NYC: How Great Is The Strand Bookstore?

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Anyone else ever walk in there for a browse and come out with a motherlode? Tonight I found and purchased - for just under $15 - the following (and I am pretty chuffed):

Akira Kurosawa Something Like An Autobiography

Walter Murch In The Blink Of An Eye

Modern Film Scripts Pierrot Le Fou ($2!!)

Modern Film Scripts Grand Illusion

Classic Film Scripts Stagecoach

Edward Dmytryk On Film Editing


Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Monday, 24 April 2006 00:35 (twenty years ago)

have you ever tried to find something there?

boo!

(although their new art section is sweet)

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Monday, 24 April 2006 01:29 (twenty years ago)

Looking for something in particular @ Strand has never worked for me. But I usually walk out w/ something cool when I go in without expectations. The Art section *is* sweet (love the $7.50 Taschen Famous Artists series) and the Film wall never fails to surprise.

Plus, it don't smell as bad in there anymore!

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Monday, 24 April 2006 01:39 (twenty years ago)

It makes me feel sad and kinda insufficient as a book person that I can't get super into it, precisely because of that thing where you browse and never expect to actually find anything specific. I'm fine for record-shopping in that mode, but not so much with books -- which seriously depresses me, because I'd prefer to be better with books than music.

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 24 April 2006 01:43 (twenty years ago)

I've heard they have air-conditioning now, which is nearly reason enough to visit the east coast again. But to enter that place with a specific book in mind is madness.

Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 24 April 2006 01:56 (twenty years ago)

If I have a specific book in mind, I'll look at their website first, to see if it's in stock and what section it's stocked in.

I got burnt a bit by them recently (my refund check was only for the price of the book and not the tax wtf???) but it's not like I still don't go.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Monday, 24 April 2006 02:11 (twenty years ago)

(love the $7.50 Taschen Famous Artists series)

ARE YOU 14?

JW (ex machina), Monday, 24 April 2006 03:11 (twenty years ago)

i don't really get the strand. i'm not put off by its iconic status, i want to like it. but i don't get it. it's ok, they have a bunch of books, but who doesn't these days? i don't think they have enough personality to stand apart the way good record stores still do. (being smart isn't a personality.)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 24 April 2006 05:12 (twenty years ago)

(xpost) Ha ha! No, I'm not. Are they geared toward 14 year olds? Am I regressing, going from reading, say, Hal Foster and Tema Celeste to the Taschen artists series?


Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Monday, 24 April 2006 11:42 (twenty years ago)

Browsing I came across some fantastic film/play stuff for my dissertation: evidence of a 1976 English language stage adaptation of the Umbrellas Of Cherbourg. Whilst the book was cheap, I should have just jotted down the bibliography cos it took up a lot of case space for a footnote and a line in a chart. But Classic in so many ways.

Pete (Pete), Monday, 24 April 2006 11:49 (twenty years ago)

stopped going there regularly when I moved uptown. found some grt out-of-print books there pre-internet, however, I wonder how online shopping has effected the Strand?

when I first moved to NYC, there were several small dusty eccentric used book stores on 4th avenue which runs behind the Strand and the old Vilage Voice office. Apparently that obscure block was once the "used book district" like in the 40s/50s/60s, long gone by the time I got there.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 24 April 2006 12:11 (twenty years ago)

Like others, I could not really see what the fuss was about, though I kept going back in the hope of finding it.

the bellefox, Monday, 24 April 2006 12:13 (twenty years ago)

I love that store, mainly because after my apartment in Philadelphia burned down I was able to find replacement copies of many of my favorite books there in one NY visit. I needs my complete William Gass collection.

ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Monday, 24 April 2006 16:11 (twenty years ago)

my fave book store, though not as cheap as it used to be, is the Montclair Book Center in Montclair NJ.

I used to like the bookstores that are/were on 18th or so, where the original Academy is/was?

