Consumer Consequences Game: How many earths does your lifestyle require

Also all of the NPR hosts who have played the game did way worse than me. lols

4.9 for me. Every category was around 3 until I got to the booze/meat intake section where it would take 8 earths to supply me with enough wine and beer for my BBQ.

4.8 for me.

Yeah, food killed me too: despite having no car and v low shopping habits, I ended at 3.2x -- I use a LOT of non-local food products. But until someone starts making, like, dried pasta in NYC that isn't a luxury product, or grinding wheat for flour, or shit like that, puh-leeze.

Also: DAIRY. MMmmmmmmmm

dried pasta is a luxury product?

I got a 3.7 and it was all because of food for me too!

Yea, I got 2.5, food being the main killer for some reason (I don't eat any meat/dairy, and 80% of my food tends to be organic/local.)

maybe it was the 7 beers/week that did me in?

How many earths would it take to sustain you if you just opened a vein and got it over with? Remember, cemeteries use valuable land.

3.0, but only b/c i am broke and never buy anything. living in CA helps w. buying locally and cuts down on heating bills.

The responsible thing is to take public transportation to the crematorium.

2.2, mostly due to food and because I fly too much for work.

But what if all the beer and wine i drink is local? Hell, i live in city with the highest per capita microbrewery rate on the continent.

But what if all the beer and wine i drink is local?

spacial dispensation

uh... special

oregon? xxpost re: microbrews

sorry portland? ( misread the post)

Max: No, but it would be if it were made locally -- like, from hand. All the storeable things that keep on the shelf are going to be mass-produced and trucked in, like tuna fish, plain pasta, rice and beans (even dried ones!), tomato sauce and canned tomatoes, tea and coffee and flour and sugar and honey -- pretty much everything "normal" that we buy/eat is going to penalize you in this instance.

2.1 - mostly due to food

5.8 :(

Almost entirely because of transportation. And yeah, I drink basically all local beer too.

guess I should take making our own pasta more seriously

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What a bunch of hippie crap. I was going good with a 0.7 until I entered that I drink about 10 cups of coffee a week. Apparently drinking coffee requires the precious mineral resources of 2 earths. Too bad for those granola munchers - this test inspired me to drink more coffee than ever.

are you 73?

them damn tree huggers

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4.3

Mostly due to my long-ass work commute and having to drive for work.

people who refuse to acknowledge or stir their wee brains to consider the backstory on consumer products are the current bane of my existence. Fortunately, there's no limit on the killfile.

How many miles per gallon does your main automobile or motorcycle get?

When did you stop beating your planet?

3.6, which is BULLSHIT because while my apartment might be a little big for me personally it is TOTALLY sustainable and I will beat the person who says it isn't. It's even partially underground so I hardly ever need climate control. Just stink control for whenever it fucking rains.

and yeah eating nothing but cows and their products + drinking all of these beers and giganto coffee cranked that bitch up a lot but THAT'S NOT MY FAULT IT CAME ON A TRUCK. THE COW SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO USE THE TRAIN TOO. I DEMAND A MEATRAIL

ilx out of context

http://www.zimmcomm.biz/images/dairy/cows-showtrain.jpg

Why not ramp up the old cattle-drive tradition again and just walk 'em up from Brazil?

I got like 2.9x mostly due to my poor diet and penchant for drinking beer.

poor cows walking all that way just to be eaten :(((( xp

although it could probably be argued that walking is more humane than amtrak

cows walking around = humane
cows walking from Brazil to my house = p3ta at my doorstep

Also all of the NPR hosts who have played the game did way worse than me. lols

it must be all of the lattes they drink -- everything but my food/drink score was firmly in hippie-territory (the food/drink score was rush limbaugh-esque).

My penchant for importing snowmen from the South Pole in refrigerated 747s has cost me on this poll.

if you've ever been in a window seat on one (or worked as a steward) you'd know that 747s do not need refrigeration

How many miles per gallon does your main automobile or motorcycle get?

I have a really hard time believing I have the highest score so far. Yeah, I drive 12 - 15 miles to work by myself, but I recycle my shit, don't buy a lot, go to the farmer's market, etc.. Maybe it's because I didn't really bother to work out my gas mileage or miles per month and took the averages.

I think almost everyone else posting to this thread almost exclusively use public transit or their own legs to get around.

lol @ no taxicab questions so I get to lie about my monthly mileage (I cab it home from work when I pull my 12 hour thursdays and such)

That is correct. Also how much does the square footage of yr living environment really matter? Giant parts of this country are basically uninhabited based on square footage, certainly we're not suffering from any kind of reasonable over-congestion outside of metro areas.

Now if you climate-controll all that dead air and built it only AFTER the kids moved out, yeah, fuck you. More detail than this survey can handle, tho.

4.7 with an 8 in the food department. "Buying local" is totally, 100% overrated and expensive.

yeah, thanks to the FDA

2.7... Also mostly due to beer.

But hey, if I lived in a crowded commune and grew my own vegan organic food and never went anywhere I didn't walk to, I'd score a 0.6 and require less than 3 acres to sustain myself. I better get busy.

Yeah buying locally from a supermarket is a scam. You gotta glean the fields yourself.

2.6. I have to get to work quickly at lowering the planet's population.

Rev, you should fly your workers back to the island when they are done w/ their sock-making. Help keep the giant B in biz and all.

Please note that I conserve natural gas by leaving the sweatshop unheated in the freezing winter.

I will always choose coffee over The Environment.

Don't be rediculous Jaq, that's what rowboats are for.

(sidenote: why am I not surprised your score is all food?)

The highest I could get it was 35 earths, amp up those plane hours. