― JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 02:35 (twenty years ago)
― elmo, holy helper (allocryptic), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 02:37 (twenty years ago)
For fucks sake, man. The truth is out there. On Google.
― John Justen (johnjusten), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 02:38 (twenty years ago)
There are also plenty of computer scientists, teh JW being among the best, perhaps one of them can help.
― The Day The World Turned Dayglo Redd (Ken L), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 02:39 (twenty years ago)
Coming off of the terrible Imitation Game, wondering if there's a good book on the same subject that gives a better sense of how Enigma actually worked and how they actually broke the code.
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Sunday, 1 March 2015 13:42 (eleven years ago)
Cryptonomicon (also by Neal Stephenson) is pretty fun and I think gives a good layman's understanding of the machine
― 龜, Sunday, 1 March 2015 14:00 (eleven years ago)
Would like to know myself, I recently read a Turing bio ('the man who knew too much', Leavitt) but it was surprisingly light on Bletchley. The author recommends budiansky's 'battle of wits' so I might give that a go.
― ledge, Sunday, 1 March 2015 14:23 (eleven years ago)
For unrelated reasons I was reading about Hasenjäger recently, a logician who like Turing during the war got involved in cryptography; but Hasenjäger was German and so was working on Enigma. I like the symmetry: two excellent logicians, better known to specialists for their pure research, both deeply involved in competing wartime projects. Apparently Hasenjäger only learned long after the war that Turing had been one of the crackers of Enigma.
― droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 1 March 2015 14:25 (eleven years ago)
Alan Turing: The Enigma, by Andrew Hodges, now reprinted as The Enigma: The Book That Inspired the Film "The Imitation Game" is incredibly good at explaining the code-breaking stuff in a clear and exciting fashion and doesn't slack on any other other relevant stuff either. I read it when it first came out in the 80s, meant to try to reread it, but it went out of print for a long time, but I believe it came back in for the Turing centennial and now for the movie. If you don't believe me, at the front of the book, there are testimonials from all kinds of people who are very good at writing about similar stuff such as Sylvia Nasar.
― I am not BLECCH (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 March 2015 15:06 (eleven years ago)
http://www.turing.org.uk/book/
― I am not BLECCH (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 March 2015 15:08 (eleven years ago)
After you finish that, if you are interested in a non-Turing, non-Enigma angle on the same era, read Between Silk and Cyanide: A Codemaker's War 1941-1945, by Leo Marx, who later went on to write the screenplay for Peeping Tom.
― I am not BLECCH (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 March 2015 15:16 (eleven years ago)
DO U SEE?
― I am not BLECCH (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 March 2015 15:17 (eleven years ago)
Latest introduction says the book has remained in print all these years but maybe this was UK only? I seem to remember having trouble locating a copy.
His boss at Bletchley Park was Penelope Fitzgerald's uncle, maybe need to read The Knox Brothers as well.
― I am not BLECCH (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 March 2015 18:13 (eleven years ago)
That Hodges site has tons of extra stuff, short bio, complete text of short book he wrote about Turing as philosopher, lots of links as well as a "Scrapbook."
― I am not BLECCH (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 March 2015 18:29 (eleven years ago)
I am basically ordering begging demanding hoping you will read his book so we can have an interesting discussion about it.
― I am not BLECCH (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 March 2015 18:32 (eleven years ago)
The Leo Marx book is an interesting complement because he didn't get into Bletchley Park and ended working designing codes for the SOE.
― I am not BLECCH (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 March 2015 18:42 (eleven years ago)
The more I think about the film, the more it strikes me that the film probably took ENORMOUS liberties with the codebreaking story, am I wrong?
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 2 March 2015 21:03 (eleven years ago)
Really, you just fill it with water, pop one of those pod things full of coffee into it and press the button. I hate how environmentally unfriendly they are, but they sure are easy to operate.
― pplains, Monday, 2 March 2015 21:04 (eleven years ago)
i read this one, it was pretty good
http://www.amazon.com/Codebreakers-Inside-Story-Bletchley-Park/dp/0192801325/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1425336811&sr=8-2&keywords=codebreakers
― the late great, Monday, 2 March 2015 22:56 (eleven years ago)
The basic premise that he was this one dude working on a million dollar computer no one believed in BY HIMSELF while everyone was just sitting around trying to do it by hand seems absurd to me, is that even remotely close to the real story?
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 2 March 2015 23:29 (eleven years ago)
Like especially since it was based on earlier codebreaking machines that had been used to break earlier german cryptography systems, right?