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I just acquired a Wacom graphics tablet, for about thirty quid. It only has an A6 work area but it's actually pretty funky to use.

How many other ilxors use pens on their computer?

I like it so much I'm already thinking about upgrading to something perhaps more professional, with a bigger work space. Any suggestions?

Other info/tips are welcome.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 24 April 2006 11:39 (twenty years ago)

i use an a6 wacom too. never needed anything more, but i only use it for my bad manga doodlings. and that time i was playing ISketch with Melton and totally HAX0RED him by using tablet roflofloflol

and once i tried to use it for Counterstrike but the screen TOTALLY spazzed out and i figured i better stop before someone said i was hacking.

teh_kit has 18 friends (g-kit), Monday, 24 April 2006 11:59 (twenty years ago)

ha, i was wondering what effect it would have on games. now i know.

it's alright isn't it, i was just testing it quickly at dinner time. I was using paintshop pro, with airbrush, but using it like a pen size nib with opacity low so it worked like a light feltpen. you can get some cool strokes with that.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 24 April 2006 12:06 (twenty years ago)

I used to use a smallish Wacom - not completely sure what size it is. It was quite an old one, one of the old serial port models - I got it around 1998. Very useful for photo editing, but I don't do so much of that at the moment, so when I got the new computer I didn't bother setting it up.

It was very easy to use, too for long series of point-and-click operations, but slower than a mouse for just one click, unless you already had the pen in your hand. I also found it hard to use the pen's side buttons with any degree of precision - I could point the pointer accurately, or I could press the side button, but I couldn't do both at once.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 24 April 2006 12:07 (twenty years ago)

yeah the buttons seem awkward, i leave the mouse connected so i can just grab it for menu clicking.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 24 April 2006 12:08 (twenty years ago)

do you have to clean the pad often?

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 24 April 2006 12:19 (twenty years ago)

hehehehehe :D

teh_kit has 18 friends (g-kit), Monday, 24 April 2006 14:52 (twenty years ago)

i want one bad!

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 24 April 2006 14:53 (twenty years ago)

I never needed to clean mine, other than wiping dust off if I hadn't used it for a while.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 24 April 2006 14:55 (twenty years ago)

a-hehehehehehehehehehehhehehehe :D (fnar!)

xpost!!! hehehehehehehehheheheheheheheheheheeheheheehheheheehhehe :D :D :D

teh_kit has 18 friends (g-kit), Monday, 24 April 2006 14:55 (twenty years ago)

wow, i'm just using mine now with Photoshop. It's actually the first time I've ever used PS.

WOW, it's like, real painting, or someting.

(wow)

(kit, easy now)

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 24 April 2006 16:20 (twenty years ago)

yeah...I'd never really used one till I was bored at a freelance job. I've got a 25 or so inch flat screen, AND a 15 inch flat screen next to it, and the biggest wacom tablet there is, so I started goofing around in photoshop and couldn't believe how much fun the pen was. Still, I don't like using the mouse the pad comes with, and certainly don't like using the pen to get around the interface...at my old job there were people who'd use the pen for everything.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 24 April 2006 16:40 (twenty years ago)

what i like about wacom tablets is that you can set it to map absolutely to screen coordinates so that putting the pen down in the upper-left corner of the tablet instantly zaps the cursor to the congruent part of the screen - impossible to do this with a mouse

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 24 April 2006 16:45 (twenty years ago)

They suck for hi-res photoshop illustration. The pen stutters and makes various "points," for lack of a better word, in the middle of the line, rather than a smooth, continuous line as is the purpose of using one of these dumb things.

They're great in Illustrator, though, sort of. And not bad for lo-res photoshop stuff.

Graphux Tablot, Monday, 24 April 2006 17:47 (twenty years ago)

Anyone ever use a graphics tablet with max/msp or pd?

JW (ex machina), Monday, 24 April 2006 17:49 (twenty years ago)

but all the professional retouchers I know use wacom tablets.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 24 April 2006 18:18 (twenty years ago)

jon-that could be cool...but it'd probably be easier to do the same thing with one of those Korg KAOS pads, although I guess those only work on an x/y basis, whereas the wacom tablet has that, but also the "flow" depending on how hard you press the pen tip. Don't know if you saw on that noise brd thread, but when I did Max for computer music class, we had one of these as a controller:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLAND-PG-1000-Linear-Synth-Controller-D50-D550-PG1000_W0QQitemZ7408843260QQcategoryZ38071QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

still a cheap way to get a midi controller box with 100 faders.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 24 April 2006 18:24 (twenty years ago)

Oh wow, that's a much better deal than this:

http://www.turntablelab.com/production_tools/84/212/2241.html


Dan, I don't know if you saw it, but have my laptop's trackpad programmed as a midi controller. Sure, it is tiny, but it works for what I need.

JW (ex machina), Monday, 24 April 2006 18:28 (twenty years ago)

http://fingamidi.sourceforge.net/

JW (ex machina), Monday, 24 April 2006 18:28 (twenty years ago)

I think the thing is the roland PG just sends out MIDI sysex info, meant to be an analog controller to the Roland D-50 synthesizer, so for most people it wouldn't so easily interface with normal software I guess? I don't remember if the engineer for our program did anything funky to make it work with Max though.

fyi, there's a whole series of roland PGs, one for each mid 80s digital synth...they weren't so quick to get rid of the knobs and buttons, and are pretty cool. The PG-1000 is the biggest.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 24 April 2006 18:34 (twenty years ago)

ha- a quick google shows that indeed, something was done. Here's the info from the guy who did the tech for the computer music program I attended....maybe it's not so easy.

http://timara.con.oberlin.edu/~jtalbert/Roland/roland.htm

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 24 April 2006 18:36 (twenty years ago)

but I also don't see why you'd need this...if the PG-1000 sends out any kind of signal, you should be able to redirect that through Max? But what do I know...

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 24 April 2006 18:37 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

So I upgraded to a bigger Wacom tablet, which is fine and I'm using Painter X now which is a great product. But I'm still not getting light enough strokes, the sensitivity settings on the pen is either too high or too low and I have to keep changing the opacity of the brushes to achieve really light paint strokes.

And does anyone know of any light pen/screen hardware, ie like drawing directly onto a screen? The tablet is fine for most things but when I start wanting to change my wrist position things become awry.

Ste, Monday, 11 August 2008 10:50 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.tablet4u.co.uk/product/en/cintiq-21ux-lcd-tablet.html

anyone used this? looks tasty

Ste, Monday, 11 August 2008 11:01 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

So is the general impression of these things favourable, then? I'm considering getting one. As I am going on holiday next week and don't want to have to drag a scanner with me or wait until I get home to get my sketchbooked stuff onto my Mac for photoshopping.

...and the wizard blew his horn (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 11:18 (sixteen years ago)

i have both the a4 wacom tablet and the cintiq 21 screen tablet, and i must say i prefer the cheaper a4 tablet - it works faster on screen and the tablet itself is nice and light to keep on your lap and move around. (although the speed thing might not be a problem depending on your computer speed, i'm running a basic laptop)

i don't think i could ever go back to using a mouse for digi painting really.

another thing, i use PainterX which has a very handy rotate-working-canvas tool (which transfers to just a button on the tablet). I find it essential for allowing flexibility with which angle I'm approaching the picture.
Now this feature seems missing from Photoshop cs3, but it might have been included in the latest version i don't know.
Then again it might not bother you at all.

Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 11:28 (sixteen years ago)

(in summary, yes they are great)

Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 11:29 (sixteen years ago)

I should learn to use one, as 90% of my work is done in photoshop anyway these days. It would save huge amounts of time to skip the inking & scanning & cleanup stages and go straight from sketching -> colouring and manipulation.

...and the wizard blew his horn (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 11:38 (sixteen years ago)

i'm getting my boss to write me an email telling me i need to buy one for work - so that i can write it off. just looking at what options are out there - i basically plan on using it for the photo retouching, for the most part.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 15:31 (sixteen years ago)

twelve years pass...

Twelve year advancement on this, I still use the Wacom Intuos3 tablet rather than the ten-ton weighted Cintiq screen tablet. I've been wanting to get back into digital art after a couple years paused (thanks pandemic!)

Is it worth upgrading to more recent models? Anybody have much experience with these?

Screen tablets are $$$$ though, does anyone use anything other than Wacom and can recommend?

Ste, Wednesday, 13 April 2022 09:44 (four years ago)

Well, my daughter is pretty serious as a digital illustrator, and has been using tablets for 5-6 years for several hours a day. I got together with my parents to buy her a used Cintiq Pro 15 which is very like a slightly larger iPad. Has a rat’s nest of cables unless you can run it over USB C. She adores it. In doing my research I found the difference from the Cintiq non pro of a similar size, is a ground glass drawing surface instead of plastic, plus a bunch of stuff like pressure levels. She really, really loves it tho.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 14 April 2022 18:43 (four years ago)

(as a dad and to establish her cred, I should say that she has won serious prizes for her animation etc. and is a very discerning user of tools like this)

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 14 April 2022 18:45 (four years ago)

Sorry that should be Cintiq Pro 13. It’s the Cintiq 13 HD and the Cintiq 16 which have the plastic surface. Also I think the texture on the Pro 13 might be a film bonded to the glass.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 14 April 2022 18:57 (four years ago)


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