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hi i was wondering if i need a passport to fly from edingbugrh in scotland to england

allan park, Saturday, 29 April 2006 16:31 (twenty years ago)

nowadays you need a passport ANYTIME you cross a national border. period. Even babies need them now. Birth Certs no longer suffice. good luck in your travels.

Wiggy (Wiggy), Saturday, 29 April 2006 16:34 (twenty years ago)

Um. Except for Europe.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 29 April 2006 16:36 (twenty years ago)

You certainly don't need your passport if you cross from Scotland to England by land.

chap who would dare to be a nerd, not a geek (chap), Saturday, 29 April 2006 16:37 (twenty years ago)

You don't need a passport to travel from Scotland to England but you will need ID before they'll let you up in a plane.

theantmustdance (theantmustdance), Saturday, 29 April 2006 16:38 (twenty years ago)

A passport may or may not be required in the particular case you mention, but one way or another just accept that you need a passport and get one.

Aimless (Aimless), Saturday, 29 April 2006 16:44 (twenty years ago)

i just flew from chicago to montreal, and i had been a bit confused about whether i'd need a passport or not -- i.e., wasn't sure if the new law had gone into effect yet -- but i was asked for my passport both at the ticket counter and at customs, so i'm glad i brought it.

jaymc, Saturday, 29 April 2006 17:05 (twenty years ago)

You don't NEED one between Canada and the United States just yet -- you can make do with other official forms of ID like a birth certificate and a drivers' license, but you'll definitely get hassled more at the border. With a passport you're generally not grilled quite so hard.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Saturday, 29 April 2006 17:11 (twenty years ago)

What??? This is so wrong?!?!? (the confliction, not the info posted)

I was required to have a passport for the very travel allen park is making! Perhaps it is cuz I am a US citizen? I asked the US passport regulatory recently and was told everyone (even babes) needs a passport for travel across nat'l borders - even country to country in Europe. Again, perhaps its a US thing we're oh so "homeland BAH security" minded.

And to Aimless, yes!!! everyone should have one, period. It's a way of life now and clearly by just what I have read here and experienced in recent travels, the rules while clearcut on paper, vary widely border to border crossing and are contingent upon who is the border guard and how enthused they are that particular day about their job I spose.

Wiggy (Wiggy), Saturday, 29 April 2006 17:50 (twenty years ago)

Is crossing the border between Scotland and England more similiar to going from the U.S. to Canada or from Oregon to Washington?

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Saturday, 29 April 2006 18:50 (twenty years ago)

Scotland and England are part of the same country (the UK) for the purposes of travel. However, most airlines require some kind of photo ID, even for internal flights. This would be the same if you were flying within England as if you were flying from London to Edinburgh.

The type of photo ID required varies by airline. Often it's only a passport or a driving licence.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 29 April 2006 18:53 (twenty years ago)

Can you drive right into Scotland, and when you do, is there a "Welcome to Scotland! (Please Fasten Your Safety Belt)" sign on the side of the road?

I mean, I know that England and Scotland are in the same country, but they're not really like states either, right?

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Saturday, 29 April 2006 21:53 (twenty years ago)

They're kind of like states. But some purposes they're considered separate countries too. But basically, I think states is the nearest analogy.

Yes, there are "Welcome to Scotland" signs on the motorway. Safety belts should be fastened at all times.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 29 April 2006 22:19 (twenty years ago)

Is crossing the border between Scotland and England more similiar to going from the U.S. to Canada or from Oregon to Washington?

If it was the latter, that'd be pretty trivial as Vancouver, Washington has become a pretty sizeable suburb of Portland, Oregon by now.

DOQQUN (donut), Sunday, 30 April 2006 06:35 (twenty years ago)

(Also Chinook WA/Astoria OR, etc.)

DOQQUN (donut), Sunday, 30 April 2006 06:35 (twenty years ago)

there are "Welcome to Scotland" signs on the motorway.

A pedant writes: there aren't any motorways that cross the England/Scotland border.

(according to Google Maps, the A74(M) starts just north of the border, so whether there are any "Welcome to Scotland" signs on it would need a field trip to check)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Sunday, 30 April 2006 06:50 (twenty years ago)

i just flew from chicago to montreal ... i was asked for my passport both at the ticket counter and at customs, so i'm glad i brought it.

that makes me sad. living in upstate ny, we used to go to canada a lot and you barely had to wave out the window at the customs guys. (ok, a friend of mine got his car seized at the border, but that's because he hid the drugs INSIDE THE STUFFED BEAVER ON THE DASHBOARD, which is just like red flag to a bull to a customs inspector.)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 30 April 2006 07:34 (twenty years ago)

and i don't remember ever any kind of anything at the scottish border. i've done it in cars and trains, and it was like going from indiana to illinois. except no time change.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 30 April 2006 07:37 (twenty years ago)

There's no border guards or anything like that, if that's what you mean. You can skip across to your heart's content with nary a glance from anyone (same between England and Wales). All under the banner of the UK, therefore no need for passports.

Wiggy, are you sure you weren't using the passport as ID for the airline rather than as an actual passport for flying between Scotland and England?

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 30 April 2006 07:55 (twenty years ago)

I'm looking for a new job at the moment, and it seems like you need a passport to get one. This seems slightly odd. What do people who don't have a passport do? It's something to do with a new DTI ruling where you have to prove you're eligible to work in the UK.

This wouldn't normally be a problem because I do have a passport, but unfortunately it's currently in the hands of Immigration, cos my wife's applying for her Indefinite Leave to Remain visa.

Is this likely to be a problem, any idea?

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Monday, 1 May 2006 02:17 (twenty years ago)

eighteen years pass...

hey what's this bullshit about the Real ID thing?
Just noticed my CA drivers license expires in November... can I get one then?

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 April 2025 19:38 (one year ago)

lol the Real ID thing has been a thing since I think like 2005 or something.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 April 2025 19:48 (one year ago)

get one now imho

sleeve, Thursday, 10 April 2025 19:49 (one year ago)

If you've renewed your passport and/or driver's license and/or ID in the last decade, you're good.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 April 2025 19:49 (one year ago)

May I See Your Papers Please? DHS governs permission to enter and leave the US

sleeve, Thursday, 10 April 2025 19:49 (one year ago)

I'm in the process of renewing my passport right now, it expires in August.. normally supposed to tax about six weeks but god only knows with this administration

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 April 2025 19:53 (one year ago)

'take'

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 April 2025 19:53 (one year ago)

but I don't understand this deadline thing.. they're just gonna stop issuing Real ID's or something?

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 April 2025 19:55 (one year ago)

they're going to stop letting you fly domestic w an old DL

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 10 April 2025 19:57 (one year ago)

which has been the plan for 20 years.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 April 2025 19:57 (one year ago)

most states have kept extending the deadline year after year after year.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 April 2025 19:58 (one year ago)

Okay, but you can keep getting Real ID's in the future... this is just the deadline for requiring one for air travel, gov't buildings etc?

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 April 2025 20:02 (one year ago)

yes aiui

sleeve, Thursday, 10 April 2025 20:04 (one year ago)

Yes, after the deadline a non-RealID driving license will not be acceptable for air travel etc (without one you would need to use a passport).

You can get upgrade to a RealID license after the deadline.

Kim Kimberly, Thursday, 10 April 2025 20:42 (one year ago)

then I'm in consular limbo.. when I filled out the passport renewal yesterday, they said my current still-unexpired passport is null & void, I have to wait for the new one

Oh well I'll just ride my scooter around

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 April 2025 20:53 (one year ago)


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