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This was big local news around where I live when it happened. Wonder why the mainstream news media didn't jump all over this story? Maybe someone out there can tell me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom_murder

― Manalishi, Thursday, 17 May 2007 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=40&threadid=53649

― StanM, Thursday, 17 May 2007 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

spammers suck.

― Ms Misery, Thursday, 17 May 2007 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

if only they had owned guns

― max, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

Nah, these fuckers aren't worth the ammo. Try again, max.

xpost who's the spammer?

I like how that previous thread was full of cartoons and people commenting on what a fine piece of ass a young Jesse Jackson was in his younger days.

― Manalishi, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

The way you worded the thread title and your non-descript first post made me think you were one of those people who come on here and try to get us to go their blog, or a freinds' site (a wiki entry they wrote) in the guise of real discussion. phew how was that for a run-on sentance?

Apologies if that was not your intent.

― Ms Misery, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

it's a conspiracy

― sleep, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

did you attend the rally to protest crimes by blacks against whites

― sleep, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

yea this is really grim:(

― 696, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

Google shows every right wing website has taken up your cause.

Just so's you all know

― Mark G, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

sleep - the rally hasn't happened yet. It's June 16th. I would attend in a second if it were about this one case, and to draw some attention to it, but the stupid white nationalists have made it about 'black on white crime' in general, and I'm not going to be rubbing elbows with anyone in a fucking sheet.

― Manalishi, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

Well thank goodness for high standards.

― Laurel, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

FFS why do I still post here.

― HI DERE, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

our cutting edge supply of lolcats?

― kingfish, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

if you don't think it's due to squeamishness about black on white crime, then, why don't you tell us why this story has been deliberately underreported?

― lauren, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

he's the bizarro kingfish

― wanko ergo sum, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

because, lord knows, there's nothing the media hates more than to portray black people as criminals.

xpost

― lauren, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

"snopes.com" too hard to spell

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

a horrible crime was comitted and most/all of the perps were caught and sentanced.

why are people up in arms over there not being an investigation? are they talking about an investigation of the meediaz?

― g®▲Ðұ, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

B/c some people are angry about the Duke Lacrosse case, and feel that they need a get-back

― kingfish, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

oh.

― g®▲Ðұ, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

sadly, i can think of about half a dozen local cases off the top of my head in which horrifying crimes involving murder, rape, torture, kidnapping, imprisonment, machetes, etc were committed, and none of these made national news. why is this different?

xposts

― lauren, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - Do you really think there is any comparison, kingfish? Did you read the details of this case?

lauren - It isn't black people's fault the chickenshit media is biased.

Have YOU read the details of this case? And where the hell do you live where 'half a dozen' rapes and mutilations take place on a regular basis with no national attention? Remind me never to visit.

― Manalishi, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

About that 'regular basis' part.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

any high-density urban area in the country, and please don't.

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

And where the hell do you live where 'half a dozen' rapes and mutilations take place on a regular basis with no national attention?

America

― nickalicious, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

haha or yeah the better answer

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

ban Manalishi

― milo z, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

I tell people that if it's in the news, don't worry about it. The very definition of "news" is "something that hardly ever happens." It's when something isn't in the news, when it's so common that it's no longer news -- car crashes, domestic violence -- that you should start worrying.

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

ok i was thinking oh no not that thing again its really grim. because, it is! id forgot about the hoo-ha about media coverage or lack of, on this

i dont really want to go down that whole road about perceived political correctness or whatever. was there a reasonably long period of time between the crime and the arrests? because once people have been arrested the media doesnt really seem to care (unless there are kids involved)

― 696, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

This story, as terrible as it is, seems to me to be the kind of thing that usually remains a local story. The national media sometimes embraces sensational local stories like these and makes them national news, but it is very selective about it and, in a sense, arbitrary. Why didn't it select this particular case? I think there are many possible reasons that go beyond the racial aspects of the case. No single case can prove a pattern of media bias. There would need to be statistical evidence measured over a period of time, comparing rates of crime based on the racial characteristics of the perpetrator and victim and the rates in which these cases are reported in the media. However, there are few groups that would have a political agenda to collect this type of statistical evidence, and the collection of it would be seen as being in bad taste or even racist by some.

