A Different World Appreciation Thread!

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Yo this show is ruling for me right now! I watch 2 in a row reruns before work every morning!

Crazy...so many eras...early Bonet era....Mid-period Sinbad era....later weirdo period where Jilisa was married to the old army guy and they had the goofy white guy and the guest apprearance by the deaf rapper who rhymed in sign language!

I'm lovin' it (TM)

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 23 March 2006 00:05 (twenty years ago)

i loved this show.

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 23 March 2006 00:19 (twenty years ago)

Lisa Bonet was only on for a year, right?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 23 March 2006 00:20 (twenty years ago)

i was glad when lisa bonet left. such a wet blanket on that show. i think of the show when i am watching clifford the big red dog with rufus cuz cree summer does the voice of clifford's friend cleo.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 23 March 2006 00:23 (twenty years ago)

special bonus points if you own cree's psychedelic funk album. kelis stole everything from her.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 23 March 2006 00:23 (twenty years ago)

Lisa Bonet was only on for a year, right?

I can't remember, this station shows them way wierd out of sequence....not long though.

patti labelle guesting as dwayne's mom=super classic!

right now, we're in the Dwayne/Whitley marriage run-up....dramatic stuff...Dwayne thought he loved Kim for awhile...then she did goofy african themed performance art thing...

...oh and then this AM, Dean Cain was guesting as a racist college kid...him and his buddies got in a fight with Ron Johnson cuz they lost a bet to him on a college football game....then they tried to spell the "n-word" on his car but only got as far as "NI" and tried to tell the cop they were going to spell "NICE" (yeah we're not falling for that doods!)

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 23 March 2006 00:24 (twenty years ago)

cree summer is a godess. so beautiful.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 23 March 2006 00:25 (twenty years ago)

cree summer = swoon

phil d. (Phil D.), Thursday, 23 March 2006 00:26 (twenty years ago)

Kim was cute, too.

But something about the Dwayne/Whitley married period was just weird and off -- Whitley's character started changing in weird ways, like up to that point where she calls the talk show about her marriage (or was it her mother?) and everybody hears it. And then the whole "will he take the job in Japan" bit ... I dunno. Also there's this weird Cosby-stamp where Dwayne and Whitley basically start acting exactly like Cliff and Claire, all the way down to bits where they romance one another to the dusty sound of old-ass r&b, and while there's something cute about that -- they way it seems like they're self-consciously trying to be adult, which is what people in that situation totally do -- it's also just weird. But the set for their little house was pretty pleasant -- wasn't Ron squatting upstairs, or something?

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 23 March 2006 00:31 (twenty years ago)

Worst thing about this show = late-period stuff where the burger-joint guy (Mr. Gaines?) is always fighting with his wife. Also I was never that fond of Mister Clean-Cut Military Dude's mid-period introduction. And beyond the part she was built for -- the freshman/sophomore stuff -- Jalisa was pretty boring.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 23 March 2006 00:34 (twenty years ago)

omg I just now remembered that Marisa Tomei was on this show.

phil d. (Phil D.), Thursday, 23 March 2006 00:45 (twenty years ago)

Kim is awesome....the one episode where she starts fronting Ron Johnson horrid ez listening funk/jazz band and turns into a Diana Ross diva is great!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 23 March 2006 00:47 (twenty years ago)

I thought Dwayne Wayne's glasses were really cool and tried very hard to find a pair like them. It's probably a good thing I didn't succeed.

My Psychic Friends Are Strangely Silent (Ex Leon), Thursday, 23 March 2006 00:49 (twenty years ago)

most who aimed for dwayne wayne fell a few kilometers short and landed in urkel territory

gear (gear), Thursday, 23 March 2006 01:04 (twenty years ago)

I succeeded. :(

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 23 March 2006 01:41 (twenty years ago)

oh! my favorite episode is the one when whitley gives someone a fruitcake for christmas, and throught the half hour, it keeps getting passed around, until the end when i think ron gives it is a gift back to whitley. i dont get it though, i love fruitcake! the kind from this one bakery in texas my mom always sends to me before christmas.

phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 23 March 2006 02:40 (twenty years ago)

...oh and then this AM, Dean Cain was guesting as a racist college kid...him and his buddies got in a fight with Ron Johnson cuz they lost a bet to him on a college football game....then they tried to spell the "n-word" on his car but only got as far as "NI" and tried to tell the cop they were going to spell "NICE" (yeah we're not falling for that doods!)

