Five things you look for in a home (or the HOUSEHUNTING thread)

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The stress of looking for a flat is making my eye twitch. I know I'm being very fussy - too fussy perhaps - but I really want to be able to picture myself in my potential home. So my top five just now -

5. Space for a dining table
4. Walk in condition
3. Quiet neighbours
2. At least two bedrooms
1. Relatively nice area

Of course I'd love a garden that gets the sun all day long, a driveway, a nice fitted kitchen etc, but I'd also like a large country pile or a lighthouse.

What are you looking for in an affordable new home?

Rumpsy Pumpsy (Rumpie), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 09:08 (nineteen years ago)

affordability

Seriously, prices are insane round here. Interior condition's unimportant as most work I can do myself. all I ask is that it's structurally sound, and preferably got a bit of age and character (we're fairly well served for elderly terraces so that's not a problem). Gas already fitted is a massive bonus.

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 09:24 (nineteen years ago)

(Caveat yes yes compared with London all houses here are dirt cheap. Nevertheless, from our perspective stupidly expensive)

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 09:26 (nineteen years ago)

Location location location. I love the area I'm in, and my place is 8 minutes walk from work. Except I've just quit my job.

3. Quiet neighbours

Good luck figuring that one out. The current owners aren't exactly gonna volunteer that information. "Oh the guys next door? Yeah, they're up all night, loud music, shouting, crashing around."

ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 09:27 (nineteen years ago)

We're having a mare at the moment as there's just nothing on the market and we're worried our buyers are going to walk, we're desperately wondering what we can compromise on. Given that you've covered affordability, I guess:

1. 3 bedrooms
2. good sized kitchen, or potential for it
3. We're comfortable with the area
4. Location - close to transport links for commuting, would be nice to also be close to friends
5. A 'flow' that works for us

Vicky (Vicky), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 09:30 (nineteen years ago)

Well, the things that attracted me to my current house

1) open plan living area/closed plan sleeping area
2) in cachement area for good doctor
3) big windows, good light
4) QUIET road - i.e. not a lot of traffic
5) transport links - close to busses and trains

Three In A Bed Socks Romp (kate), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 09:51 (nineteen years ago)

The only way I would change from my current residence would be if the place had a garden and space for a full length bath. I'd trade sown from two to 1 bedrooms if the other space compensated for this.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 10:00 (nineteen years ago)

4) QUIET road - i.e. not a lot of traffic
5) transport links - close to busses and trains

haha

your daughter is one (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 10:06 (nineteen years ago)

Jody, I managed to do it. I'm on a traffic calmed road down a significant hill from the high street with the busses and trains. Vertical distance makes as much of a difference WRT noise reduction as does flat distance.

Oh yes, Ed has a point. More of a garden - and not one I have to share - would be good.

Three In A Bed Socks Romp (kate), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 10:08 (nineteen years ago)

Entirely possible in the byzantine streets of London. Kings Cross St Pancras is probably one of the busiest and noisy rd and rail junctions in London and I can think of loads of streets within 5 minutes walk which are incredibly quiet.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 10:09 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 10:09 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, we want a garden too, one that we can grow vegetables in, preferably

Vicky (Vicky), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 10:10 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm on a seriously quiet road, and five mins away from Waterloo. (xp)

I'd love a garden too, but I think being central is a higher priority for me right now, and no chance of getting a garden round these parts for my budget.

ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 10:11 (nineteen years ago)

Check on the condition of the central heating, having been in my house for a year, suddenly having to fork out £2000 on a new boiler hurts, even though we new it was on its last legs when we bought it.

Merrini (Mezza), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 10:11 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, no.1 on our list is making sure as much as we can that it's worth the offer price, having wasted 5 weeks and £400 plus solicitors fees on a house that came back £31K under according to the building society's surveyor... (Still can't figure out why it came back so low though)

Vicky (Vicky), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 10:14 (nineteen years ago)

my five (let's say "apartmenthunting" since i won't be househunting any time soon):

1) well-kept and attractive building, age doesn't matter as long as it hasn't gone to seed
2) secure but not barracks-like (nothing that says "stay the hell out" to passersby)
3) good plumbing
4) a kitchen
5) hardwood floors make such a difference, you don't even know

your daughter is one (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 10:15 (nineteen years ago)

Nothing speaks build quality like well worn parquet flooring. (at least to me anyway)

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 10:17 (nineteen years ago)