― o. nate, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

I said as much on the other thread - the 24/7 news media has a strong, ratings-based aversion to the word "rape"

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

ok lauren answered my other question, about the coverage this kind of crime gets in the media. you've lived over here LP, do you think its the same here?

i kinda dont think it is - to an extent, well, no, thats not quite true. i think this kind of case makes a media frenzy here, but only if the victims are middle class. everyone knows gang violence never gets reported here

― 696, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

Wonder why the mainstream news media didn't jump all over this story? Maybe someone out there can tell me.

er ...

I would attend in a second if it were about this one case, and to draw some attention to it, but the stupid white nationalists have made it about 'black on white crime' in general

so hang on: surely this means your first sentence isn't a rhetorical question implying the entire issue is about perceptions of "black on white" or "white on black" crime?

in which case i'm really, really interested to see what you do think it's about. maybe you could tell us?

― grimly fiendish, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

rape coverage is still disgusting (one in the metro today about how a 13 yr old was 'asking to be gang raped')

― 696, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

where did i say that those events were occurring on a regular basis? i'm talking over the past 3-4 years. it's a sad fact that unless major crimes involve celebrities, children, or mass murder they're not going to get much national press.

It isn't black people's fault the chickenshit media is biased.

i have no idea what you mean by that, if it's in response to something that i said.

many xposts

― lauren, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

Gareth, gang violence gets reported here if there are innocent people (ie teenage girls at parties) caught in the crossfire. I don't think it's a class thing.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

many xposts It is about ONE black on white crime. Howzzat?

― Manalishi, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

Srsly I don't know why you're bothering as it seems fairly evident that Manalishi/Roger has already made up his mind this is only going largely unreported because all the killers were black, and not any of the other plausible reasons.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

because once people have been arrested the media doesnt really seem to care (unless there are kids involved)

er ... because (in the UK, anyway) once the case is sub judice (which theoretically is from the moment someone's charged, but newspapers can't afford to take the risk of someone getting charged while, say, the thing's on the press) you can't say anything other than the absolute bare and undeniable facts without prejudicing the trial?

many xposts It is about ONE black on white crime. Howzzat?

so why do you feel so strongly about this ONE case?

― grimly fiendish, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

...and therefore nothing is going to change that.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

depends who the innocent people are.

that guy that got stabbed to death in new cross by a peckham gang last year, never made the news. he was a random person just in way

― 696, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

g, i think it's still a bit different in the uk. i still have the bbc news as my homepage, and there will be what seems like heavy national coverage of stuff that would be more like a big local/regional story in the us. the most recent one i can think of is the girl whose father burned down the house of her school rival (with occupants inside).

― lauren, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse J's still got the look, who are we kidding?

― Abbott, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

but yea, if the victims are teenage girls, itll get reported

― 696, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

how come no national coverage of Big Lurch eating his girlfriend's lungs while she's still alive, huh?

― sexyDancer, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

and yeah, roger, why do feel so strongly about this one crime not getting national coverage?

― lauren, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

"And where the hell do you live where 'half a dozen' rapes and mutilations take place on a regular basis with no national attention?

America"

Better get a gun or two, then, huh?

xpost to grimly - because this is one of the more heinous crimes I've ever read about in my life (and I grew up in New York City) and it seems it was eclipsed in the news, and, if for no other reason than that I live blocks away from where this took place, I want to know why.

― Manalishi, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

but what purpose would more coverage serve? the perps have all been caught and seem to be facing lengthy sentences. what else is there?

― lauren, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

Because The South can go to Hell, that's why.

― sexyDancer, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

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― Drooone, Friday, 18 May 2007 03:39 (nineteen years ago)

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"Anything for you Nude Spock," Manalishi replied.

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― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 18 May 2007 03:47 (nineteen years ago)

After we came to the end of the thread, we stood talking for some time together of Manalishi's ingenious sophistry. I observed, that though we are satisfied his doctrine is not true, it is impossible to refute it. I never shall forget the alacrity with which ILX answered, striking their collective feet with mighty force against a large stone, till they rebounded from it -- "We refute it thus."