I have seen this episode like eighty times. I remember seeing it when it first aired, and I see it in reruns all the time. there was a portly, wise white cop who mediated between Dean Cain's band o' racists and Ron, right? wasn't it originally aired around the time of the Rodney King verdict and riots? or was there a different episode all about how Hillman reacts to the Rodney King verdict? watching that show these days is a revelation; it was so unabashedly political.

I had a huge crush on Ron when the show was actually airing. I remember the period of time when he and Freddy were illicitly hooking up (was he supposed to be dating Kim at the time?) as the hottest thing ever,for some reason. Also, I always thought the actress who played Kim was the beautiful-est. and that, though Jasmine Guy rocked as Whitley, she kind of looked like a man.

no one ever wants to talk to me about A Different World! I love you, this thread.

horsehoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 23 March 2006 03:45 (twenty years ago)

My favorite episode is the one where Jada Pinkett is trying to hustle extra cash and nearly burns the dorm down by cooking gumbo on a hot plate -- but everything is ok in the end. I think it's the only late era episode where Jada gets a featured turn.

ng-unit, Thursday, 23 March 2006 04:46 (twenty years ago)

is there a dvd yet?

phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 23 March 2006 05:22 (twenty years ago)

man this show is too preachy

chaki (chaki), Thursday, 23 March 2006 08:20 (twenty years ago)

its preachiness is part of what I love about it...it's like the apotheosis of the preachy half-hour sitcom format. it made preachy look good.

horsehoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 23 March 2006 08:37 (twenty years ago)

i mainly remember the episode where someone (? a counselor trying to help denise?) kept saying "take it down a thousand", meaning "calm down".

as in: "why don't you just take it down a thousand and we'll go over it again together, okay?"

my parents (one social worker, one child psychologist) latched onto this phrase as cutting-edge kool-kids street slang. it became part of their communicating-parent repertoire, regularly deployed in kids-v-parents arguments for the next decade or so. along the way, the phrase picked up a "level down" flat-hand gesture that i'm not sure was present in the original.

very annoying at the time, but cute now. i've never seen that episode since the original airing.

(btw: a thousand WHAT? feet? was that supposed to be pilot-speak or something?)

queen's square hammer (queen's square hammer), Thursday, 23 March 2006 08:55 (twenty years ago)

i find the preachiness of A Different World sort of naive and almost a little, um, sad? (not sad as in pathetic but I'm sad that the world isn't like that for anyone)...like when Dwayne graduates he actually has this Japanese company all over his jock, even the president calls and ups the offer to basically anything he wants, a company car....it's so pro-education, like it can really happen like that, then start thinking, Dwayne was a tech/programmer dude, now his job would be farmed out to India....

...One thing that really bothers me on this show (and a lot of shows)...is the conceit that everyone sticks by that Whitley is somehow hotter than Freddy, because she's cast as the "hot one"...it's ridiculous!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 23 March 2006 15:18 (twenty years ago)

EVERYONE on the show was hotter than Whitley! Including the men!

Dan (Excpet Ron, Poor Guy) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 23 March 2006 15:24 (twenty years ago)

TROO CONFESSION: I watch "Kids Next Door" and "Drawn Together" because Cree Summer does the voices of Number 5 and Foxxy Love.

Dan (Adolescent Crushes Gone Wrong) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 23 March 2006 15:25 (twenty years ago)

EVERYONE on the show was hotter than Whitley! Including the men!

I know! I never got that. She looked like Michael Jackson before Michael Jackson looked like Michael Jackson. Maybe Whitley is his secret role model.

