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So I've been having a lot of stress over this lately, basically my situation is this. I've been seeing my gf for just over 12 months, however about 5 months into our relationship she had to go overseas and we've been doing a long distance relationship.

It was fine for the most part, until recently, we texted all the time, several times a day, spoke on the phone once every week or two, and spoke on MSN almost daily. We saw each other last August and again at Christmas, not as much as we had planned maybe, herein possibly is some of the problem, but both of us have wildly different schedules and are really badly organised people generally.

Still and all I think we both felt it was going well and I never noticed any problem until January.

At this point my girlfriend began asking me if I felt things were "weird" or if "something had changed", saying stuff like "maybe it's just me being mental but i feel things have changed" etc.

At first I tried to reassure her and just make an extra effort to show I cared and loved her, which I do.

It kind of helped but she still periodically says it, and now recently she just keeps saying it. Every conversation is eventually undercut 5 minutes later by the "sorry was that weird" text. It's really really stressing me.

On my birthday she texted me, and then later in the day again, texted "is everything ok".

What's annoying for me is that I never had any problem with the relationship until she started testing me the whole time. It's also annoying cos it's like she doubts my feelings and has to keep asking, why should I have to be the one proving myself all the time.

I want to try and explain this but I feel if I do she will then take it as confirmation that things are indeed "weird", which now I guess they are. But then they weren't to begin with.

I'm confused because on one hand I think, things were never wrong or off until she started asking if they were the whole time, on the other hand, was she more intuitive about how I feel than I am? Or did she just make things weird?

I can't really tell, I know things would be fine if we were in the same country, and I definitely don't want us to break up, I feel I love her but keep doubting us because she seems to have lost faith for whatever reason and hence maybe I am acting badly or something.

I alternate between being kind of miffed and feeling I'm getting guilt tripped for the problems of us being away or for her insecurity, and feeling guilty but not knowing what I've done. And sometimes I feel like I'm getting all the worst part of a relationship and none of the best : (

sonofloggedout, Friday, 31 March 2006 22:00 (twenty years ago)

Two possibilities come to my mind

1) She may be very insecure regardless of how you actually feel or show her. Did she seem insecure before?

2) It may be her feelings that have actually changed and she either can't admit it or feels guilty or is looking for an excuse.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:03 (twenty years ago)

abort all long distance relationships. they do not work.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:05 (twenty years ago)

i had a bro who was engaged to a girl about to join the peace corps in burkina faso and be away for three years. i told him it was a bad idea, because first of all she was a little crazy and possessive (when he told her he'd gone to see a film with a friend who happened to be female, she almost ended it) and secondly she'd probably meet some hippie motherfucker named chad and that would be that.

i was wrong, though, she met some hippie motherfucker named todd and ended it.

gear (gear), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:08 (twenty years ago)

I know she is a little insecure sometimes, but she never showed it too much, except near the beginning of our relationship when she was worried I liked an ex girlfriend more or something.

2 is possible, I guess, sure. I don't get that vibe though, she seems more like she doubts me and she said she sometimes picks up on things. I said it would be best if she tells me when she picks up on me doing something bad or sending a bad message, rather than just generally saying at a later stage "are we doing ok" or whatever.

shakey, I hope you are not otm, tho I do fear the longer we are apart the more likely doom becomes. maybe we can be back living in the same country by the summer though.

x-post I don't think she likes hippies, and she'd never join the peace core.

sonofloggedout, Friday, 31 March 2006 22:11 (twenty years ago)

most relationships don't work out, period. people use distance as an excuse for other shit that may be going on.

chillaxing damsel on box art (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:14 (twenty years ago)

Been there 3 times and Shakey is OTM. But if you're in love you gotta go for it right?

dr lulu (dr lulu), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:16 (twenty years ago)

that's true too, but have you ever noticed that no one over the age of oh, say, 25 ever has a "long-distance relationship"? (unless we're talking about immigrant families that have split for economic-political reasons) Its because only high-school/college age kids entertain the notion that it is at all worth it. I mean, most adult relationships might be able to bear being apart for a defined period of time - a few months, maybe a year - but in general no one in their right mind commits to someone who isn't going to be around and may never come back.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:17 (twenty years ago)

so I should have dumped my girlfriend whom I love more than anyone previous because she had to go away? right.....

real life doesn't work as such a black and white matter of choices or rules.

sonofloggedout, Friday, 31 March 2006 22:21 (twenty years ago)

look at it this way, she felt wherever she had to go was more important than staying with you. what does that tell you.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:22 (twenty years ago)

I sympathise with your girlfriend. I don't consider myself a particularly insecure person, but after 6 months on my own in a foreign country, I've just sort of lost a lot of my confidence. When you're around your friends and your boyfriend or girlfriend all the time, it's really easy to remember that they like you. But when you're reliant on Messenger (which can be rubbish, because most people are usually doing several other things at once and it's not a real conversation) and the odd email, you can get sort of detached from the reality, and start thinking that things are weird and no one cares about you.