1) well-kept and attractive building, age doesn't matter as long as it hasn't gone to seed

actually my favorite style of building these days is the 1920s "hollywood"-style (medium-height, brick-exterior) apartment building (you know, for itinerant/single folk who worked in "the industry").

your daughter is one (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 10:23 (nineteen years ago)

I have a question for you guys living in London. I moved to London last year to attend university and I didn't know much about the housing market before my move. Once I got here and learned that basically everyone shares flats I was a bit surprised. How common is it for people in London to actually rent or own) a place of their own? How much do you have to make to do so? Why are the costs so high? It's fucking ridiculous that the monthly cost of my student accomodation(I don't even have my own toilet and shower) is higher than what my parents pay for our 3 bedroom appartment in central Stockholm. And the general living standards in Stockholm are much better! The London housing market is a fucking rip off and it annoys me greatly. And your showers suck!

Otherwise, it's a great city! :)

Lovelace (Lovelace), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)

I guess it wasn't just one question!

Lovelace (Lovelace), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 11:45 (nineteen years ago)

London housing market is crazy expensive due to limited supply, 15 years of of property speculation, not enough construction, hordes of people coming in from outside, selling off of social housing in the 80s and 90s.

I own and live alone but I consider myself to be very, very fortunate in that respect.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

I own and live alone, but it's not what most people would probably consider a desirable part of town, plus I spend about 2/3 of my net salary on my mortgage. It's worth it, to me, though, not to have to deal with someone else in the shower when I need it, and never to have fights over the dishes.

Three In A Bed Socks Romp (kate), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:02 (nineteen years ago)

"London housing market is crazy expensive due to limited supply"

to me there seems to be a specific lack of appartments. most of the places in central london seems to be houses. am I wrong?

Lovelace (Lovelace), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

Obviously I think answers here depend on where you live. Every market's so different.

We've only been in our place since Feb but I'm having a hard time thinking about what our top critera really were. The whole process sucked so maybe i've blocked it from memory. Methinks. .

1. Location - We wanted to still be central to the city but cost made that a challenge
2. Cost - what we could spend was less than the average home price so that took a bit of work.
3. Structurally sound - We can and have done a lot of work ourselves. So many cosmetic things that were important to us (hard floors, etc) weren't important for the home to already have. But we did want all the major systems to be in good shape.
4. Not too "hood-y" - We theoretically live in the hood (only place we could afford) but did not want to have crack houses down the street. This latter requirement (along with bars on all the neighbors' windows) excluded a few otherwise good options.
5. At least 3 bedrooms, for room to grow.

our house rocks.

. . .and a soda on the side (Molly Jones), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

scratch central london thing since it pretty much applies to areas in zone 2 and 3(I've lived in Manor House, Turnpike Lane and Finsbury Park) and it seems to be the same there. I dont know what it's like further away than that though.

Lovelace (Lovelace), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

Go South, young man.

Three In A Bed Socks Romp (kate), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

we were househunting pretty heavily before we gave up a few months ago. the things that turned me off houses kind of suprised me because, besides my hate for carpet, i never considered these things that important. So heres what became important:

1. hardwoods/slate/tile/laminate....anything but carpet (unless its new shag carpet in the den)
2. shiny new kitchen counters, cabinets and appliances
3. air conditioning that feels like a hurricane
4. open plan
5. no dead bird in the upstairs closet

ill also forgive a lot for a pool

sunny successor (katharine), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

to me there seems to be a specific lack of appartments. most of the places in central london seems to be houses. am I wrong?

This is historical and cultural. London has never really had a tennemant/block of flats building culture. Speculartive development has always been aimed at the middle classes who traditionally like houses. When these fail (cf. Notting Hill as a prime example that failed almost from day one as a middle class development) the houses got split up into flats and drifted downmarket, only to be driven back upmarket in the last 20 years. As a result you get some shocking things built in the modern era as purpose built flats that no self respecting European would o anything other than laugh at.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

But there are loads of blocks of flats all over London! Y'know, the so-called estates, 4/5/6 storeys, dating from the forties and beyond. Maybe they look like the kind of place you'd never dream of living but I have a flat in one and it's fine. I daresay some are better than others.

ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

I know! But I'm not all that familiar with the concept of estates but it was my impression that most people aren't eligible to live there, right? Anyway, there are some close to where I live(between Bloomsbury and Holborn).

