Is Global Warming Real?

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Well? What do you think? Most people I know think it's happening and I now a few that really don't and say that everyone who does is retarded.

Plus, I wanna try this new poll thingy. :) (Watch me totally fuck this up...)

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Yes 46
No5


Aja, Thursday, 31 May 2007 02:49 (nineteen years ago)

all joking aside?

dan m, Thursday, 31 May 2007 02:53 (nineteen years ago)

Yes

Aja, Thursday, 31 May 2007 02:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'm, v. controversially, gonna say it's the real deal.

Drooone, Thursday, 31 May 2007 02:58 (nineteen years ago)

I think the important question is how can we make some money off of it. Maybe think of something 'green' we can sell.

nicky lo-fi, Thursday, 31 May 2007 06:08 (nineteen years ago)

This is a poorly worded question. A better one would be:

If the evident climate change of the last 10 to 20 years the result of human activity?

Ed, Thursday, 31 May 2007 06:18 (nineteen years ago)

more importantly, is it rael?
http://desencyclopedie.wikia.com/images/6/6f/Rael.jpg

bobby bedelia, Thursday, 31 May 2007 06:40 (nineteen years ago)

i wanna start a cult

latebloomer, Thursday, 31 May 2007 06:42 (nineteen years ago)

if some creepy french guy gets to start one i should to.

latebloomer, Thursday, 31 May 2007 06:48 (nineteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

hello, ilx system, what do you think of paris hilton and justice?

696, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

I keep my globes perfectly frigid, thank you very much

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

Hi, I'm the planet Venus and I want to state that there is no such thing as global warming.

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/9705/venus_pvo.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 23:33 (nineteen years ago)

what do you think of paris hilton and justice?

they don't mix

blueski, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 23:35 (nineteen years ago)

Venus was totally a lush psychedelic paradiase in C.S. Lewis' Perelandra, once again irrefutable evidence for hardcore-Xtians-know-best-abt-global-warming.

Abbott, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 00:14 (nineteen years ago)

My astronomy prof. asked in the first day of class if anyone believed global warming didn't exist. About six people raised their hands. He told them to get out and find a new class.

He described the surface of Venus as "Hellish and inhospitable," a wonderful phrase I now pepper throughout my conversation.

In non-climate-related endearments, he absolutely loathed being called as an expert witness.* "The scientific method ends with PEER REVIEW by other experts, not trial by jury, grumble grumble grumblecakes." The last day of class, a student next to me wrote the following assessment of him:

Martin is often possibly

which I guess sums it up pretty well.

*Not for astronomy or physics; he was a hardcore audio expert and sometimes was an expert witness for5 audio-related things.

Abbott, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 00:21 (nineteen years ago)

He told them to get out and find a new class.

That is a beautiful thing.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 01:12 (nineteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

He told them to get out and find a new class.

I don't agree. The objective testing of hypothesis does not require "belief" in anything, and that is what he should be teaching. Intolerance is not compatible with science.

humansuit, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:07 (nineteen years ago)

not even intolerance of willful ignorance?

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

So if people are not able to produce or understand the scientific research, one should prevent them from being exposed to it? Hardly the mark of a good teacher.

humansuit, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

oh snaps!

no yr right he was being rather bitchy and unhelpful (albeit in a funny way - but maybe he just gets tired of having the same argument over and over with people who aren't really listening)

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:16 (nineteen years ago)

For the most part, a scientific consensus exists that suggests that human action can change the environment, and that it probably already has.

Where the real debate lies is in how much human actions versus 'natural' events really change the earth's temperature. On this issue, there is vast disagreement WITHIN the scientific community. And yet, one is not able to disagree on this point without being crucified by the majority of people and by the media.

This is bad because certain scientific research gets discounted, while other research gets too much focus, and we as a community get a distorted view of the entire body of scientific research. As a result, public policy is similarly distorted.

To be very honest I haven't spent much time considering the climate change issue. However, in any scientific hypothesis building exercise, it is NEVER a good idea to be intolerant towards others' opinions without even understanding in what sense they disagree with you. The good professor is allowing irrational bias to seep into his thinking. That is rather unfortunate for someone of the scientific community.

humansuit, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

no yr right he was being rather bitchy and unhelpful (albeit in a funny way - but maybe he just gets tired of having the same argument over and over with people who aren't really listening)

That was it, but he was also a total diva. I think he was totally frustrated w/the univ.'s science department (whose most published/famous prof. wasone of the world's leading cryptozoologists), and didn't want completely headstrong students who would argue generally non-scientific things for hours if given the chance. But as a student noted he was OFTEN POSSIBLY. I like that because it means nothing, but prof was also a semi-cipher; he was truly often possibly.

Abbott, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:55 (nineteen years ago)

Even though I agree with him in concept, that professor sounds like a huge dick.

John Justen, Thursday, 14 June 2007 00:02 (nineteen years ago)

He was a huge dick but somehow endearing. Maybe that was why I liked him. That's pretty much the prototype of everyone I dated until I was 20. "Oh sure, but he's FUNNY."

Abbott, Thursday, 14 June 2007 02:00 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

Microwave Transmissions from Earth orbiting Satellites are causing Global Warming!

http://globalmicrowave.orgfree.com/satellites.htm

http://globalmicrowave.orgfree.com/ALLINONE.jpg

kingfish, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 05:38 (eighteen years ago)

A Common misconception about microwave transmissions is that the transmission is directly beaming straight into the receiving antennae.

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 05:49 (eighteen years ago)

The Convinent Truth

Pillbox, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 05:56 (eighteen years ago)

four months pass...

The debates unnerved both candidates. When he was preparing for them during the Democratic primaries, Obama was recorded saying, "I don't consider this to be a good format for me, which makes me more cautious. I often find myself trapped by the questions and thinking to myself, 'You know, this is a stupid question, but let me … answer it.' So when Brian Williams is asking me about what's a personal thing that you've done [that's green], and I say, you know, 'Well, I planted a bunch of trees.' And he says, 'I'm talking about personal.' What I'm thinking in my head is, 'Well, the truth is, Brian, we can't solve global warming because I f---ing changed light bulbs in my house. It's because of something collective'."

Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Wednesday, 5 November 2008 20:12 (seventeen years ago)

two years pass...

extreme weather in the coming years - houses in motion - destropy the roofs - aaigh

The Golden Vagina Shines for You and Your Lucky Day (Latham Green), Thursday, 25 August 2011 16:45 (fourteen years ago)

five months pass...

http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2012/02/05/419061/will-global-warming-ruin-football-in-the-south/

iatee, Sunday, 5 February 2012 20:30 (fourteen years ago)

I kinda want to make a joke about that but there isn't anything funny enough to offset the loss of football.

Speaking of the south heading south, there are python outbreaks in Florida that are killing ecosystems. The pythons are spreading northward. We might have to start a snake-whacking day

rubber belly hand necker (CaptainLorax), Sunday, 5 February 2012 20:58 (fourteen years ago)

a question about realness from aja

buzza, Sunday, 5 February 2012 21:37 (fourteen years ago)

she is doing kegstands at san francisco state by now, no?

iatee, Sunday, 5 February 2012 21:40 (fourteen years ago)

three months pass...

http://imgur.com/a/AfvGY

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:40 (fourteen years ago)

"ARE YOU A VEGETARIAN? SO WAS HITLER!"

banal like a null (snoball), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:48 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

biw they got the new yrok city ice chucnk!!

The Cheerfull Turtle (Latham Green), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:38 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.ouramazingplanet.com/3195-iceberg-born-greenland.html

The Cheerfull Turtle (Latham Green), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

eight months pass...