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 24 April 2006 16:41 (twenty years ago)

I almost always go in the Strand looking for something specific, usually a cheap review copy of a recently-released book. I only find it one time in four (maybe), but I always find ten other things. Definitely my favorite book store - I love browsing the history section, which is a great way to take yourself back in time 40 years.

someone let this mitya out! (mitya), Monday, 24 April 2006 16:45 (twenty years ago)

I love Strand. When I was in school I could almost always find super cheap copies of required reading there. I am also a big fan of the 25 cent bins out front; best find from there was an anti-drug/teen sex/delinquency paperback from the fifties with amazing J. Edgar Hoover quote on the front about "chasing crazy rainbows."

the unbearable lightness of peeing (orion), Monday, 24 April 2006 16:55 (twenty years ago)

i like the fulton st. location better for browsing. there aren't as many books there, but it's always pretty deserted... i also admit to owning a strand t-shirt.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Monday, 24 April 2006 19:16 (twenty years ago)

My wife used to frequent the Strand for reviewer's copies of new books. I was always intimidated by its sheer breadth and depth (and that's just the tall shelves).

Powell's in Portland is my Strand.

mike a, Monday, 24 April 2006 19:18 (twenty years ago)

i like the fulton st store too! it's less overwhelming.

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 24 April 2006 19:20 (twenty years ago)

"3 yards of books"

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 24 April 2006 19:21 (twenty years ago)

Fulton St store has better architecture

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 24 April 2006 19:21 (twenty years ago)

I don't understand this bit about it's hard to find things, at least in fiction, which is in alpha. And you can always ask.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 24 April 2006 19:22 (twenty years ago)

Last time I was there someone asked me to find something.

JW (ex machina), Monday, 24 April 2006 19:24 (twenty years ago)

they never have the friedrich durrenmatt books i want, it's always just "the assignment" and the unfinished and meandering "execution of justice"

xpost heh did you?

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 24 April 2006 19:25 (twenty years ago)

he just wants to tell that story again

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 24 April 2006 19:25 (twenty years ago)

No, not hard to find placement-wise -- the point is that you can't go in expecting a specific book you're looking for. It's browsy. It helps to have some kind of conception of the whole world of available books, so you can spot good things and be excited about them.

The review-copy digging is pretty satisfying.

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 24 April 2006 19:28 (twenty years ago)

Asking is usually totally ineffective! Strand is one of the few places where the "bitchy clerks" rumors always prove to be true.

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Monday, 24 April 2006 19:28 (twenty years ago)

it is a good place if you need one of these:

http://img276.imageshack.us/img276/5664/12995113096qo.jpg

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Monday, 24 April 2006 19:28 (twenty years ago)

the point is that you can't go in expecting a specific book you're looking for.

at what bookstore can you expect such a thing?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 24 April 2006 19:29 (twenty years ago)

Asking is usually totally ineffective! Strand is one of the few places where the "bitchy clerks" rumors always prove to be true.

not in the back at fulton st where there's a guy who has a computer listing what they have and don't have and can look it up in 2 seconds and usually isn't doing much of anything else

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 24 April 2006 19:30 (twenty years ago)

it's a good place, looks like a library, but not comfortable if you want to read a few pages - no chairs, lots of crowd most of the times, no place to relax and concentrate. so, for that point at least, even "barnes and nobles" is better.

jo the bo, Monday, 24 April 2006 19:30 (twenty years ago)

Powell's in Portland is my Strand.

yeah, see, powell's was what i expected a big, famous bookstore to be. i had a good time there. i don't know why the strand doesn't seem fun to me, just being in there feels like kind of a chore.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 24 April 2006 19:36 (twenty years ago)

powell's rocks, 100%. it's a nice, chill, laid-back place to go and hang out. you could spend a sunday afternoon there and come out feeling calm and refreshed. the people who work there seem friendly, and you can get good coffee there, too. unlike the strand, which is sort of like shopping at the port authority bus terminal. every time i go there i come out feeling crazed, bug-eyed, and slightly grimy, like william s. burroughs or something.

geeta (geeta), Monday, 24 April 2006 19:39 (twenty years ago)

mercer street, yo.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 24 April 2006 19:52 (twenty years ago)

Umm gabbneb are you kidding? Places like chain bookstores carry a specific set of books and order or reorder them to make sure they're always there -- if you're looking for XYZ and can reasonably expect the place to carry it, it'll almost certainly be there. Whereas at a place like the Strand there's an incredibly vast range of books that could possibly be there, but there's no reason to believe that any single one of them will actually be there, no matter whether it's old or new, popular or obscure. Because, well, this is kind of obvious, but they don't order/stock a specific set of books the way other stores might.