Lovelace (Lovelace), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

You are right there. There was a really good period of building from the 1900s to the late 1940s early 50s but as a proportion of the housing stock it is very small especially as some is still owned by housing associations and councils and not available to the public at large and not most people's experience of housing in London (but great if you can get it).

There is some well built later stuff but it is isolated, the Barbican is a good example.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

I assumed (based on zero evidence admittedly) that most of it was available, even if as in my case the council is still the leaseholder. The people I bought my flat from bought it off the council some years ago for some paltry amount.

The Barbican is fabulous.

ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

1. - 5. tall shower, all else is piffle

got yourself a fish biscuit! (nickalicious), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

A pool!

Rumpsy Pumpsy (Rumpie), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

...table.

ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

1. well-insulated/energy-efficient. I like me some charming '30s bungalows and '50s blue-collar houses, but the costs of double-glazed windows, new exterior wall and attic insulation, along with wiring them for modern life, can be prohibitive. I don't fuck with electricity and wouldn't be upset if I never see another roll of fiberglass insulation in my life.

2. I don't like exterior brick (of the tract 'ranch' variety, McMansions, etc. - old brick buildings are aight)).

3. Hardwood, cement floors, tile, whatever. Carpet is evil.

4. Local streetplan - how often am I going to be stuck at the corner for twenty minutes waiting on an opening in traffic so I can turn left (ie traffic lights onto main roads are good).

5. a garage, to be converted into a workshop/studio

milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

this would be apartment for me too

1. hardwood floors please please please
2. clean (if it's already trashed, there's no way i'll clean it up, so let's start with an even slate)
3. fairly streamlined (no cutesy detailing)
4. inexplicable factor: aha feeling: i could see myself living here (it wouldn't be great but neither would it suck completely)
5. historic building with lots of character would be nice, but this often comes into conflict with #2

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

Most floors are really easy to do so don't let this be a make-or-break in purchasing folks, srsly!

. . .and a soda on the side (Molly Jones), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

6. i am lazy and uncreative and therefore can't really envision/change a house to suit my style

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

uncreative

I seriously doubt that!

. . .and a soda on the side (Molly Jones), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

I don't even know how to move the television set, much less install a new floor once I'm done.

xp

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

2. I don't like exterior brick (of the tract 'ranch' variety, McMansions, etc. - old brick buildings are aight)).

Most "brick" buildings are actually "brick veneer" ie are frame houses with a one-brick-thick layer on the exterior, which might as well be decorative. You can tell a true brick building from a brick veneer one by the "tie row", every seven or so bricks high, there will be another row of bricks laid perpendicularly, these help stabilize the brick as it is being laid.

I think.

got yourself a fish biscuit! (nickalicious), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

my objections aren't construction-quality, just aesthetic. Graffiti, bums' piss stains = OK, fake shutters = not OK

milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

Ugh, fake shutters.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

Seriously, is it THAT bad to just have a window there? I know, it's a brick exterior. SO WHAT. I'd rather live in something that looked all spartan and Soviet than something trying to pass itself off as Harper Petticoat Valley ANY day of the week.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

Then again, now that I've thought about it, I could just take those things off, couldn't I?

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

1. no moles
2. no roots
3. plenty of frontside windows
4. clean chimney
5. plenty of places to hide my ring

Bilbo Baggins (nickalicious), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

You can take them off and patch the holes they drilled - but in my experience fake shutters usually mean the rest of the house looks like ass.

milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

I have fake shutters, at least, I think they're fake...I've never tried shutting them. Hooray, new project! My house is wood-panel though and not brick veneer, it r kewl looking.

got yourself a fish biscuit! (nickalicious), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

The wall between my brother's kitchen and his dining-/air-hockey-table room has a brick veneer (not one-brick, but two inches of brick face). It's classy.

milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

NOT MY CUP OF TEA.

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/1696/10128372jq7.jpg

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

EVEN IF THOSE WERE REAL SHUTTERS, THEY WOULDN'T COVER THE WINDOW.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

Lord, that's the longest bungalow I ever did see.

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

i went house-hunting once, when i was, like, 21, with a friend's parents and we went to a house like that bungalow except even more expansive and on a fairly large tract of land. it was total early70s, wood panels, carpeted, full of dropped floors - dropped livingroom, dropped dining room, dropped deck, ups and downs everywhere. there was a bathroom near the front entrance way and the shower stall was a big and square and had three detachable shower heads.

i totally would've bought that place and overhauled it, put in hardwood and a pool and kicked back. they passed.

rrrobyn, the situation (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

I'm trying to think of what our priorities were, something like (not in order)....