― marmotwolof, Friday, 18 May 2007 04:52 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.dougoldham.com/large/HAVE%20YOU%20HEARD-HWS%203064.jpg

― gershy, Friday, 18 May 2007 05:23 (nineteen years ago)

for what it's worth, roger, i wasn't calling you racist – i characterized what you said as, to my eyes, racially offensive. as i see it, leagues apart. never did i think that what you said was intentionally malicious or malevolent. if i had thought that your comments were willfully meanspirited then i would've called you a racist. but i didn't, so i didn't mean to mudsling.

that being said:

by subtext and implication you voiced support for a viewpoint with which i morally disagree. i'll give you the benefit of the doubt – it wasn't your intention to suggest that a black-on-white crime is (allegedly) underreported because it might paint black americans as bad, and contemporary liberal sensibilities might be challenged, oh dearie us. because in addition to being weirdly conspiratorial, that view would tacitly endorse a kipling white man's burden. and it would completely overlook the fact that most types of violent crime between non-whites are dramatically underreported. so showing a (yes, horrific) black on white tragedy merely because we feel we should provide some sort of parity for
an imaginary media bias is, in so many words, a racially charged argument. and if parity is the true goal, why don't we petition for more black-on-black violence? or how about some asian-on-latin gang shit? here's why: yellow reporting on the gory details of fucked-up criminal awfulness doesn't advance us at all as a culture, and that maybe it's a little goddamned sicko to boot.

i'm getting off topic. i'm only posting this so you don't mischaracterize my statement. i didn't mean to call you a name. i don't want you banned. i don't think that people dogpiling on you is at all necessary. but if you denigrate those who hold different views from you as cruel and uninformed idiots just because they do hold different views, you venture into common trolldom.

― remy bean, Friday, 18 May 2007 06:35 (nineteen years ago)

i think thats pretty fair. the thing that i liked the least was, by "by subtext and implication", which i always think of as underhanded. and its right from the very start, the thread title "probably not", it makes it a closed question, right from the off. i cant help think it was intended that way, its antagonistic and its baiting. and fair enough, but then to get annoyed if people take the bait you dangle? framing a question in a certain way to get people to answer in a certain way, to 'prove your point'. i'm not so into that right now

― 696, Friday, 18 May 2007 06:41 (nineteen years ago)

well, obviously i am into it a little or i wouldnt have responded to the thread;)

― 696, Friday, 18 May 2007 06:42 (nineteen years ago)

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― TOMBOT, Friday, 18 May 2007 08:19 (nineteen years ago)

4/10

― g®▲Ðұ, Friday, 18 May 2007 08:23 (nineteen years ago)

fuck you

― TOMBOT, Friday, 18 May 2007 08:29 (nineteen years ago)

btw that is a 100% serious fuck you mainly because you have shown no effort to understand

― TOMBOT, Friday, 18 May 2007 08:30 (nineteen years ago)

this is important

― TOMBOT, Friday, 18 May 2007 08:31 (nineteen years ago)

explain me.

― g®▲Ðұ, Friday, 18 May 2007 08:41 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.smellypoop.com/images/photos/toilet23.jpg

― Kiwi, Friday, 18 May 2007 08:55 (nineteen years ago)

and they wonder why liberals are perceived as having lost the moral high-ground... jeez. so far i havent noticed any poster here, except manalishi, display an iota of empathy for the victims. instead we get wanton accusations of racism and the usual singsong about medias supposed penchant for blackening of blacks. true as that may be, that does not gainsay that they possibly shyed away from this story out of pc-ness. half a million google hits doesnt mean squat. which sites cover the story does. possibly adding to their unwillingsness to cover the story could be how the related pictures paint such as vivid story by themselves. its like the mere act of displaying them could spawn accusations of racism. the ravishing young white couple (the girl wearing a snow-white blouse) raped and mutilated by the predatory lowlifes of the netherworld.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c0/Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8d/Channon_Christian_accused_murderers.jpg

― Jeb, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:42 (nineteen years ago)

There was a story local to the Reading area where a young girl was brutally murdered. (rdg people will know which one)

It was not made a national story.

They swiftly got the people responsible, and they all got heavy sentences. No-one will say they got away with it, similarly no sentence will bring her back.

You can empathise with this story if you know it, and the story that is the subject of this thread.

And no, Manalishi is not the only one to have shown empathy.

― Mark G, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:48 (nineteen years ago)

that Reading one made the national news mark!

