scalia gives church-state separation the finger ... LITERALLY

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just after attending Mass, yet!

truth is stranger than fiction, y'all.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 27 March 2006 18:47 (twenty years ago)

Justice Scalia flips the finger in church
BOSTON, March 27 (UPI) -- U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia startled reporters in Boston just minutes after attending a mass, by flipping a middle finger to his critics.

A Boston Herald reporter asked the 70-year-old conservative Roman Catholic if he faces much questioning over impartiality when it comes to issues separating church and state.

"You know what I say to those people?" Scalia replied, making the obscene gesture and explaining "That's Sicilian."

The 20-year veteran of the high court was caught making the gesture by a photographer with The Pilot, the Archdiocese of Boston's newspaper.

"Don't publish that," Scalia told the photographer, the Herald said.

He was attending a special mass for lawyers and politicians at Cathedral of the Holy Cross, and afterward was the keynote speaker at the Catholic Lawyers' Guild luncheon.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 27 March 2006 18:48 (twenty years ago)

"Don't publish that"

Well? Where is it?

Dave AKA Dave (dave225.3), Monday, 27 March 2006 18:51 (twenty years ago)

The 20-year veteran of the high court was caught making the gesture by a photographer with The Pilot, the Archdiocese of Boston's newspaper

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 27 March 2006 18:52 (twenty years ago)

They should publish it, but with the finger all blurry, so as to protect our delicate sensibilities.

Aimless (Aimless), Monday, 27 March 2006 18:52 (twenty years ago)

aaaah, they're yella.

Dave AKA Dave (dave225.3), Monday, 27 March 2006 18:55 (twenty years ago)

Give a dude a lifetime appointment and he's ready to record The Blueprint.

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 27 March 2006 18:56 (twenty years ago)

Or vice-versa, Aimless, with the finger clear but Scalia all blurry.

M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 27 March 2006 18:56 (twenty years ago)

so, how about a censure?

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 27 March 2006 18:58 (twenty years ago)

Give a dude a lifetime appointment and he's ready to record The Blueprint.

except that jay-z probably has more respect for church-state separation.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 27 March 2006 18:58 (twenty years ago)

i doubt that's true.

gbx (skowly), Monday, 27 March 2006 19:09 (twenty years ago)

"I'm not looking at you libs, I'm looking past you"

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 27 March 2006 19:11 (twenty years ago)

G-O-P, we runnin' this law shit
clarence t, we runnin' this court shit

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 27 March 2006 19:20 (twenty years ago)

quack quack

Hunter (Hunter), Monday, 27 March 2006 19:27 (twenty years ago)

Nah, it doesn't sound like he gave the finger:

Boston Herald:

Minutes after receiving the Eucharist at a special Mass for lawyers and politicians at Cathedral of the Holy Cross, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia had a special blessing of his own for those who question his impartiality when it comes to matters of church and state.

'You know what I say to those people?' Scalia, 70, replied, making an obscene gesture under his chin when asked by a Herald reporter if he fends off a lot of flak for publicly celebrating his conservative Roman Catholic beliefs.

'That?fs Sicilian,' the Italian jurist said, interpreting for the 'Sopranos' challenged."

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 27 March 2006 19:33 (twenty years ago)

ARE YOU BITING YOUR THUMB AT ME YEAH SURE I BITE MY THUMB

gbx (skowly), Monday, 27 March 2006 19:35 (twenty years ago)

In other words, he didn't flip the bird -- he, uh, waved his hand under his chin. (I'm Italian and for shame, I don't know what that's called.) Still offensive ("and just feet from the Mother Church's altar," as the Herald states) but a different kind of offensive, and one sure to spinned as amusingly "ethnic." Because those Sicilians sure are colorful and expressive, aren't they?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 27 March 2006 19:39 (twenty years ago)

In other Scalia news . . .

The Supreme Court is about to hear a case that will test whether the government is required to provide detainees at Guantánamo Bay with special military tribunals. At a talk a couple of weeks ago, Antonin Scalia made it clear that he's already made up his mind on this case:

"War is war, and it has never been the case that when you captured a combatant you have to give them a jury trial in your civil courts," he says on a tape of the talk reviewed by Newsweek. "Give me a break."

Challenged by one audience member about whether the Gitmo detainees don't have protections under the Geneva or human-rights conventions, Scalia shot back: "If he was captured by my army on a battlefield, that is where he belongs. I had a son on that battlefield and they were shooting at my son and I'm not about to give this man who was captured in a war a full jury trial. I mean it's crazy."

phil d. (Phil D.), Monday, 27 March 2006 20:29 (twenty years ago)

I'm more upset at UPI's further slide - from irrelevance to inaccuracy - than I am about Scalia, who I've always known was a bigoted, knee-jerk conservative who relies more on his "gut" than on little things like the spirit of the law.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 27 March 2006 20:37 (twenty years ago)

antonin "elmer fudd" scalia

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 27 March 2006 20:42 (twenty years ago)

Interestingly, the hand-under-chin flipoff most explicitly does mean "get fucked/fuck you" in sign language. Auslan, anyway.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 04:58 (twenty years ago)

Plz retire or die thx

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 05:04 (twenty years ago)

That's sicilian.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 05:04 (twenty years ago)

Plz retire or die thx

you mean, retire or die tryin'.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:15 (twenty years ago)

http://news.bostonherald.com/images/localRegional/scaliagesture03302006.jpg

Photographer: Herald got it right

“It’s inaccurate and deceptive of him to say there was no vulgarity in the moment,” said Peter Smith, the Boston University assistant photojournalism professor who made the shot.

Despite Scalia’s insistence that the Sicilian gesture was not offensive and had been incorrectly characterized by the Herald as obscene, the photographer said the newspaper “got the story right.”

YA RLY

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:24 (twenty years ago)

The Herald article that tracks down the reactions of the actors who play the Sopranos characters is so so perfect for our age.

How many people are offended by the "obscenity in church after mass" aspect, but don't give a shit about "fuck you church/state separationists, I'm a SCoTUS justice" part? Because I'd think a lot of neo-GOPer Catholics would overlook the former to promote the latter. I'm saying that as a political tool, this is a very weak wedge, I guess.

Hunter (Hunter), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:22 (twenty years ago)

I seriously thought the first article posted was an Onion story.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:31 (twenty years ago)

the differences between scalia and rapper vinnie paz are less & less every day

+++, Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:33 (twenty years ago)

http://www.djsean.de/4image/data/media/38/seanvinnie.jpg
its sicilian, duddy

+++, Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:36 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
Hi,

Just reading the msg`s posted,and am a little lost??? So, is Justice Antonio Scalia for church and state to be separated? - sorry, just trying to catch up. Many thanks for your help.

Sue

Sue Viko, Wednesday, 3 May 2006 03:25 (twenty years ago)


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