Cat owners, please advise

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it's about 4:00 in the morning. i was sitting at my computer just now and hear a lot of cat clatter outside. i live in an industrial neighborhood with a lot of vacant lots and roaming cat hordes, so I'm used to hearing little skirmishes, but this was some serious caterwauling. i went to the window and saw a few cats, all some meters away, staring at a van, under which something terrible was happening. i listened for a couple minutes from the window, then a scrawny gray cat sauntered out.. curious, i went outside and spotted a pair of eyes shining from the wheel well. i approached it and.. it was my cat!! (or, rather, my downstairs roommate's cat who i end up taking care of/playing with because she lost interest in it after it grew into its paws). the cat isn't neutered-- the last two times she's been to the vet, we've been told that she wasn't ready-- so we don't let her outside unsupervised, but somehow she got out.. she was shaking terribly and hissed at me when i approached her. i had to literally pull her claws out of the tire. i examined her inside and she was a mess: matted fur, gravel, and worst of all, some unidentified sticky substance covering her legs, tail, and crotch. i thought was maybe motor oil until i rubbed it between my fingers a smelled it. i don't know what cat semen smells like, but this wasn't motor oil.

did my cat just get raped? we're taking her to the vet tomorrow regardless, but right now she's walking around kind of dazed right now, licking herself like crazy, and seems wary of us. (the bath is almost ready.)

i know this is strange, but i didn't grow up around domesticated animals and I was just wondering if anyone else had experienced something like this.. maybe these are stupid questions, but: despite the violent appearance of the encounter, is that how all cat sex is? i was worried about her, um, psychological state, but maybe she actually went out because she was looking for some action.. hm. maybe she just sat in something.

poortheatre, Thursday, 24 May 2007 08:26 (nineteen years ago)

omg that's crazy, i'm sure she'll be fine

Surmounter, Thursday, 24 May 2007 08:29 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah - her and her kittens will be fine.

C J, Thursday, 24 May 2007 08:30 (nineteen years ago)

kill it! kill it with fire and holy water!

http://i11.tinypic.com/5xfj8mg.jpg

(sexually harassed cat grows wings)

StanM, Thursday, 24 May 2007 08:44 (nineteen years ago)

just kidding. skip the holy water.

StanM, Thursday, 24 May 2007 08:48 (nineteen years ago)

It sounds like your cat got raped, alright, but probably nothing more. Cat sex is a noisy affair, and can be pretty brutal. Also, the males usually bite the females in order to keep them from moving during sex, and these bites are mainly how feline diseases like immunodeficiency virus are spread. You should probably get blood tests and stuff done to be on the safe side.

accentmonkey, Thursday, 24 May 2007 08:51 (nineteen years ago)

"Cat rape".

libcrypt, Friday, 25 May 2007 02:18 (nineteen years ago)

Cats dont get RAPED ffs, thats just cat sex. Ugly, brutal, painful and neccesary. They dont fuck for fun, thats for sure.

Trayce, Friday, 25 May 2007 02:21 (nineteen years ago)

Which makes me think coming back in my next life as a cat might not be such fun after all.

Trayce, Friday, 25 May 2007 02:22 (nineteen years ago)

cat sex always looks like rape, don't worry about it

lfam, Friday, 25 May 2007 02:29 (nineteen years ago)

I'm trying to imagine "cat consensual sex".

libcrypt, Friday, 25 May 2007 02:30 (nineteen years ago)

Then again, Andrea Catkin says that all cat sex is rape.

libcrypt, Friday, 25 May 2007 02:31 (nineteen years ago)

I don't understand.You own the cat? or is it the neighbors cat?
If you care about/for the animal - spay or neuter.
otherwise, yup, there's some kittens hatching!
Luckily, ILX LOVES kittens (and any fluffy baby, including peregrines and children.)
So - love the sinner and hate the sin. Just kidding.
You will probably have several kittens birthed in a closet.
KITTENS!
The world needs more KITTENS!

aimurchie, Friday, 25 May 2007 02:56 (nineteen years ago)

Cats in heat, from my experience, are generally bonkers. Her hormones may have been telling her to go outside and get some "action."

Poor thing! She'll be alright (I hope!)

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/in-ur-yardz-starten-a-gang.jpg

molly mummenschanz, Friday, 25 May 2007 03:23 (nineteen years ago)

Cats don't get RAPED ffs, thats just cat sex. Ugly, brutal, painful and necessary. They don't fuck for fun, thats for sure.

otmfm, thread over, if you've ever been around cat sex, you would not have to ask. Cats are not pack animals, and they are only very grudgingly social at all, and sex is something that the males literally TAKE. "Rape" is the way cats have sex, yes it is. If this bothers you, plz never watch Wild Kingdom, it's way worse.

kenan, Friday, 25 May 2007 03:37 (nineteen years ago)

you know how even an adult cat can be picked up by the back or the neck and lifted that way, and will go limp and docile? Don't do that to your cat, it's actually not good for them. BUT. The male cat does exactly that to the female cat. He will bite her hard on the back of the neck, and she will go limp, and then he will give her the business. It's not how we mate, but it is how we end up with tiny little kitties.

kenan, Friday, 25 May 2007 03:44 (nineteen years ago)

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/AGF/3133~Kitty-Posters.jpg

"My father was bad to my mother."

kenan, Friday, 25 May 2007 03:47 (nineteen years ago)

"You gotta take the pussy like Pepe."

milo z, Friday, 25 May 2007 03:48 (nineteen years ago)

manifest destiny

lfam, Friday, 25 May 2007 03:49 (nineteen years ago)

i always thought that "in the air tonight" could be interpreted as being about cat hormones in the air for a very humorous listen.

lfam, Friday, 25 May 2007 03:52 (nineteen years ago)

I always grab the little feline bastards by the scruff of the neck - when i need to have one of them in my hands (Not escaping via any open window or door, for example.)
i didn't know it is bad for them! it's the only thing that makes them stop doing whatever bad thing they were doing.

And their lives are consumed with: sleeping and then being obnoxious. I love my darlings - it's hard to sleep with them. Three wonderful kitties in a two bedroom apartment. They all like to snuggle with us.
and for some reason i accomodate them - like, I end up twisting my body into weird poses so the kitties have room.
Poop with fur! That's the bottom line.

aimurchie, Friday, 25 May 2007 04:20 (nineteen years ago)

no wait

i like my kitties way more than poop

kenan, Friday, 25 May 2007 04:31 (nineteen years ago)

They only exist to eat, sleep and poop. And purr. they are useless, except for cuddling and i need to stop talking about my precious darlings.
Monster, Trouble and Pudding.
Someday i will post pictures and you will weep! it's hard to have the best kitties in the world. I'm sure your poops with fur is a good kitty - but, y'know, my kitties are very special.
Wait - are you the owner of the very orange kitty?
i take it all back - that orange kitty is beyond descriptive accolades.
What is his/her name?

aimurchie, Friday, 25 May 2007 05:01 (nineteen years ago)

weirdly I just heard a horrible commotion out behind our building, some kind of animal horribleness....I looked to see a cat being chased by three pissed off raccoons. I immediately thought it was our cat (who has fallen out our window before and hidden in the shed out there where the raccoons live), but it was the neighbor cat. they all took off so fast across the property and over a fence that I couldn't follow them to find out where they went. they woke up three buildings of people though. I'm a bit worried about the cat, but she had a good four foot headstart on the raccoons....watching the chase was kind of awesome.

akm, Friday, 25 May 2007 05:32 (nineteen years ago)

Hahah molly that cat gang is totally Warriors. Awesome :D

Trayce, Friday, 25 May 2007 05:37 (nineteen years ago)

I was being facetious when I said the cat got raped. Sorry.

Poortheatre, you can get her spayed even if she's pregnant, if you don't want to deal with the kittens. This could be a good idea, particularly since I heard from a woman recently who runs a cat rescue in Ireland that nursing queens can even get pregnant (which she had always thought was not possible), so don't even assume that you have much of a safe zone with her.

Not every vet will spay a pregnant cat, but you can ask around till you get one.

accentmonkey, Friday, 25 May 2007 07:14 (nineteen years ago)

We just a got a kitten the week before last, that we were told was a boy, took him to the vet a couple of days ago and turns out Trevor is actually a girl! She is so getting spayed before she goes outside. At least that explained why she immediately got on so well with our other cat (who is definitely a boy) - we were expecting at least some hissing but they were partners in crime straight away.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 25 May 2007 10:23 (nineteen years ago)

I was being facetious when I said the cat got raped. Sorry.