This article's made the rounds, the best bits elided.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 April 2013 20:03 (thirteen years ago)

Over the past 15 years air temperatures at the Earth’s surface have been flat while greenhouse-gas emissions have continued to soar.

grrrrrrrrr

this is the very first sentence. i don't know if i can get through this without punching the screen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_0JZRIHFtk

http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-stopped-in-1998.htm

your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Friday, 5 April 2013 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

this is one of those times where the Economist's policy of not printing the author(s) names is really fucking annoying. here's a gem:

Other recent studies, though, paint a different picture. An unpublished report by the Research Council of Norway, a government-funded body, which was compiled by a team led by Terje Berntsen of the University of Oslo, uses a different method from the IPCC’s. It concludes there is a 90% probability that doubling CO₂ emissions will increase temperatures by only 1.2-2.9°C, with the most likely figure being 1.9°C. The top of the study’s range is well below the IPCC’s upper estimates of likely sensitivity.

This study has not been peer-reviewed; it may be unreliable.

let me just go ahead and perform the google search for the author:

HOW SCIENCE WORKS

your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Friday, 5 April 2013 20:16 (thirteen years ago)

it's telling that when trying to come up with some research that backs up what they want to say (aka the opposite process as actual science), that's the best study that they could come up with

your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Friday, 5 April 2013 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

I am always embarassed when I discover colleagues/friends reading the Economist

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 5 April 2013 20:30 (thirteen years ago)

embarrassed even

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 5 April 2013 20:30 (thirteen years ago)

It shows their broadmindedness; they're reading a magazine by European intellectuals.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 April 2013 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

from the beginning paragraph, again:

"And yet, as James Hansen, the head of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, observes, “the five-year mean global temperature has been flat for a decade.”

so this caught my eye. james hansen, of course, is not only the leading climate scientist in the united states, but also pretty well known as an activist. recently he announced his retirement from the government, and one of his stated reasons was that he wanted more freedom to protest the lack of action on climate change in the united states.

so i was interested to see the context that he would have placed around the words “the five-year mean global temperature has been flat for a decade.”, because i'm sure he didn't just say that out of nowhere. but there's no record of him saying that anywhere on the internet, at any time, except in the article. was it a private phone call with the anonymous author(s) of the article, then?

already, in the week since the article came out, the quote has been picked up and puked up all over the internet as evidence that even climate scientists don't believe in climate change now.

what a fucking mess

your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Friday, 5 April 2013 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

this is the very first sentence. i don't know if i can get through this without punching the screen.

lol yes. i was just reading this and coming to ilx all like http://www.lolriot.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Pounding-Keyboard-GIF.gif to say this.

arby's, Friday, 5 April 2013 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

no one who reads and lovingly reposts that piece of shit will ever read this debunking, but here's a good one:

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/04/02/1807771/making-sense-of-climate-sensitivity-how-the-economist-and-msm-keep-getting-it-wrong/

your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Friday, 5 April 2013 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

did you see this paper zs? that quote is from the first paragraph

http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/719139main_2012_GISTEMP_summary.pdf

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Friday, 5 April 2013 20:40 (thirteen years ago)

ah, thanks! google search turned up nothing because in the paper he says "5-year", rather than the "five-year" that's used in the article.

your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Friday, 5 April 2013 20:45 (thirteen years ago)

And even The Economist article hedges its so-called assertions, but don't tell this Mr. Starburst.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 April 2013 20:47 (thirteen years ago)

It shows their broadmindedness; they're reading a magazine by European intellectuals.

lol exactly. I find the thin patina of intellectualism spread across their capitalist apologist politics disgusting, personally.

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 5 April 2013 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

can't count the number of times I've flipped through it to read about some incredibly fucked up stuff going on somewhere but WAIT LOOK AT THE INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE MONEY that it engenders! wow there really are two sides to every story!

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 5 April 2013 20:53 (thirteen years ago)

global warming isn't real because i don't like the economic implications that would be associated with it

Poliopolice, Friday, 5 April 2013 21:09 (thirteen years ago)

sadly, that's it in a nutshell afaict

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Friday, 5 April 2013 22:01 (thirteen years ago)


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