Back to the Future 2 - it's finally here!

UNLESS YOOOU'VE GOT.....POOOWWWWEEERRRRR

http://www.11points.com/Movies/11_Predictions_That_Back_to_the_Future_Part_II_Got_Right

http://www.11points.com/images/backtothefuture2good/hologramjaws.jpg

WHEN WHEN

Slamball??

Video conferencing has to be the number one thing science fiction begged for... we got... and then we all instantly got over.

Haha OTM

Also that hologram Jaws looks like it was done in MS Paint.

yeah and what's with the lipstick?

Also we'll have proper video-calling on mobile handsets by 2015 as well.

I dunno, I still think video-conferencing is pretty awesome when I talk to close friends and family that I haven't seen in a long time who are on the opposite side of the world. Also, I can catch Saints games with my best friend via Skype w/webcam pointed at his TV and all that's missing is the hi-fives.

Wired points out that today is a very important anniversary.

lol

"The incidents leading up to the time machine demise also served as the basis for the award-winning documentary, Back to the Future."

http://www.october212015.com/

Has nobody photoshopped a Star Wars VII poster into the background of BTTF2's "future" scenes?

Movie was pretty terrible though, and I liked the first one.

Also we'll have proper video-calling on mobile handsets by 2015 as well.

― Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, November 5, 2009 11:27 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

BTTF2 almost as good as 1 -- less tightly plotted, but more wild and unfettered. The dropoff comes with 3.

3 is outrageous

2 kind of a drag. krispy glover is missed.

2's dogshit.

so, is 3 better, or definitely worse?

as a kid I found 2 ok and 3 boring but on rewatching both lately I thought 2 was p. fun when Marty is goofing around the town square but the rest is terrible, and 3 was kinda charming

I should note that I am wrong about films tho, always

well, so am I but your 2 sounds like mine so I may give 3 a go when its on.

the back in time documentary has a bit where superfans say the whole series is perfect followed by dan harmon saying, 'c'mon, the sequels suck'

watching 2 again last night i just kept on thinking how, considering biff will murder george mcfly and abuse lorraine for years if he keeps the almanac, doc and marty should just have gone back in time, bought a gun, and gunned him down him in the street. much shorter movie though i guess

the sequels do suck. dan harmon otm

I read somewhere that the reason Biff dissolves in the future is that there's a deleted bit where Lorraine shoots him after finding out about him killing George.

apparently it's slightly different, the shooting scene doesn't exist, and the biff dissolving is a deleted scene

In a scene cut from the final version of Back to the Future Part II, Biff vanishes in 2015 after he returns in the time machine following his delivery of the fateful Grays Sports Almanac to his 1955 counterpart. It is speculated by Kirk Cameron in The Secrets of the Back to the Future Trilogy that Biff is shot and killed by Lorraine "sometime in the mid 1990s" (presumably with the murder weapon used to kill George), thereby erasing his existence come 2015. This was suggested by Robert Zemeckis and Bob Gale, although not mentioned in the film itself. In the finished film, as soon as the 2015 Biff disembarks from the DeLorean, he suddenly clutches his chest in pain and doubles over, breaking off the top of his cane, then staggers away and slumps to the ground behind another parked car — although due to Zemeckis and Gale's suggestion, Biff appeared to have the same symptoms as Marty when he was fading from existence in the first film.

i had never put two and two together there. old biff is definitely in some health trouble on the way out of the delorean, but without more context it could just be that he's old and infirm

IIRC, in the bluray extras where they have the cut scene of Biff dissolving, Gale and Zemeckis explain why it happens. He starts to disappear simply because he changed his own past with the almanac, so the version of him who grew up to become a bitter, grumpy old man doesn't exist anymore.

Then HOW THE FUCK DOES MARTY SURVIVE? OR HIS PARENTS? OR DOC BROWN? OR ....

This movie's got more holes in it than Farscape.

allow me to explain:

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the sequels are fine imo, but they are unavoidably hamstrung by having to follow in the wake of one of one of the few perfect movies ever made

the third one is good until I'm reminded that the train time machine probably counts as steampunk

welp, thx for ruining my second-favourite bttf movie

Then HOW THE FUCK DOES MARTY SURVIVE? OR HIS PARENTS? OR DOC BROWN? OR ....