1a basement
1b that is watertight as a duck's ass with no trace of basement funk
2 good place to play D&D
3 close to work/good neighborhood for kid
4 no major rehabbing needed
5 off-street parking (I don't know why we felt this was important other than the city being notorious for auto theft, the garage is a pain in the ass so we just park on the street anyway but hey it's a nice feature when we want to sell)

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

not enough houses in Texas have basements. Come on, that's the place to be during the summer - natural insulation!

milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:41 (nineteen years ago)

1) SOUND PLUMBING yes I know it's been said before but water astray is maaad expensive and happens to happen all the time grrrr1! Which idiot came up with the idea to put water INSIDE of houses at all eh? Water in houses = v v bad idea! (Yeah I know I wuv my hot showers too.)

6) Being able to walk anywhere worth getting to.

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 23:16 (nineteen years ago)

In no specific order, things my current condo lacks and I would want in a new one:

1) A second bedroom (and preferably a second bathroom)
2) Garage parking (I have a space in an uncovered parking lot)
3) An in-unit washer and dryer
4) More than one elevator (the one in my current building was out of service for several weeks this summer while they upgraded it)
5) A concierge
6) A Metro station within a 15-minute walk (preferably closer)

j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

secret passageways

rrrobyn, the situation (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 01:09 (nineteen years ago)

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=2573984

your daughter is one (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 01:14 (nineteen years ago)

i want tony hawk's house

sunny successor (katharine), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

does he have a half-pipe?

Milo, isn't there a reason we don't have basements in TX?

. . .and a soda on the side (Molly Jones), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)


1. High Ceilings - I'm 6'4" and these new builds just make me feel claustrophobic
2. A Bath
3. Sound plumbing/central heating
4. Bay window
5. A roof that doesn't leak

JohnFoxxsJuno (JohnFoxxsJuno), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

I forgot #1 NYC style: at least one window that looks out on something other than a wind shaft.

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

I know the reason basements were rare in arizona where I grew up is because the alkaline soil is really really hard to dig out, it's cement-like in places.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

1. Bathtub.
2. Wood floors; tile or old-skool lino in kitchen.
3. Eat-in kitchen
4. Home not to look like one in Brookside Close.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

I've heard that we don't have basements because the water table is too high. On the other hand, I've been in many older (pre-1920) homes that have some kind of basement - maybe they just have problems with flooding and rot. (Also, why would our water table be higher than areas that get more rain/snow, like the midwest and northeast? Geology apparently isn't my strong suit.)

milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Granite counters
Stainless steel appliances
Dark wood kitchen cabinets
Two story foyer with height of at least 20 feet
Two story window from foyer onto street
All ceilings 12+ feet
No more than 4 feet of yard between it and the next house
No trees on lot
Drywall 1/8" or thinner

Bnad (Bnad), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

Lack of basements in California was just because land was cheap, I think. If you wanted more room you built out.

Maybe routing the water connection through a space that can be heated is needed where temps get below freezing?

nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

does he have a half-pipe?

you know he does. also a seperate skate park worthy bowl. pretty sweet.

sunny successor (katharine), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

1. Quiet road (I loved our flat in Greenwich but the traffic noise nearly drove me out of my mind)
2. Third bedroom not too small for crafting/sewing/recording/fabric storage/desktop PC
3. Shops/restaurants/post office/library/etc within walking distance in an area which is neither sleepy surburban nor hoppin' partyzone but some blend of the two
4. Functioning heating/new electrics/sound plumbing
5. Garden

That's not necessarily in order. (2) we didn't succeed with this time. (4) was achieved only after several thousand quid was spent and several months spent living in inches of brick dust.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

a quick search seems to reveal that soil does have something to do with basement-rarity in Texas. Either too-hard clay or too sandy.

. . .and a soda on the side (Molly Jones), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

five years pass...

setting up viewings for a 12 month rental tomorrow. priorities, in no partic order:

1: easy for ms mac to get to work
2: easy to heat- either a good BER or gas or oil ch (no electric storage heaters)
3: quiet neighbours, if neighbours there must be
4: nice, bright and modern if at all possible, or some approximation thereof
5: gots to be under a grand, the closer to 800 the better

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Friday, 29 June 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)


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