Is this yr way of admitting accentmonkey == poortheatre?

libcrypt, Friday, 25 May 2007 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

er, no. I've never been anyone only me.

accentmonkey, Friday, 25 May 2007 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

did my cat just get raped? we're taking her to the vet tomorrow regardless, but right now she's walking around kind of dazed right now, licking herself like crazy, and seems wary of us.

libcrypt, Friday, 25 May 2007 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

uh, colonel poo, you can and should get your male cats neutered too

bell_labs, Friday, 25 May 2007 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

Can you rephrase that as a limerick?

libcrypt, Friday, 25 May 2007 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

uhm, no.
only spaying females is a fucked up double standard.

bell_labs, Friday, 25 May 2007 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

Too true, especially unneutered males=spraying, wandering, scratching, hugeness. Neutered males=slightly saggy bellies, laying around the house all the time.

Cue predictable joke regarding neutering men.

accentmonkey, Friday, 25 May 2007 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, what, I'm being accused of cat sexism??? Our boy cat is neutered!!

Colonel Poo, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

BTW LMAO @ idea that neutering males stops scratching and spraying. OK the spraying only happens with v territorial males but scratching? Cats scratch.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

My cat stopped scratching inside as soon as I started letting him out - then he started scratching the neighbour's fence instead. Neutering, though, made no difference at all. He's never sprayed inside, but does outside.

Forest Pines, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

What does one do if the newest cat to the family is still terrified of big bully cat? Like, she wets herself. It's gross. I'm sick of scrubbing and washing.

molly mummenschanz, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

Scratching people, I meant. Obv. not furniture and things, that would be mental.

accentmonkey, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno about males but can testify that spaying females does absolutely fuck all to stop them scratch people! Our males (past and present) weren't scratchers of people to start with.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

I'm thinking back over the cats I've had, and I seem to remember scratching was a fairly individual trait, but I think it was worse in unneutered animals of both sexes I've come across.

accentmonkey, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

Our current male is probably the soppiest wimp of a scaredy cat I've ever seen and never scratches (in fact he has never so much as hissed at anything his whole life) so I'm probably not the best judge. Since I'm now resident cat misogynist I will suggest that female cats are all super scratchy. YMMV :)

Colonel Poo, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

My 2 females aren't scratchy at all. Well, one time, it was hot and Gertrude was startled, and scratched someone. That's the only time she had an incident. Bif (the dude) isn't scratchy either. I chalk it up to personalities too, not sex.

molly mummenschanz, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

sorry colonel poo i misread your original post and thought you were only getting your cat spayed b/c she was female!

bell_labs, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know what cat semen smells like, but this wasn't motor oil.

Someday I'm going to write a novel that contains this sentence.

Having an 'outdoor cat' is nice in theory but I can't imagine letting my cats wander around outside in the neighborhood I live in, or really any halfway urban area. Part of that might be my paranoia from when I was a kid and one of the family cats wandered into the woods, and came back so fucked up by something that it had to have a leg amputated.

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

Alex, I'm with you. I would like them to go explore, but at the same time, I live near a busy street, and my landlord (who lives above me) just got two mastiffs.

molly mummenschanz, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

my last cat was an outdoorsman, and most likely met his fate at the hands of a coyote :( but if at all possible future cats will be outdoors too. He was a great hunter and anyway much too ornery (after neutering, mind you) to have been housebound.

tremendoid, Friday, 25 May 2007 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

molly, friends of ours have a cat with an "inappropriate peeing" issue - they have her on Prozac, which helps some. I think her's is less from being scared than being pissed off at the adorable new kitty that was added to their household though.

Jaq, Friday, 25 May 2007 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

Prozac?!

Jordan, Friday, 25 May 2007 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, she's up to one pill/day, 1/2 in the morning and 1/2 at night. She had some other anxiety issues (esp. frantically nursing on herself) that have completely stopped.

