Unit 731 also performed field tests of both biological and conventional weapons. They tested their weapons on live prisoners after letting them loose in a field. They also used planes to drop plague and other diseases all over China, in areas that have already been conquered by the Japanese. Historians estimate that around 200,000 Chinese died in these experiments.

And that's not all. Rookie doctors practiced surgery on live patients, then killed them afterwards. A favorite of these "doctors" was raping Chinese girls then dissecting them alive later to see the development of the fetus. They even photographed themselves doing this and kept it in their wallets. Unit 731 attempted a final scheme, codenamed "Cherry Blossoms at Night", in 1945 to launch plague at California. The plan was abandoned when Japan surrendered. They then used dynamite to blow up all the evidence.

Quote: "Vivisection should be done under normal circumstances. If we'd used anesthesia, that might have affected the body organs and blood vessels that we were examining. So we couldn't have used anesthetic."

The site is now a small, underfunded memorial museum

paulhw (paulhw), Sunday, 19 March 2006 18:48 (twenty years ago)

Oops:

http://people.bu.edu/wwildman/WeirdWildWeb/courses/thth/projects/thth_projects_2003_parkeun/thth_p3.jpg

paulhw (paulhw), Sunday, 19 March 2006 18:51 (twenty years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731: In 2005, Professor Keiichi Tsuneishi of Kanagawa University found, in the U.S. National Archives, declassified documents showing that the U.S. Government had purchased information gleaned from Unit 731's experiments. The officers in charge of Unit 731 were persuaded to provide the results with money, gifts, entertainment and a waiver of war crimes charges. The motivation for the purchase was the enhancement of the U.S.'s own biological warfare program, itself a part of the arms race with the Soviet Union.

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Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 19 March 2006 19:08 (twenty years ago)

Hardly surprising.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 19 March 2006 19:15 (twenty years ago)

You can be alive for any number of decades and a lightning bolt during a thunderstorm can still come as a shock, if you know what I mean.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 19 March 2006 19:23 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, true. But this decade has done a great job at reminding me of how miserable this planet can get, not that the last few ones have been any better.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 19 March 2006 19:24 (twenty years ago)

http://www.spaceschool.com/aiss/images/2005/woomera%20detention.jpg

Place: Woomera Immigration Reception and Processing centre, AKA Woomera Detention Centre (no longer exists)

Reasons:
A prisonlike babrbed wire hell in the middle of the South Australian desert where refugees arriving "illegally" were locked away, 1500 in a 400-capacity facility.

From Wikipedia:

In June 2000 there were two days of protests. Approximately 480 detainees broke out and walked into the township.

In August 2000 there were three days of riots and fires. 60-80 detainees were involved, and tear gas and water cannons were used.

In November 2000 there was a hunger strike involving more than 30 detainees, some of whom were force fed in hospital.

Throughout 2001 there were repeated riots and confrontations between ACM guards and detainees. Water cannons and tear gas were used.

During 2002 there were a number of riots, hunger strikes, and lip-sewing, which included children. In January 2002 over 200 detainees started a hunger strike. Some threatened suicide in violent ways. Some swallowed poisons. Refugee advocates argued that this showed the desperation of detainees. The refugees complained that conditions were harsh, that it took up to three years for their claims to be processed and that processing their claims had been suspended.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 20 March 2006 03:05 (twenty years ago)

I think that ossuary at Kunta Hora looks AWESOME! It appears supremely eerie and spooky and COOL to me. I would LOVE to visit it.

The same cannot be said for any of the other places mentioned here. And yeah, Unit 731 does *not* make me proud to be an American, even though it was supposed to be used for anti-Soviet purposes (but utilizing Chinese help IMO defeats the purpose of that so it's not even like it was anti-communist in spirit). Those poor, poor souls. One can only hope they are among the ones being pampered like royalty up in Heaven.

See Me, Repeat Me (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 20 March 2006 03:25 (twenty years ago)

There was a monastery I visited in Paris on my European Teen Tour From Hell that was decorated in bones like Kunta Hora whose name I can't remember for the life of me.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 20 March 2006 03:41 (twenty years ago)

http://www.theslowlane.com/91tripb/hanford.jpg

Place: Hanford Nuclear Reservation, Washington State

Reason Why: Supposedly the most contaminated site in the Western Hemisphere. Until 1987, a site for the refinement of plutonium for nuclear weapons. Nuclear waste is stored underground tanks, some of which are now leaking, containating soil and ground water and threatening the Columbia River, crucial for farm irrigation, hydroelectric power, and salmon. Clock's ticking.

Hanfordwatch.com: Over the years 70 of the tanks have leaked about one million gallons of waste into the soil. At least some of the leaked tank waste has reached the groundwater, which eventually flows into the river. Estimated time for the tank waste to reach the river is anywhere from 7 to 20 years to a couple generations. How badly it damages the river depends on how much gets there and when.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 20 March 2006 04:09 (twenty years ago)

Jesus, Jaq and RJM may have antennae and extra arms & legs by the time they start their roadtrip later in the year.

pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Monday, 20 March 2006 04:16 (twenty years ago)

With that trio, it'll be one helluva movie.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 20 March 2006 04:22 (twenty years ago)

"Starring Jess as Jesus."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 March 2006 04:35 (twenty years ago)


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