― 696, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:54 (nineteen years ago)

Lol at Jeb.

never did i think that what you said was intentionally malicious or malevolent

That's pretty generous of you, Remy. The ONLY substance to Roger's "question" is the racist insinuation and how we'll all inevitably react. It's pretty sick that Roger takes advantage of an horrific crime to taunt liberals for his own roffles.

― Mark C, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:57 (nineteen years ago)

It's a terrible event, but it's not that interesting a story. Maybe that answers Manalishi's original query.

― Nicholas Passant, Friday, 18 May 2007 10:50 (nineteen years ago)

Still, if we have to do this..

the ravishing young white couple (the girl wearing a snow-white blouse) raped and mutilated by the predatory lowlifes of the netherworld.

Snow-white blouse? (It's a white blouse - I'm not sure why it has to be snow-white). Ravishing young white couple? But no mention of the race of the alleged murderers.. No need! They're the predatory lowlifes of the netherworld - and you know what that means, right?

If you want to throw race about then just do it sincerely. Don't load equations.

ps - what is the netherworld?

― Nicholas Passant, Friday, 18 May 2007 10:58 (nineteen years ago)

Snow-white blouse? (It's a white blouse - I'm not sure why it has to be snow-white). Ravishing young white couple? But no mention of the race of the alleged murderers.. No need!

they belong to the human race, obviously, but if you are alluding to the fact the picture makes any mentioning of the culprits skin-color superfluous you are quite right.

They're the predatory lowlifes of the netherworld - and you know what that means, right? If you want to throw race about then just do it sincerely.

i dont think my post was particularly suggestive. i do think that the black vs white dialectic is one of the elements that make this story stand out (statistically speaking, as black-on-black violence is far more common). however, contrary to what you seem to insinuate, thats not to say that i believe that this story says anything about blacks in general. as for the culprits being scum, i think their crimes speak for themselves.

― Jeb, Friday, 18 May 2007 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

Does this image confuse, you Jeb?

http://www.normanstux.com/tux_white_fubu.jpg

― Mark C, Friday, 18 May 2007 12:02 (nineteen years ago)

the black vs white dialectic is one of the elements that make this story stand out

Apparently not - no one reported it, remember.

What you seem to be saying is that news stories about people from different ethnic background attacking one another should be actively pushed up the schedules - above and beyond any news value the attacks might have.. But I'm not sure why. Have you just bought a new HD television? Were you a child chess champion?

― Nicholas Passant, Friday, 18 May 2007 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

Does this image confuse, you Jeb?

not in the least.

What you seem to be saying is that news stories about people from different ethnic background attacking one another should be actively pushed up the schedules - above and beyond any news value the attacks might have.. But I'm not sure why.

im not sure i would like to see stories like this covered at all. as someone pointed out earlier, the news value is zilch. this is not about my views, though, and given how sensationalist media is today, i would think that there are several elements to this story that they would find attractive from a ratings perspective. but, and this was my point, i can also see how they can view the story as too sensitive, given the grislyness of the crimes and the fact that the victims were white and the culprits were not. by the way, why do people keep bringing up the O.J. case as a counter-proof to this reasoning? thats a whole different story as he was a CELEBRITY.

― Jeb, Friday, 18 May 2007 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

OK, let's run a poll:

How many horses is Jeb riding into town on?

― Mark G, Friday, 18 May 2007 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

if the perpetrators had remained at large for more than a week, this would have been a GIGANTIC national story

that's just the way these things work, when the victims are young and white and educated

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 18 May 2007 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

They got the perpetrators (alleg)

It is not a story unless 1) They are at large, or 2) They get off (or receive lenient sentences) on a technicality.

Can we put this one to bed now?

― Mark G, Friday, 18 May 2007 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

lol @ racist dudes trying to act like this random murder which is being purposefully spammed all over the internet by racists to make some kind of retarded racist point is just their own accidental discovery cuz theyre so full of empathy and human kindness for the victims

― and what, Friday, 18 May 2007 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

yes. And, close.