My Psychic Friends Are Strangely Silent (Ex Leon), Thursday, 23 March 2006 15:38 (twenty years ago)

Wait, no! Whitley was never really supposed to be the "hot" one -- it was more of an accident with a fucked-up class-ambition subtext. Originally, Freddy was the artsy one, Kim was the best friend, Jalisa was the no-nonsense den mother, and Whitley was the BITCH(*) -- the prissy stuck-up rich girl (also whiter than everyone but maybe Denise, check the makeup usage). And at the same time Dwayne was the total scrubby geek loser. So in the beginning it made sense for him to chase after Denise, the show's focal point, but then after she left, the obvious maximum-humor solution is to have Dwayne after the person least likely to be interested -- Miss Priss -- and that created this weird notion that she was the prize around there. But only because she was (a) hard to get and then (b) there was kind of a traditional get-the-innocent-rich-(practically-white)-girl class aspiration thing wound up in there. But she wasn't, I don't think, meant to be "hotter" than everyone else, just more of a prissy girly-girl.

When the preachiness is traditional Cosboid "go to college and you can get a good job and have a nicer life" preaching, I can't muster up much objection to that.

(*) In modern-day Girlfriends terms, this means that Freddy is Lynn, Kim is Mya, Jalisa is Joan, and Whitley is Toni (which I guess means Denise is WILLIAM!).

nabiscothingy, Thursday, 23 March 2006 17:00 (twenty years ago)

Also I'm sure Dwayne and Whitley loved each other very much, but Ron got with both Kim AND Freddy, which was not bad for a kid who looked like Eddie Murphy made up as the old Jewish man in the barber shop in Coming to America.

nabiscothingy, Thursday, 23 March 2006 17:08 (twenty years ago)

Nabisco OTM...I spaced on the Lisa Bonet thing....Dwayne is after her early on....

is that really Diana Ross's daughter on Girlfriends? she's sexxxy.

I've watched an amazing amount of Girlfriends.

Ron Johnson's band was probably the worst musical act of all time. It's like "Hey Everybody, want to hear Atlantic Starr backing tracks with no vocals? Anyone? Anyone?"

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 23 March 2006 17:10 (twenty years ago)

Wasn't Dwayne after her on the Cosbs as well?

Dwayne and Whitley basically start acting exactly like Cliff and Claire, all the way down to bits where they romance one another to the dusty sound of old-ass r&b, and [...] there's something cute about that -- they way it seems like they're self-consciously trying to be adult, which is what people in that situation totally do

I never thought about it that way but you're right.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 23 March 2006 17:29 (twenty years ago)

btw I think Whitley -- or the actress who plays her -- was by far the funniest thing on the show which is another big reason she stuck around and became the focus.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 23 March 2006 17:30 (twenty years ago)

Jasmine "I do not look like a" Guy.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 23 March 2006 17:47 (twenty years ago)

Ron was not that bad-looking! He had a strange appeal. Shut up.

horsehoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 23 March 2006 17:59 (twenty years ago)

also, that's totally right about the Different World/Girlfriends parallel. no wonder I love Girlfriends so.

horsehoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 23 March 2006 18:00 (twenty years ago)

except Kim and Jalisa are kind of both Joan, huh? Mya is more like Jada Pinkett...

horsehoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 23 March 2006 18:02 (twenty years ago)

For the longest time I thought Dwayne Wayne and the computer/security system hax0r guy in Die Hard were the same person. Some kinda weird separated-at-birth thing going on there.

phil d. (Phil D.), Thursday, 23 March 2006 18:06 (twenty years ago)

Suddenly I feel like it's a terrible, terrible loss that NEVER in the Cosby universe (so far as I know it) did we ever get to see Dwayne and Theo interact.

If we could just pull Doug E. Doug out of the Cosby alternate-universe, I think they'd make good roommates.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 23 March 2006 18:37 (twenty years ago)

OMG nabisco, fuck you for making me want to search for "Cosby Show"/"A Different World" fanfic!