So, if you don't want to break up, understand that she's in a weird situation, be reassuring, and maybe send her emails or letters instead of messenging and texts. I think the extra effort of writing can show you care more.

Also, explain as much as you can. What makes things feel "weird" is not talking about them.

C athy, Friday, 31 March 2006 22:27 (twenty years ago)

you don't say how long it's for -- if it's open-ended, then what shakey says really does start to kick in

but if it's a fixed time that you both already know, and then she will be back for good, not so much maybe (maybe)

mark s (mark s), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:27 (twenty years ago)

Also, girls (people) on their own in a foreign country tend to want to be "free" to have "fun" with other people.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:29 (twenty years ago)

well, it's not open ended nor is it fixed. she had to return home to finish university, I did not expect her to quit college to be with me. she is finished in the summer at which point we might be able to work something out. I guess we knew when we began seeing each other that it would be a problem but you know, these things didn't really cross my mind at the time, because it was sort of whirlwind I suppose.

having said that we've a very solid relationship and were friends for years before we got together, there's alot of trust there.

cathy thanks for the advice, seems to make alot of sense. she's actually in her home country so I guess has support a bit better. might try more emails, the phone is a bit frustrating, you can talk and laugh but without the contact and seeing each other it's not the same.

I have been speaking to her tonight about this, and we sort of agreed to just try and look forward to seeing each other in about 2 weeks, for a weekend. I guess our inital plan was to see each other every month (which is possible geographically, not massively expensive but timewise we've both failed to organise ourselves properly, her doing exams and studying on the times I manage to get off work etc)

I'm hoping seeing each other will recharge us both a bit, and not just make us both feel miserable for being apart again!

x-post, I am kind of bemused by the slightly iffy posts on this thread as responses, perhaps I shouldn't have logged out.

sonofloggedout, Friday, 31 March 2006 22:36 (twenty years ago)

was she more intuitive about how I feel than I am?

I think this might be your problem here. I've thought similar things in similar situations before and it's led to fuck ups. I think basically, once you allowed yourself a thought process along the lines of "Well, I think I feel like this, but I dunno, maybe you know better than me, maybe I actually feel something else and don't know it", then you're handing complete control of the whole realationship over to your partner. And not only is that warped and unbalanced, it's unfair too, because total responsibility is too much for anyone to ever handle, and so from that point on things will inevitably start to fall to bits.

Trust your instincts, Luke.

JimD (JimD), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:36 (twenty years ago)

life is too short for this kind of uncertainty, discomfort and longing.
every day is a world of opportunity and discovery.
move on, bro. move on.

nein Socken (nein Socken), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:37 (twenty years ago)

nein sometimes I agree with you, but I think in reality I wouldn't be happier moving on!

sonofloggedout, Friday, 31 March 2006 22:39 (twenty years ago)

if its just until the summer and she's planning on coming back, it could work. That's just what, 3 more months? But in the meantime I doubt any of this emotional ambiguity will resolve itself - strong relationships happen face-to-face, and being apart for extended periods of time naturally breeds miscommunication and misunderstandings.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:41 (twenty years ago)

well, it worked out fine for at least 6 months....

sonof, Friday, 31 March 2006 22:43 (twenty years ago)

(and honestly I'm not trying to be a dick here, its just that you're in a situation where the sooner you ask yourself some hard questions - what do you want out of a relationship, is the potential payoff worth the current state of affairs, how likely is this going to pan out, etc. - the better)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:43 (twenty years ago)

Hope you're not getting too heavy about all this with her, if there's one way to scare the girlies off......
Try looking on the bright side, at least you've got hope that there's a possibility of a great relationship happening and this woman likes you. Frustrating I know but better than nought.
Makes you feel alive don't it?

dr lulu (dr lulu), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:45 (twenty years ago)

xpost

Actually I think you're less likely to see older people in long-distance relationships because they're more likely to be in a situation where they can do something about it. They're likely to have more independence, more decision-making experience, and a clearer idea of what they want and what they're willing to do to get it. They're much firmer in what they've made of their lives, and what it'll mean to go somewhere else to get something else out of life. So instead of entertaining the long-distance idea, they're in much more of a position to decide -- either make things work so they're together, or move on. That's the kind of near-marriage commitment they're working on anyway: "Are we going to be together, full-on, or not?" Which really is pretty black or white, in or out, yes or no.

