WTF is going on in the White House

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Capitulated on the attorney general thing, reversal in diplomatic policy towards Iran, confessing abuses at the FBI, all within the last few weeks - what's goin on in Dubya's little brain? Admitting mistakes/changing course is so uncharacteristic. I can't imagine that a Dem majority in congress makes him feel THAT much pressure...

― Shakey Mo Collier, Saturday, 10 March 2007 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

trying to regain lost capital?

― lfam, Saturday, 10 March 2007 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

When you are down to your king and a few pawns, your only hope to revive your offense is to start advancing your pawns in the hopes of reaching your opponent's bottom row.

― Aimless, Saturday, 10 March 2007 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

probably a couple of factors in play here: presidential election in 2008 (the election will be the major shaper of the political arena in all areas; just because he's not up for reelection doesn't make it a non-issue), offsetting lame duck status (if he wants any political manuveurability or effectiveness at this late date he has to start negotiating), and thoughts of his presidential legacy are surely plaguing his mind. we've been working our way towards this point since at least the time of katrina.

and the effect of the dem congress cannot be underestimated. there are many types of bargaining chips on the table that were not before.

― Edward III, Saturday, 10 March 2007 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

Gonzales resignation in the works...?

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

^^impeachment

― m coleman, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

I'm starting to see a LOT of pins / posters / flyers advocating a campaign towards impeachment

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

those have been around since 2004. bush isn't going to get impeached. gonzalez might though.

― akm, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

those have been around since 2004.

No shit??!!? REALLY?

My point is that its more than crusties with them now.

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

yeah I don't see impeachment happening

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

gonzalez' sidekick quit today.

― kingfish, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

Dan Rostenkowski, one of the most powerful figures in Congress before
a fraud conviction sent him to jail, turned up Monday as a television
commentator, saying President Clinton will never be impeached over
the allegations of lying about alleged sexual misconduct. "I think
the worst it could get to is censuring the president - a
memorializing parchment in the House of Representatives legislation
suggesting the activities of the President of the United States are
unbecoming the gentlemen in the office. I think that's as far as it
can go," he said.

― and what, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

there can't be an impeachment without a) specific and conclusive evidence of criminal wrongdoing and b) the collusion of members of the President's own party. Neither of these are currently in evidence, or even in development.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

ever heard of chuck hagel

― and what, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

They'd have to impeach Cheney first, I'd think. If that happens, all bets are off.

― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

Let's here from Newt:

Perjury is at the very heart of our legal system. And is very often punished very intently by the courts. […] The standard is in a court of law, should somebody who’s popular get away with committing a felony?
And if this week it’s perjury, and next week it’s theft, and the week after that it’s having somebody beaten up, then what morning do we end up as a corrupt country like Nigeria where the corruption is so deep that it eats at the very fabric of our society?

Strong words but OH WAIT they are from 9 years ago

― kingfish, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

now find him talking about adultery!!

― and what, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm

― Michael White, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/13/fired.attorneys/index.html

haha

― HI DERE, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

While all this has been going on, Bush has been praising the fantastic meats of Uruguay (scroll to the bottom).

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

• Attorney General Alberto Gonzales will hold a news conference at 2 p.m.

what's the over/under that he

1) resigns
2) grabs his crotch and claims to have tasty nutz on offer to certain senate subcommittee members
3) mentions 9/11 at least 3 times.

Also: wtf up with Democrats say / Democrats are examining e-mails Do the emails say it or not? use the reportorial voice, not this he said/she said shit. The Senate Committee is doing this, right?

― kingfish, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

I love Froomkin's White House columns. I wonder if "Great Van Susteren" is a typo or sarcasm.

― Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

This is quite good:

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/benchconference/2007/03/alberto_gonzales_a_willing_acc.html

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

Based, on kf's #2, I hope for multiple Eazy-E quotes.

― David R., Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

don't get me wrong I have no doubt this administration has committed all kinds of crimes/felonies/malfeasance - but none of that stuff is making its way through the courts, which is a slow process anyway, the only thing linked to Bush/Cheney that's been brought to trial is the Libby thing, and oh what a rousing success that was.... the prospect of charges connected directly to Bush or Cheney making it to court and then becoming grounds for impeachment some time over the next 18 months seems waaaaay slim to me.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

No Gonzales resignation. "Mistakes were made," blah blah blah.

― Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

no junk-grabbing?

― kingfish, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

There was no way he was going to admit to his own malfeasance wearing that suit.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

My theory is that Cheney, being a liability, is going to "step down for health reasons" and McCain will take his place, giving his candidacy a leg-up.

― Beth Parker, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

Like Elvis, Gonzales was only filmed above the waist, so he may have been adjusting the boys.

― Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

Cheney's not gonna step down - they were trotting him out (again) as the admin's press pitbull as late as last week

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

you mean yesterday

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

I mean if they were worried about his being a liability they'd keep him sequestered in his Underground Penguin Lair - but he's still hugely popular with the Republican base, so they trot him out when they need to attack the opposition/distract the public while Bush is outta the country being lambasted and protested against, etc.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

you mean yesterday

haha what did he say this time

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

you mean yesterday.

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

do you not read a newspaper?

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

Where's Tony Snow been lately? Cayman Islands? Rehab?

― Mike Dixn, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

Take your Pick

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

bush is in South America dipshit

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

Beth, Cheney would rather eat broken glass than resign.

― Aimless, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

uh, I know Bush is in South America that's why I said he was outta the country? what's your problem?

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

Cheney would rather eat broken glass than do a lot of things!

― HI DERE, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

he's still hugely popular with the Republican base

really?

bush is in South America dipshit

actually, he's in mexico

― gabbneb, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, I withdraw my theory.

― Beth Parker, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

uh, I know Bush is in South America that's why I said he was outta the country? what's your problem?

Shakey Mo Collier on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 2:37 PM (1 minute ago)

Dude that was for Mixe Dixon, sorry!

Gabbneb he was in South America earlier this week and went to Mexico yesterday, but thanks for the update. Guess I should have said Latin America.

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

But only to keep the peace. If it really happens, I still claim the rights to an "I told you so."

― Beth Parker, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

chuck hagel or no, i think impeachment proceedings are exactly the thing that would coalesce the GOP at this point, maybe the only thing.

― gff, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

xpost.

― Beth Parker, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

he's still hugely popular with the Republican base
really?

according to some CNN story last week he still has high approval ratings with registered Republicans, will try to find a link...

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

If it really happens, Beth, you have my permission to play my head like a bongo drum for up to several minutes. I won't mind, under those cirumstances. Small price to pay and all that.

― Aimless, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

Skipping 450 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

Someone's posting screenshots online.

https://i.ibb.co/nNt0LVjR/UFC-screenshot.jpg

― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 15 June 2026 02:35 (two days ago)

Temu Village People

― seersucker MC (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 15 June 2026 02:36 (two days ago)

wait, why is there a backdrop of the whitehouse portico ... in front of the whitehouse portico?:|

― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 15 June 2026 05:40 (two days ago)

Turning the White House into some fucking wrestling arena is really funny, and actually really American.

― xyzzzz__, Monday, 15 June 2026 10:13 (two days ago)

Real decline of the Roman Empire vibes too.

― Tom D, focussed with getting on with the job (Tom D.), Monday, 15 June 2026 10:15 (two days ago)

actually really American

Not far off from this take

https://wapo.st/4ejak1e

People who love the UFC have had to sit through decades of presidents inviting poets and cellists and opera singers to the White House, and turnabout is fair play.

― seersucker MC (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 15 June 2026 11:55 (two days ago)

Me, I'm holding out for monster trucks in mud

― seersucker MC (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 15 June 2026 11:57 (two days ago)

ufc fans were forced to listen to poets

― The Immortal Bird of Avon (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 15 June 2026 12:07 (two days ago)

Homer Simpson.jpg xp

― xyzzzz__, Monday, 15 June 2026 12:09 (two days ago)

For healing the nation's divisions, I propose the next president should have a cage match between poets and opera singers.

― seersucker MC (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 15 June 2026 12:57 (two days ago)

Sounds kinda woke to me.

― Tom D, focussed with getting on with the job (Tom D.), Monday, 15 June 2026 12:59 (two days ago)

yeah I don't see this desecration as anomalous. We specialize in these things.

― boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 June 2026 13:03 (two days ago)

anyone can easily document scads of previous presidentially endorsed, violent, partisan, commercial activities at the white house. easter egg hunts for example.

― just what is it that you think the "ilxor algorithm" directs? (Hunt3r), Monday, 15 June 2026 13:14 (two days ago)

I'm not trying to throw a fire blanket on what happened last night, but we ARE the birthplace of P.T. Barnum. What's Trump's done with these spectacles is coax out the inevitable.

― boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 June 2026 13:17 (two days ago)

The philistinism seems practically designed to resonate with clichés of imperial rot and decline. If we assume Trump isn't offering a deliberate meta-critique of American corruption, then I guess it's just that he is drawn to such expression by instinct, inherently understanding his place and time.

Anyway, the notion that you can "desecrate" a grounds and house built by enslaved labor is itself quite aptly American.

― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 15 June 2026 13:33 (two days ago)

^^^ this

― boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 June 2026 13:44 (two days ago)

Agree with all the above but I still want an opera/cello smackdown. "Look out, Renée. Imma Yo-Yo MAUL your ass."

― seersucker MC (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 15 June 2026 14:01 (two days ago)

There was a Bluesky prompt yesterday: "Okay but what would YOUR totally gratuitous White House lawn event be, if YOU were the mad king of a dying superpower," and my response was "Morton Feldman's String Quartet No. 2 (hint: it's six hours long) but performed by Sunn O))) using the Wacken Open Air main stage speaker rig."

― wipes chooser (unperson), Monday, 15 June 2026 14:36 (two days ago)

the real annoyance is that between that and the stupid “state fair” on the mall the center of the city is impossible to travel through or near

― The Immortal Bird of Avon (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 15 June 2026 14:41 (two days ago)

I shifted my wfh day to Monday in hopes that I'd avoid much of the clean-up traffic. Just crossing my fingers for tomorrow though.

― peace, man, Monday, 15 June 2026 14:55 (two days ago)

I shifted my wfh day to Monday in hopes that I'd avoid much of the clean-up traffic. Just crossing my fingers for tomorrow though.

― peace, man, Monday, 15 June 2026 14:55 (two days ago)

Simple enough take from Derek Guy related to opera-vs-wrestling, but it also makes sense:

IMO, hosting this MMA event at the WH is part of a larger project to rebrand the GOP as a populist party, shedding the Alex P Keaton stereotype it once carried. And in doing so, make them seem like the right party for working class people, even as they cut taxes for the rich & slash social services

― coffee-themed romance ads (Eazy), Monday, 15 June 2026 14:59 (two days ago)

eh i am not buying it especially from the dress up guy

― a (waterface), Monday, 15 June 2026 15:03 (two days ago)

didn't you need a Paramount Plus subscription to even watch this? how is that populist

― a (waterface), Monday, 15 June 2026 15:04 (two days ago)

Letting people vote for "wrestling people" or "cello players."

― coffee-themed romance ads (Eazy), Monday, 15 June 2026 15:05 (two days ago)

Thinking of Alex P. Keaton, Republicans of the 80s weren't salt-of-the-earth until Rush Limbaugh took over the shock-jock type and maybe Lee Atwater did something too.

― coffee-themed romance ads (Eazy), Monday, 15 June 2026 15:07 (two days ago)

After thoroughly cleansing the Kennedy Center withh sage smoke, new Center director Laurie Anderson will organize the first-ever presentation of the complete Robert Wilson "the CIVIL warS" cycle originally intended for the 1984 L.A. Olympic Games.

― Hideous Lump, Monday, 15 June 2026 15:16 (two days ago)

BREAKING: The Kennedy Center to be renamed The Kennedy Center in honor of former MTV VJ Kennedy.

― seersucker MC (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 15 June 2026 15:20 (two days ago)

As the old Caddyshack poster went, it's the snobs against the slobs.

― coffee-themed romance ads (Eazy), Monday, 15 June 2026 15:21 (two days ago)

The Kennedy Center should be renamed "HALL OF USA PEFORMANCE TIMES"

― Minty Gum (Latham Green), Monday, 15 June 2026 16:22 (two days ago)

MAGA folks on X keep pointing to Teddy Roosevelt supposedly having boxing at White House as a historical justification. They also post homophobic justifications saying that since Biden had a pride event which they considered distasteful, this is ok. They never discuss the financial scam aspect of Trump's event yesterday.