E.g. a few weeks ago I couldn't find any Sontag criticism at the Strand, which was unsurprising and fine; I knew I could find it at Labyrinth, where if they didn't have it I'd be surprised and bothered. Similarly if I wanted a copy of Rubber Soul I'd feel more sure of finding it in Tower Records than at Vintage Vinyl.

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 24 April 2006 20:15 (twenty years ago)

yes, chain bookstores carry a specific set of books, and are probably generally more reliable than strand. but in my experience (and i am not a frequent book-buyer) it seems generally to be the case that, if i adjust my expectations by size/audience, it is not substantially likelier that the particular book i am looking for will be carried/in-stock at any given chain bookstore than at strand. and strand holds out hte possibility that you'll find a hardcover of a non-recent title.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 24 April 2006 20:24 (twenty years ago)

is waldenbooks really likelier to have what you want than strand?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 24 April 2006 20:25 (twenty years ago)

(but yes, i'm going to B&N or maybe Borders first)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 24 April 2006 20:26 (twenty years ago)

what i'm trying to say is that generally when i look for a book, it's 50-50 that i find it in the first chain bookstore i hit, so even if there's a greater likelihood that strand doesn't have it, the distinction doesn't seem to be of great importance

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 24 April 2006 20:28 (twenty years ago)

is waldenbooks really likelier to have what you want than strand?

Gah, Waldenbooks. I had a depressing experience trying to find something by Saul Bellow at a Waldenbooks in a mall once. All they had was Ravelstein.

o. nate (onate), Monday, 24 April 2006 20:29 (twenty years ago)

But it's true that if you're looking for a particular book, the Strand is very hit or miss. For fiction, I think you're usually better off even at a relatively tiny used bookstore, like East Village Books. Despite being maybe 1/20th the size of the Strand, they do seem to make an effort to stock a representative selection of classics and modern literature.

o. nate (onate), Monday, 24 April 2006 20:33 (twenty years ago)

Arf, Gabbneb, it's not really an issue of what I actually want! I mean, a chain bookstore may or may not have what I want, but most of the time I know the answer before I even go in there: if I'm in B&N I'm not so much "looking" for a book as just "picking one up." With a place like Strand there is no single book that you could absolutely expect to be there. Something else may strike your fancy, but you're not in a good position to decide you want XYZ and then find it. Which makes for a different shopping experience, is all I'm saying.

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 24 April 2006 20:55 (twenty years ago)

By the way, I shouldn't even say "chain bookstore" there, because the same is true of small bookstores as well. Like I know what Labyrinth keeps in stock, and if there's something I'm looking for I have a pretty good sense of how much I really expect them to stock it. There are books I know will be there, or in any number of other independent bookstores. But the Strand is, duh, a used bookstore, and as such you can't really have expectations of what they're stocking at any given moment!

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 24 April 2006 20:58 (twenty years ago)

Call me perverse, but I liked it more before they tidied up.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 12:26 (twenty years ago)

I agree with Nabisco.

Reading the thread again, I have been thinking about the discrepancy between my experience of the shop and other people's - for I found almost nothing that was desirable, in good condition, and a decent price. It really did not seem a good deal, all in all. And this disappointed, as the place has been talked up so much by so many.

the bellefox, Tuesday, 25 April 2006 12:45 (twenty years ago)

what's 14 bout liking the cheap taschen books?

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 16:00 (twenty years ago)

http://www.taschen.com/pages/en/catalogue/series/basic_art/index/1.htm

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 16:06 (twenty years ago)

Gotta throw in another "yes Powell's is way better than the Strand" message. The first time I visited Portland I ended up browsing for like 3 hours and buying about a dozen books. Amazing.

Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 16:08 (twenty years ago)

I used to work catty-corner across from the Strand, and spent most of my lunch hours there. It got to the point where I really could go into the Strand to look for something in particular, in the way Nabisco is describing it.