Jaq, Friday, 25 May 2007 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

Kitty prozac! Oh man. Stella doesn't display other anxiety issues. Just when Bif (who tends to harass her, but has calmed to considerably), gets close to her, Stella makes this rumbling noise, and then she pees. I gave her some catnip last night, which didn't really seem to help. My vet said (re: cats not getting along), as long as they're not trying to kill each other 24/7, they should be okay. Sometimes it takes a really, really long time for them to accept each other.

We're moving to a bigger place soon, so she'll have her own room for a while, to help her get acclimated better. The place we're in now is tiny.

molly mummenschanz, Friday, 25 May 2007 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

my cat probably needs prozac, but there are already too many people in my house on SSRIs as it is.

bell_labs, Friday, 25 May 2007 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

Re: outdoor cats.
Monster can climb down the front of a three story building - backwards. I learned that when I thought I could keep him in, and that the porch would be an outdoor option. Nope.
I have to respect the desire to be outside So MUCH that you claw your way down the outside of a building. Yup. You're an outdoor kitty!
he's kind of the kitty mayor - he visits all the houses, puts special pawprints on cars, fights with other kittys, sleeps on porches. I feel honored when he bothers to come home for some crunchies.

aimurchie, Monday, 28 May 2007 03:47 (nineteen years ago)

My cat went into heat before I could get her in to have her spayed (Anti-Cruelty Society does it for $10 but there is a looong waiting list), so in order to make her shut the fuck up, I had to give her a good Q-Tipping to the catgina. Also I put on latex gloves and sort of punched her in the poon.

Jesse, Monday, 28 May 2007 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

eww!!

s1ocki, Monday, 28 May 2007 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

Also I put on latex gloves and sort of punched her in the poon.

^^^ great ending to any story

Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 28 May 2007 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

isn't that how "i just kicked a drunk woman out of my hotel for calling my gay coworker a fag" ends

s1ocki, Monday, 28 May 2007 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

There's been a cat I don't recognise outside all day, making "mmrrroh, mmrrrroh" noises all round the outside of the house. I've gently discouraged him/her (well, just opened the door and it's cleared off) a couple of times because my cat is easily upset by that kind of thing but it's come back every time. The calling sounds really agitated but it sits down peacefully after that and doesn't look obviously hurt or upset.

Lost? On heat? In pain? Or just a persistent noisy bugger?

(Going to the shops in a bit and will look for "lost cat" notices on the way, I guess.)

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 8 June 2007 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

just give it a little food and it will go away

lfam, Friday, 8 June 2007 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

haha :(

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 8 June 2007 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

We have a cat - it is my wife's cat really but we get on well. We have had him for about 2 months (he is approx. 13 y/o)

Earlier today I tripped over him :(( Now he is super-scared of me and will not even accept treats from me? What do I do? :(

Gravel Puzzleworth, Saturday, 23 October 2010 13:20 (fifteen years ago)

he'll forget about it, i accidentally kick my cat a lot when she stands behind me in the kitchen and the same thing happens. just don't try too hard. he'll think something's up.

john water (harbl), Saturday, 23 October 2010 16:03 (fifteen years ago)

let him kick you

candid gamera (s1ocki), Saturday, 23 October 2010 16:27 (fifteen years ago)

Offer him a mouse of peace.

StanM, Saturday, 23 October 2010 20:45 (fifteen years ago)

he will get over it, just like he gets over the terrible cruelty of being put in a box and taken to the vet. they are surprisingly forgiving.

ksh me thru the phone (c sharp major), Saturday, 23 October 2010 21:24 (fifteen years ago)

one of our cats seem to want to unlearn his housetraining and randomly craps and pees sometimes- how do we re-housetrain a cat? (fyi, he's a male, neutered, and possibly stressed by the bigger male cat in the house)

the tune is space, Saturday, 23 October 2010 21:31 (fifteen years ago)

I have been told it's v difficult to "retrain" a cat. When our cats started doing this they became outdoor kitties :/

But I rly home I'm wrong.

mother cabrini maxwell (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 23 October 2010 21:35 (fifteen years ago)

Try feliway maybe? It's a plug-in thing with pheromones or something that helps cats deal with stress. It works wonderfully for some, not at all for others. Seems worth a try, though.