― curmudgeon, Monday, 15 June 2026 16:33 (two days ago)

As the old Caddyshack poster went, it's the snobs against the slobs.

A little hard to pin down though because Trump himself falls somewhere between Ted Knight and Rodney Dangerfield.

― whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Monday, 15 June 2026 16:43 (two days ago)

xp you know he was making money on this somehow

― The Immortal Bird of Avon (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 15 June 2026 18:46 (two days ago)

pretty much everyone who is attending this piece of shit is dead to me if they weren't already. same goes for world cup shit tbh

― Cattedrale metropolitana di Santa Maria de Episcopio, Monday, 15 June 2026 20:32 (two days ago)

World Cup fans seem a bit less American to me

― The Quaker Gurvitz Army (President Keyes), Monday, 15 June 2026 20:34 (two days ago)

I don't really seen anything about this shit in the mainstream media... seems like a mellow dud. They didn't trigger this libtard

― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 15 June 2026 20:39 (two days ago)

why anyone would come here from abroad is astounding to me, i guess they figure if they're not somali they won't be harassed by the gestapo, i guess we'll see because we still have dozens of ICE arrests every day but our cowardly media doesn't cover it so i guess it's not happening. i was listening to a podcast and an NPR ad came on like "the passion ... the emotion ... the world cup is here, don't miss a moment of our analysis" like stop trying to make the world cup a thing you fucking absolute fucks. the most corrupt organization on planet earth collaborating with the most corrupt person in america and we're supposed to believe it's "the history of two nations unfolding on the field" or some dumb shit like that. it's not neutral. go ahead and cheer for argentina or whatever if you want to but marketing this like it's some big celebratory meeting of the world's cultures is utter horse shit

― Cattedrale metropolitana di Santa Maria de Episcopio, Monday, 15 June 2026 20:43 (two days ago)

sorry probably a better thread for this, and i'm angry posting, not great but yeah just had to get it out lol

― Cattedrale metropolitana di Santa Maria de Episcopio, Monday, 15 June 2026 20:44 (two days ago)

why anyone would come here from abroad is astounding to me, i guess they figure

have you asked this of any of them

― uploading this content requires perseveration (sic), Tuesday, 16 June 2026 09:10 (yesterday)

American failing to understand football shocker!

― Tom D, focussed with getting on with the job (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 June 2026 09:17 (yesterday)

fwiw pretty sure fans from Curacao or Cape Verde or most countries in fact can't afford to go to this World Cup, what fans they have there will probably be from the diaspora.

― Tom D, focussed with getting on with the job (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 June 2026 09:21 (yesterday)

My British Airways flight last Tuesday had plenty of Miami-bound footballers, including a family that handed out a bunch of Peronis before takeoff that they probably nicked from the lounge.

― boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 June 2026 09:23 (yesterday)

For a tiny second I read that as a bunch of Negronis and I was like, "how did they know?"

― seersucker MC (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 16 June 2026 11:51 (yesterday)

I was in Atlanta over the weekend and it was filling up with World Cup fans — from Spain especially, but from all over seemed like.

― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 16 June 2026 12:11 (yesterday)

seersucker MC (Ye Mad Puffin) at 10:20 15 Jun 26

BREAKING: The Kennedy Center to be renamed The Kennedy Center in honor of former MTV VJ Kennedy.

Who has has only slightly better politics than Trump!

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 June 2026 12:16 (yesterday)

For a tiny second I read that as a bunch of Negronis and I was like, "how did they know?"

― seersucker MC (Ye Mad Puffin)

I am the last of the famous international playboys.

― boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 June 2026 12:23 (yesterday)

To ums - yes I gather she is on Fox, therefore safely off my radar screen in terms of awareness

― seersucker MC (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 16 June 2026 12:25 (yesterday)

Kennedy shouting "Nixon now!" at the Clintons and having a GOP elephant tattoo on her thigh are only two of the weirder details

― If your ass is a Bible, 213 will regulate (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 June 2026 13:50 (yesterday)

Goo Goo Dolls "Name" is also about her

― If your ass is a Bible, 213 will regulate (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 June 2026 13:51 (yesterday)

Weird that she was out as a Republican even back in her MTV days--usually that's something that emerging after your career is over.

― The Quaker Gurvitz Army (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 June 2026 13:58 (yesterday)

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