But Geeta's Port Authority analogy is OTM. There's very little to find lovable or even awesome about the Strand except its size. Though I also don't find Powell's -- at least, the main Powells -- to be all that lovable, even though it is certainly better organized. (Some of the specialty branches, since as Powells Technical, which feature the store cats and a bunch of 1980s home computers, or the smaller Powells Hawthorne branch are much more lovable.)

There is/was a bookstore around the corner from Powells called Alabaster (I think -- I always referred to it, jokingly, as Albatross) which is very small and has a somewhat generic used bookstore selection but I was always more successful at running into odd things that I didn't know I wanted there than at the Strand. The Strand seems to have a lot of filler. Plus in a small bookstore you notice more quickly what's new since the last time you went in, which makes it all more efficient, and you get a better sense of how long it takes to sell some book that's been sitting there for months, which is more interesting.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 16:14 (twenty years ago)

Call me perverse, but I liked it more before they tidied up.

I also miss the mess, in a way. But I like the clean air - it could get pretty funky in there during summer months.

I still stand by the greatness of Strand's Film section ( I still wait for the day when Melville On Melville will pop up there for a few bucks), their Art floor and the store's ability to present me with something great 9 out of 10 times I walk in there. Who needs "lovable"?

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 16:37 (twenty years ago)

The Strand seems to have a lot of filler

OTM. Also, a lot of their stuff seems overpriced. Apart from that, though, it's hard for a humongous used bookstore to go too far wrong. It'll always be fun to browse anyway, even if you don't always find something you want to buy at a good price. I like the one downtown on Fulton Street too. I used to go there during lunch breaks when I worked in the financial district.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 16:40 (twenty years ago)

I went to this place up in Niantic (CT) a couple of weekends ago -- The Book Barn. It is my favorite place on earth now. An endless supply of reasonably priced used books, cats roaming everywhere, outbuildings devoted to horror or whatever, goats, a garden. I guess it is all unbearably twee, but, then, so am I.

stewart downes (sdownes), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 16:43 (twenty years ago)

well, they have this:

http://www.pixelsurgeon.com/reviews/review.php?id=594

:D

JW (ex machina), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 21:28 (twenty years ago)

how is the strand for selling books? for all the years i've been here i'm embarrassed to admit i've never tried to sell anything there.

the real world meets laguna beach for adults (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:18 (twenty years ago)

(basically i need a place where i can unload a lot of books really quickly, i.e. not amazon.)

the real world meets laguna beach for adults (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:20 (twenty years ago)

they pay terribly, but they'll usually take all of your stuff.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:22 (twenty years ago)

is there anywhere else that's good?

the real world meets laguna beach for adults (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:36 (twenty years ago)

not as far as i know, unfortunately.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:40 (twenty years ago)

i should point out that i don't think it's just the strand being cheap, although that could be part of it. whenever and wherever i've sold unwanted books (aside from online), i've gotten a ridiculously small amount for them.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:42 (twenty years ago)

i sell at mercer occasionally, which is ok, but it helps that i know some people who work there.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:43 (twenty years ago)

JBR: 3 day eBay listing with reasonable reserve?

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:43 (twenty years ago)

unfortunately the Bryn Mawr Bookshop is no more (in NYC at least)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:45 (twenty years ago)

Let that guy on M0nt4gue come over and cherrypick the books he wants (really, take out the ones he doesn't want) and he might pay you all right, jbr.

Redd Temple Player (Two Headed Dogg) (Ken L), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:50 (twenty years ago)

nah, he's just gonna flip 'em on ebay, which as shasta noted i could do anyway.

the real world meets laguna beach for adults (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:51 (twenty years ago)

The strand will give you between like a dollar and a quarter for pristine, sought-afte, quality books. It's the same everywhere--I realized I couldn't make money from selling books the same way I could from unloading CDs. Best bet is to drop them off at Housing Works or similar--you won't get any money--but you will leave with your pride intact.