― Mark G, Friday, 18 May 2007 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

lol @ racist dudes trying to act like this random murder which is being purposefully spammed all over the internet by racists to make some kind of retarded racist point is just their own accidental discovery cuz theyre so full of empathy and human kindness for the victims

lol at the two not being incompatible. :P

*putting the story to bed*

― Jeb, Friday, 18 May 2007 12:41 (nineteen years ago)

it's a kind of awe-inspiring confluence of grief junkie-dom, racism, conspiracy theory and persecution complex, with a healthy dollop of "liberal media elites be ignorin my peeples"

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 18 May 2007 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

you should picture a cat saying that last part, obviously

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 18 May 2007 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

even a cursory reading of this thread should have told you that

― 696, Friday, 18 May 2007 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

That black men are a class unto themselves when it comes to homicide will not come as a surprise to most Americans. Black men are America's primary crime victims. Black men over 18 are only 4 percent of this country's population. Yet more are hospitalized for assault injuries each year than women and girls of all races combined. More black men died from homicide in 2004 alone than all the children aged 10 and under in the previous five years. Even domestic violence, which accounts for a fraction of homicides nationally, appears to have resulted in higher death rates for black men than for white women in recent years.

Nowadays, even after years of mostly falling or flat crime rates, black men still die from homicide at extraordinary rates. Black death rates from homicide in 2002 were almost six times that of whites. Black men 15 to 24 years old are most vulnerable -- some 85 per 100,000 died in 2004 from homicide, compared to a national average of six per 100,000.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2006/12/14/homicide/

― and what, Friday, 18 May 2007 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-1644709,prtpage-1.cms

2006: 16,912 murders; 92,837 rapes

how many of these made 'national news'? how many do you think were white victims/black perpetrators, how many black/white, how many white/white or black/black? which do you think got reported more? how many of the victims can you name offhand?

― and what, Friday, 18 May 2007 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

"black men still die from homicide"

Wow, really? My mind is blown.

― Manalishi, Friday, 18 May 2007 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

thats kinda what i mean about disingenousness.

― 696, Friday, 18 May 2007 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

Now, are we to assume from those statistics that these 'homocides' are being committed by white males? Or is it just you being an insufferably patronizing self righteous white guilt weenie seeking to enlighten all us without liberal arts degrees on the plight of the Endangered American Spotted Negro?

― Manalishi, Friday, 18 May 2007 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

Please get over yourself.

― Manalishi, Friday, 18 May 2007 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

homocides :-D

― Alan, Friday, 18 May 2007 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

Spell check is on the fritz, I guess, Dr Freud. Way to dodge the question, though.

― Manalishi, Friday, 18 May 2007 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

shut the clown down

― Mr. Que, Friday, 18 May 2007 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

why does the ethnicity of who killed them matter, Manalishi? and i don't mean that rhetorically.

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 18 May 2007 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PAINFULLY STUPID PEOPLE

― HI DERE, Friday, 18 May 2007 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

xpost...in spades.
I know I'm only a black, non-American, unarmed, atheist, liberal here (and therefore probably all the the things that the originator of the thread thinks are bad -although I'm not gay, so it appears you can't have everything) but these two people had some awful, awful shit happen to them here and hence,IMO the least anyone should be bothered about is the fucking skin tone of the bastards who did this to them.

― Stone Monkey, Friday, 18 May 2007 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

i'm bored dan

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 18 May 2007 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

Tracer - he's giving us statistics of black homicide victims. Since this automatically makes it about ethnicity for him, I simply asked a logical question.

Stone - Black? Black is beautiful, baby. Non American? Sucks for you. Come visit. Unarmed? Hey, that's up to you. Best of luck navigating around America when you visit. Atheist? None of MY business. Liberal? Not sure what that means around here anymore. But you can still visit - most of my friends are self-described liberals. They just get the bad beer.

But I agree with you - race shouldn't even be an issue. I'm not saying it NEVER should be, but in this case, I don't think it is. But then, my question remains - why wasn't this reported back in January?

― Manalishi, Friday, 18 May 2007 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

my answer remains: the perps were caught almost immediately, is why

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 18 May 2007 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

Non American? Sucks for you

roffle.

Hey there's a trial going on here about some children who were horribly abused and starved by their obese parents. Did you hear about that?

― Ms Misery, Friday, 18 May 2007 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Plenty of people have answered your question already, "Manalishi". You obviously didn't bother either to read or to attempt to comprehend their replies. Your arrogance and idiotic macho obnoxiousness is unbelievable. I'm locking this bullshit thread - everything that can possibly be said on the subject has already been said as far as I can see. WTF, man.

― Pashmina, Friday, 18 May 2007 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

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