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:45 (twenty years ago)

I won't argue with that - tho teenagers do "take their lives into their own hands" in numerous ways and situations, I don't think they're exactly powerless, just less experienced at making long-term commitments and thinking of decisions in those terms. Ergo, they rather stupidly try to hedge their bets (ie "well I'll go to school overseas AND keep the boyfriend! its win/win!")

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:49 (twenty years ago)

most relationships don't work out, period. people use distance as an excuse for other shit that may be going on.

huh? but the distance DOES influence the relationship. of course most relationships don't work out but they do for different reasons. long distance rs don't work out because there's less continuity, there's distance...

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Saturday, 1 April 2006 00:57 (twenty years ago)

As someone who's had 3 long term long distance relationships and had every one of those fail due to the distance, I hate to say it looks shaky. Her sudden "this is weird" sounds like how I got with one guy when I was the one starting to feel different, and I couldnt bring myself to admit it was me who's feelings had changed.

I know that isn't what you want to hear, and I sincerely hope she comes back and all is well, but I dunno :/

Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:26 (twenty years ago)

Actually I think you're less likely to see older people in long-distance relationships because they're more likely to be in a situation where they can do something about it.

This seems otm?

(haha I am mostly posting to this thread because I have kinda similar syntax to the original poster and am in an LDR! Does anyone else get this kinda 'o no what if they think I'm logged out' paranoia? Hang in there bro, it's brutal but if there's an a pratical end in sight where it'll stop being L.D. and you think it's worth waiting for, you just gotta wait, it's only time)

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:44 (twenty years ago)

I think the key is that there's an end/solution in sight. I guess it depends on the terms and reasons for it being an LDR to start with. The obvious one is people who get together and are then apart awhile for work or college, that will pass later. That's fine - people do that all the time, partners in the forces, or on oil rigs or at uni interstate.

Its when you meet someone whos home base is one place, and yours another. Someone has to make a compromise to move. If one or both parties dont care where they live then yay, all is well. But as someone who got engaged to a French Canadian who said he wanted to live in Australia, and then panicked and realised the culture was too different for him to cope with so he packed it in, I know all too well how it can go bad as well :/

Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:48 (twenty years ago)

long distance rs don't work out because there's less continuity, there's distance...

-- Nathalie (stevi...), April 1st, 2006.

Er, Nath, don't know if you've noticed but... ;-)

Of course ours will not be a long-distance relationship for good. One of us will have to make the decisive move eventually - I don't know yet whether I'll be coming to Canada or whether Canada will be coming to me, but what I do know is that this is love, this is the real thing and I will do anything it takes for us to be together for good, even if it involves selling up and moving to Canada for good; that's how strongly I feel about it.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Saturday, 1 April 2006 09:11 (twenty years ago)

Thanks alot for the advice everyone. We talked a good bit over the last few days and I think things are a little better now. She sent me a long email, I asked her to try and be more specific with me about what was weird, and she basically said she was sometimes afraid I didn't actually want to visit or something, so I guess my fault a little, we discussed that and cleared it up.

Then she said the other thing was she was getting kind of weirded out by friends asking about what was going to happen us, and like the friends were almost hoping it'd go wrong. Weirdly I can relate to this too.

I don't think it's an issue of her losing interest, at all, I reckon I would know. So yeah things alot better now, and it'll be cool to see each other.

sonoflogged, Sunday, 2 April 2006 14:39 (twenty years ago)

I hope it works out for you, but I have to join the ranks of ex long distance relationshipers and say "this is probably a big waste of time and emotion" think there is more sense in enjoying what is close to you than pining for something far away.

I have, however, embarked on yet another one myself. There are conditions that I hope will make it work better: we have a long history (lived together for 2 years before this); it is only for six months; the other person is back in town every second week; we arranged a cheap toll call deal in advance so talking is not expensive; we arranged exactly what dates we would see each other so that other opportunities are not missed on the off-chance; I (because I am the one sitting around at home) arranged to keep busy with excercise, evening classes and other friends so I am not, in fact, sitting around at home.

And, even with all this careful planning, I am starting to feel like something is weird. I could be unusually bad at these things, but I cannot be optimistic. Sorry.

isadora (isadora), Sunday, 2 April 2006 20:46 (twenty years ago)

An SDR of mine went LDR for 2 years, now it's back to SDR. No breakups; so far so good (-;

Baba Yaga, The Iron Hag (blastocyst), Sunday, 2 April 2006 21:06 (twenty years ago)


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