Mary (Mary), Saturday, 6 May 2006 21:43 (twenty years ago)

i went to the strand today -- the buyer took most of what i had and gave me $100 for my troubles. i took the rest over to the goodwill.

unkind donuts (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 6 May 2006 21:55 (twenty years ago)

On L!vingst0n Street, JBR? I dropped some stuff off there today.

Redd Temple Player (Two Headed Dogg) (Ken L), Saturday, 6 May 2006 23:25 (twenty years ago)

no, 23rd st.

unkind donuts (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 6 May 2006 23:59 (twenty years ago)

fourteen years pass...

📣 We need your help. This is the post we hoped to never write, but today marks a huge turning point in The Strand's history. Our revenue has dropped nearly 70% compared to last year, and the loans and cash reserves that have kept us afloat these past months are depleted. pic.twitter.com/mI074pigZu

— Strand Book Store (@strandbookstore) October 23, 2020

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 23 October 2020 18:04 (five years ago)

ok thanks to that thread it appears the owner is quite sus

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 23 October 2020 18:08 (five years ago)

Ron Wyden's wife

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 24 October 2020 01:24 (five years ago)

It's an extremely sus campaign.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Saturday, 24 October 2020 15:28 (five years ago)

save barnes and noble!

plax (ico), Saturday, 24 October 2020 19:51 (five years ago)

Skip the Strand and walk a couple blocks south to Mercer St. Books

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 24 October 2020 20:14 (five years ago)

if you want to save an indie bookstore that is in trouble, buy something from labyrinth books in princeton. when i was in between jobs and feeling sorry for myself they took me in and gave me a solid gig with healthcare. i curated the used book room as well as the window displays and when i left the owner wrote me a solid letter of recommendation. what i am saying is they value input from their staff.

https://www.labyrinthbooks.com/

treeship., Saturday, 24 October 2020 20:15 (five years ago)

i've heard that the strand is not such a great place to work.

treeship., Saturday, 24 October 2020 20:16 (five years ago)

BINC is a bookstore support organization that has been doing grants for COVID and fire relief, they may have a way for people to donate to that.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 24 October 2020 20:18 (five years ago)

I hope Mast Books is doing ok, really loved visiting that place on my rare visits to NYC.

JoeStork, Saturday, 24 October 2020 20:55 (five years ago)

I wonder how Unnameable is doing, both in Bkln and Amherst.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Sunday, 25 October 2020 01:51 (five years ago)

xp i love mast books, too. the circadian press made these neat "unofficial" fan club membership cards, which seems like a neat way to support the shop (all proceeds go to mast):

https://www.thecircadianpress.com/product/mast-books-fan-club-membership-card-free-shipping

budo jeru, Sunday, 25 October 2020 01:58 (five years ago)

People like the strand
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/26/books/the-strand-bookstore-nyc.html
tbh _I_ like the strand; it fed my collector addiction for a few years when i finally had a bit of money. not been by since i moved to digital. It is where my partner and i met on our first date though!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 18:23 (five years ago)

that said:
https://bleedingcool.com/comics/strike-at-the-strand-bookstore-the-comic/

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 18:24 (five years ago)

It was kind of interesting, especially for a NY outsider, to see the wild shifts in tone from tweet to tweet with various people either shitting on The Strand for this plea to others with really sincere and heartfelt requests to help a beloved institution.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 18:37 (five years ago)

Tbh their poetry selection had always sucked! Never had time for it.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:44 (five years ago)

Don’t sleep on this thread, started by our old friend and continued by me and others.

Spiral "Scratch" Starecase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 01:17 (five years ago)

https://www.labyrinthbooks.com/

― treeship., Saturday, October 24, 2020 4:15 PM (four days

This was my favorite store in middle school, on 112th street. One of the partners bought out the other partner and now it is Book Culture. He also bought Papyrus books on 114 and B'way and a couple of others. The Book Culture store still has a really great, well curated new releases section in the lobby, and some good remainders. More tchotchkes than they used to sell, i guess. They now have aisles roped off for Columbia coursebooks and haven't let me browse, you know, when i've wanted to see what certain courses were reading and maybe put myself through it. Liked it better when it was Labyrinth books.

Cabo Weibo (卡波微博) (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 04:57 (five years ago)


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