Dan (WHAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 23 March 2006 18:39 (twenty years ago)

i dont get it though, i love fruitcake!

Me too! I've never understood why it's the butt of so many jokes!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 23 March 2006 18:40 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps because it tastes like butt.

Dan (Butt Soaked In Alcohol And Stuffed With Cherries) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 23 March 2006 18:41 (twenty years ago)

Oh geez I just went to the imdb to look up Doug E. Doug's character's name on Cosby (it's Griffin Vesey) and was creeped out to learn how much LESS GOOD he looks without the dreads and the beard! There is a picture from That Darn Cat where he's leaning over Christina Ricci's shoulder and he looks like either a giant hamster or a Walt Disney drawing of "cute black man." But then there's a studio shot from Shark Tale where he looks good the normal way he does.

He was in Jungle Fever AND Dr. Giggles.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 23 March 2006 18:42 (twenty years ago)

haha woah Nabisco! what about going all the way to a Cosby Universe Justice League All Stars:

Dwayne Wayne
Ron Johnson
Theo
Cockroach
Doug E. Doug

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 23 March 2006 18:43 (twenty years ago)

Also, anyone that can find a picture of Tupac's guest appearance on A Different World gets the Cosby Kid gold star for the day!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 23 March 2006 18:43 (twenty years ago)

OK FUCK YOU M@TT FOR MAKING ME WANT TO WRITE "COSBY SHOW"/"A DIFFERENT WORLD" FANFIC

Dan (Wow) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 23 March 2006 18:45 (twenty years ago)

Ha, Dan, I can totally imagine Theo reacting to Dwayne! Also laughing pleasantly and telling young Dwayne that his problem is that he comes on too strong.

Given a chance to hang out with either Dwayne or Theo's NYU friend Howard with the modernist flat-top and the big black glasses, I think I would choose Howard. But given a chance to hang out with either Theo's college friend Ron or Dwayne's college friend Ron, I'm pretty sure I would pick Different World Ron.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 23 March 2006 18:46 (twenty years ago)

Cockroach pales in comparison to modernist flat-top Ron! Theo grew up and went to NYU and got himself some sophisticated friends!

Also you forgot cousin Pam's friend Lance and of course obviously KENNY aka "Buuuud" as their kind of Gleep-like Snarf-like mascot figure.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 23 March 2006 18:48 (twenty years ago)

what about adam sandler?

phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 23 March 2006 18:48 (twenty years ago)

what about that HOTT latina teacher of theo's (art teacher I think)....I saw her once on Sex in the City (she was a lesbian artist that wanted to do Kim Catrell and she looked great, hadn't aged a day!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 23 March 2006 18:51 (twenty years ago)

Sandler was a footnote to the kid who had cancer. That episode: classic Theo.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 23 March 2006 19:09 (twenty years ago)

Alvin's hairdo was an enigma.

what yr guy's favorite Cosby Show opening credits...I like the "classy" one where they're all in formal wear and it's the (I think?) Apollo in the background?

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 23 March 2006 19:15 (twenty years ago)

That was probably the best one. Was that the one with the McFerrin, then? But to be totally honest I have a soft spot for the "Tropical Cosby" era, because (a) because Tempest Bledsoe is rocking full-on scary MEGA-TRAPEZOID hairdo action in that opening, plus (b) dude, the finger-waving face-reveal action at the end! Good stuff.

Props also to original Cosby opening with Bill in the 80s tracksuit - definitely down with that.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 23 March 2006 20:55 (twenty years ago)

Oh wait, no, formalwear was the McFerrin opening, was it.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 23 March 2006 20:55 (twenty years ago)

Pardon me, formalwear WASN'T the McFerrin opening, I don't think -- it was full-on jazz opening.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 23 March 2006 20:56 (twenty years ago)

i honestly can't remember...that was one of the cool things abt. the cosby show though, every season i was excited to see what the opening was going to be like...

also, I totally love the 1980s Levis commercial first season Dif. World intro better than the one where they pan though all those rooms and Ron gets tackled by football dudes...