JuliaA, Saturday, 23 October 2010 21:46 (fifteen years ago)

if you've got more than one cat and only one litter box, this can start happening. I second trying the Feliway - we keep the plug-in one going for our cats and also use the spray occasionally. You might also have him checked out by a vet to make sure he doesn't have a medical problem.

Jaq, Saturday, 23 October 2010 22:03 (fifteen years ago)

You're apparently supposed to have the same number of litter boxes as cats in the house, plus one (so 2 cats = 3 boxes). I read this in a cat book, not sure how true it is but I wouldn't want to share my pooping space unless I had to.

Also seconding the suggestion of the vet - sometimes when they're having accidents it's because something's wrong.

franny glass, Sunday, 24 October 2010 02:49 (fifteen years ago)

we have three litter boxes, and we've tried separating them when they eat so there's no bullying or eating each other's food, but I can't seem to work out what is up with the random pissing but it's really a major bummer

the tune is space, Sunday, 24 October 2010 04:00 (fifteen years ago)

harbl kicks her cat, some1 call humane society

am0n, Sunday, 24 October 2010 04:13 (fifteen years ago)

my cat was shtting & peeing in the weird back shed/hallway we have between the house & backyard. he has not done it in a long time now. i think he hated the roomba? the weird vacuuming robot. he always hates vacuums. and that thing would go for hours at a time sometimes, in the middle of the day, blocking his basement (litter box) access. or maybe he was just being spiteful. i also thought for a while he might have been competing with a stray cat that had spent some time in the shed.

not everything is a campfire (ian), Sunday, 24 October 2010 04:30 (fifteen years ago)

Wondering how to win back a cat that's been stolen by neighbours, thinking I'll catnap him and take him to may parents' up north for a while

The reverse TARDIS of pasta (Niles Caulder), Sunday, 24 October 2010 05:18 (fifteen years ago)

I know a good cat deprogrammer, get in touch.

BENDLESS WOOKIEE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 24 October 2010 05:42 (fifteen years ago)

If your cat hates Roomba, turn Roomba off. Do NOT leave Roomba on for hours every day.

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 24 October 2010 05:46 (fifteen years ago)

Hahaha wookie that's what it's like, he'll run towards me then suddenly veer away at the last minute and look freaked out... the neighbours're a bit crazy tbh.

The reverse TARDIS of pasta (Niles Caulder), Sunday, 24 October 2010 07:38 (fifteen years ago)

If your cat hates Roomba, turn Roomba off. Do NOT leave Roomba on for hours every day.

― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, October 23, 2010 10:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

i know! "i broke my cat's mind by running the evil robot vacuum monster for hours on end so that he could not get to the litter box. please help."

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Sunday, 24 October 2010 08:19 (fifteen years ago)

how do i get my cat to stop eating wires? she has destroyed one phone charger and i only have one computer speaker now.

john water (harbl), Sunday, 24 October 2010 14:50 (fifteen years ago)

also there is nowhere to keep toilet paper now, she always grabs it and tears it to shreds

john water (harbl), Sunday, 24 October 2010 14:57 (fifteen years ago)

we have three cats at the moment and the same problem, with one of them; the oldest one, who is also mental. she kind of unfortunately got stuck with a new cat a few months ago, then we moved suddenly into a new house where we inherited a cat who hates other cats. that one lives outside most of the time, but our oldest cat has still used this as an opportunity to piss wherever. I finally just tossed her outside the other day but after one night she figured out how to use the cat door and came back in. I hate her. If someone in the bay area wants her, be my guest.

akm, Sunday, 24 October 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

i know! "i broke my cat's mind by running the evil robot vacuum monster for hours on end so that he could not get to the litter box. please help."

― naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Sunday, October 24, 2010 8:19 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

fyi roomba was my obsessively clean roomate's and he moved out, there is no more roomba problem.

not everything is a campfire (ian), Sunday, 24 October 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

harbl your cat seems like a dickhead tbh.

JIMMY MOD THE SACK MASTER (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 24 October 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

she really is a fucking dickhead

john water (harbl), Sunday, 24 October 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

no way, your cat is cool! just give it a funny voice and say "i don't play by the rules" whenever it misbehaves, that usually smooths things out between me and my cats.

Z S, Sunday, 24 October 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)


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