His parents as seen in the beginning of the first movie don't survive; Marty's tampering with the past replaces them with new versions of themselves. Doc doesn't survive either, he's shot by the Libyans, but again Marty changes the past, so the version of Doc who met Marty in the 1950s wears a bullet-proof vest and survives. The only real paradox is how the original Marty, having changed her parents, also doesn't disappear and get replace by a different version of him, like his brother and sister were. Apparently for whatever reason Marty grows up to be the same regardless of how his parents are. I guess were supposed to think he's a bit of rebel, so whether he's rebelling against loser parents or yuppie parents, he remains the same.

IIRC, in the bluray extras where they have the cut scene of Biff dissolving, Gale and Zemeckis explain why it happens. He starts to disappear simply because he changed his own past with the almanac, so the version of him who grew up to become a bitter, grumpy old man doesn't exist anymore.

― Tuomas, Wednesday, March 20, 2019 11:47 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ah that makes sense.

it's pretty fucked up when you think about how a marty who was raised by the laid-back version of george and lorraine might not have grown up to be kind of lame and have kids in trouble. on his return in the first movie, they seem to find his antics amusing and are generally cool with who he is, but mentally he views himself in conflict

Tuomas, you're telling the correct story as it's laid out by the creators, but it still doesn't make a lick of sense.

I let it out already on this thread, Back to the Future - so I won't go over everything again. But Marty not getting Thanos'd as soon as he steps back out into 1985 - which would be a plot hole anyway - is now doubly nonsensical with this whole Old Man Biff passing out detail.

it'd make the first one confusingly bleak if marty returned to his time only to see his doppleganger happily pulling out of the driveway

Apparently for whatever reason Marty grows up to be the same regardless of how his parents are.

Nature not nurture?

My favorite paradoxical time travel trick is in the Bill & Ted movies, where anything they want to have or to have happen all they have to do is think about, because they know at some point the future versions of them will recognize the past versions of them needed something and just go back in time and set it up to be ready for them.

the curse of coming of age in the mid-80s, perhaps

it'd make the first one confusingly bleak if marty returned to his time only to see his doppleganger happily pulling out of the driveway

― mh, Thursday, March 21, 2019 4:02 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mean, he does kinda see that, right? He sees his doppleganger going back in time at the Lone Pine Mall. But what the hell happens to that doppleganger (who grew up with the rich parents) when he goes back to 1955??

But Marty not getting Thanos'd as soon as he steps back out into 1985 - which would be a plot hole anyway - is now doubly nonsensical with this whole Old Man Biff passing out detail.

it'd make the first one confusingly bleak if marty returned to his time only to see his doppleganger happily pulling out of the driveway

― mh, Thursday, March 21, 2019 4:02 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mean, he does kinda see that, right? He sees his doppleganger going back in time at the Lone Pine Mall. But what the hell happens to that doppleganger (who grew up with the rich parents) when he goes back to 1955??

― Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, March 21, 2019 10:15 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

My theory is that Doc realises he can't send Marty B (the one who grew up with rich parents) to 1955, because then there would two Martys there, Marty B and Marty A (the one who grew up with loser parents), and there might be a risk Marty B would create yet another paradox by messing with the past. But neither can Doc let Marty B remain in 1985, because then there would be two Marties, with only one set of parents, one girlfriend etc. So Doc changes the setting of the DeLorean and sends Marty B far in the future to avoid him causing any paradoxes. Sucks for Marty B, but there aren't any choices Doc could make that wouldn't hurt someone.

Marty B ends up on a Predator Ship.

the rules of time travel in the BttF are remarkably consistent and never really broken.

But the rules of time travel – period! – are broken all over the place! It's like they made a movie where all the vampires can see their reflections!

https://i.imgur.com/ixaw1JP.gif

But the rules of time travel – period!

what's the dewey decimal on that? gonna check it out.

160 or 530, take your pick.

I couldn’t get past 88

god I love 80s movie logic. bonk a person on the head and they'll be out cold. same if they see something that really surprises them. just put 'em on the porch, they'll think it was all a dream! and never wonder how they got there in the first place!! oooh and the bad guy has to be the most insane jerk possible! just kicking puppies up and down the street! and goons! so many goons!! this is not sarcastic I really do love it

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