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 23 March 2006 21:05 (twenty years ago)

wait, I don't think I even remember the Levis commercial intro. I love the pan-with-Ron-getting-tackled intro.

I'm remembering that I hated every Sinbad in every Different World incarnation he was a part of.

horsehoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 23 March 2006 22:59 (twenty years ago)

Sinbad's ball hugging athletic shorts really freak me out.

The Levi's commercial one is only on the Bonet era...it's basically them walking around...actually come to think the pan one might actually be better, but it's cool seeing the old one just cuz I'd forgotten those 80s Levis commercials and it was sort of a wierd shock of recognition moment...

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 23 March 2006 23:13 (twenty years ago)

Cockroach obviously needed to make a guest appearance as the host of the nationally syndicated Dance Mania.

Dapper D (Andy_K), Thursday, 23 March 2006 23:46 (twenty years ago)

"No Means No" is probably my favorite episode 'cause Dwayne cockblocked date-raping Garth [played by TAIMAK!] (yes yes I too had the hots for Freddie) and proved knucklehead Sinbad wrong.

Dapper D (Andy_K), Thursday, 23 March 2006 23:52 (twenty years ago)

I was always touched by Mrs. Huxtable's motherly, slightly condescending regard for Dwayne, even on the later episodes in which Lisa Bonet played no part.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 23 March 2006 23:59 (twenty years ago)

God she is a great actress.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 24 March 2006 00:00 (twenty years ago)

Lisa Bonet?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 24 March 2006 00:18 (twenty years ago)

Aha! Insane research reveals that the formalwear opening is indeed the Bobby McFerrin one. The Apollo opening is the one with the straight-up jazz, at the end of which Cosby says "this is the best elevator music I ever heard." Then came that kinda crappy one with the mural painting, which it turns out had some sort of legal wrangling behind it concerning the rights of the children who painted it. The only thing more bizarre than my checking this information is the fact that someone put it all on wikipedia in the first place.

nabiscothingy, Friday, 24 March 2006 02:08 (twenty years ago)

what about that HOTT latina teacher of theo's

sonia braga!

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Friday, 24 March 2006 04:04 (twenty years ago)

Dudes, this is totally out on dvd.

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 25 March 2006 23:22 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

this was a great time in my life, but like everything, it had to end. everyone graduated from hillman...WB 23 stopped rerunning A Different World. Me, I started exercising in the mornings and quit watching TV during breakfast. Last I heard Denise had married a guy in a rock band. I guess it didn't work out. Someone told me she had moved to Chicago and was a folk singer and with a guy that owned a record store, but I don't know if that's true...

Walter finally left Hillman and took a job in the secret service watching the president's kid. Jilisa and Col Taylor are still married, they had their second child! They named it Vernon for old time's sake....who knows what happened to Ron...I wonder if he ended up working for his Dad's car dealership after all.

I haven't see Freddie or Kim in forever. Kim finished Med school and practices medicine in Atlanta. Freddie tried a music career for awhile, but I don't think it worked out. I heard she married an artist and lives in L.A.

I don't like to talk about Dwayne much. After college he became a pro basketball player. Suddenly, he died of a heart attack. It took everyone by surprise, it was like the air got sucked out my lungs when I heard. Dwayne came back as a ghost, though...even helped his brother win the NBA championship....I hope he's happy where ever he is. I still keep a pair of his sunglasses he left at my house.

M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 21:52 (eighteen years ago)

If Dwayne had joined Olivia and Cousin what's-her-name-wearing-Daisy-Age-drag, "The Cosby Show" would have been worse than Ghost Dad

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 21:54 (eighteen years ago)

I have a weird soft spot for the fake Cosby kids toward the end, the Pam + Lance + Charmaigne era.

nabisco, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 22:20 (eighteen years ago)

Especially the one where they tail Rudy and her friends to the club in the village.

nabisco, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 22:21 (eighteen years ago)


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