Look of ILX

i think that after all the work you've put in, you can do whatever you want to style!

some people will whine, but eventually they'll get used to it and still be glad they have a board to post on!

Ha... Well, I'm just trying to avoid 3,000 people screaming at me!

thread title below navigation makes more sense to me. looks good.

I love the font.

That looks really nice. Go for it.

Moving the menu above the title is purely trivial to useability and makes no difference to me.

Both choices appear to have opted for sans-serif typefaces. I find the seriffed typefaces easier to read, even though they look less modern. I hope these typefaces are not enforced, but again, it is not a deal breaker by any means. Merely a small matter of personal preference.

Thanks for all the work you've done and will do on our behalf. I greatly appreciate it.

Cool... Cheers guys.

Aimless - it's just a stylesheet that you can choose in your preferences. I you can probably tell your browser to display it in a serifed font - I believe serifed fonts are supposed to be easier to read.

If you do want one that's the same, but with a serifed font set up on it, let me know which font, and I'll sort it out.

makes sense to me

times new roman - it's the standard for a reason

Links above the title = awesome.

Sans serif can be easier to read on a monitor, but I don't have any strong opinion I guess.

xpost: The reason = it was Word's default. It's a terrible font.

i thought verdana was the standard

san serifs are sometimes easier to read on a monitor if your browser has bad hinting support.

no, arial is the standard ^_^

plz plz dont change to san serif - the dont give a fuck serifd action is one of the key aesthetics of ilx. we dont want this place looking all smooth and clean, understand.

oh and thx for making the ø work!

Actually my main bugbear with the way ILX looks right now is the unnecessarily large margins on the New Answers page, if you could make them smaller in any redesign that would be greatly appreciated.

Could serif vs. sans serif be a user pref?

jhøshea, I'm not planning on changing the default ILX look at all, just add in a new stylesheet to the preferences page that looks like it does above - the only thing that would change to the default look (and the other ones), is that the menu moves.

Incidentally, the default isn't serifed now - not on my machine anyway - I guess you just have your browser set up to display the default font as a serifed one.

Matt - yeah, I know what you mean; I have made that change in the above stylesheet. The bullet points make it indent more than looks good.

x-post - Rock, you can tell your browser to do that, though it would apply across the board. It's kind of hard to make it a preference, but happy to make two stylesheets, one with serifs and one without.

the font issue is irrelevant - no font specified means people can set their own via browser settings, thankfully.

i mean i am quite keen on being able to set my own choice of font so wouldn't want that specified in the CSS at all.

LET'S TALK TURKEY

HOW MANY BUFFY DVD'S YOU NEED HERE?

Rock, you can tell your browser to do that

duhhhhh, I'm running on too little sleep.

no, arial is the standard ^_^

Irony aside, Arial is a Helvetica clone created for folks who didn't want to pay license fees to Adobe.

http://www.ms-studio.com/articles.html

le duh

I like the look of this Keith. Maybe you could implement it for a week or two then have a vote, using the handy new poll option as to what the default should be.

Sure... Whatever people think.

i think it's absolutely fucking shit.

no, of course i don't really. i think it's eminently reasonable.

Is the only non-stylesheet change the switch on the navbar?

I really like that stylesheet change. I'd be all for it.

Thanks...

Stet, yes... Well a couple of other trivialities. Doubt anyone would notice. Except of course for EVERYONE ON ILX.

New style is available on the Sandbox:

http://www.ilxor.com:8090/ILX/index.jsp

You need to go into preferences and change it to simple.css

keith can you plz bring back the sandbox pink bar thx

I've put a message up, now. It's not pink though. Are you particularly keen on pink?!

yeah a lot of us are - maybe a poll, no?

oh hey the white-on-black is pretty cool

WHOA it changed over here too!

oh wait I see there have already been CSS's here haven't there

Stet is proud of his Goth stylesheet.

really good changes, keith. especially thumbs up to the (sandbox) option to hide admin commands. and it makes all the sense in the world to have the menu at the top of the page; i think it's a keeper.

funny thing about the goth stylesheet is that not all of the pages, including the change style page, have white typeface, so the commands are invisible. made me lol.

thanks again for everything.

I don't know if Keith is still here, but I've made some fixes to the naus.css stylesheet so that it no longer scrolls horizontally and also keeps the bookmark stuff invisible. Please to replace with:

body {background-color: #ffaaaa;}
div {font-family: comic sans ms;}
div.message {background-image: url(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/589/pingintl7.gif); background-repeat: no-repeat; background-position: center bottom; padding-bottom: 50px; margin-bottom: 50px; padding-left: 10px;}
hr {visibility: hidden;}
formatting {display: none;}
.textbox, .smalltextbox, tinytextbox {color : #000000;border: 2px solid #AAAAAA; width: 600px;}
.bookmark {cursor: pointer;color: #0000CC;font-weight: normal;}
.bookmarked {position: fixed; display: none; color: #080; background-color: #FFF; top: 1em; right: 1em; padding: 0.3em; border: 1px #000 solid;}
.unbookmarked {position: fixed; display: none; color: #080; background-color: #FFF; top: 1em; right: 1em; padding: 0.3em; border: 1px #000 solid;}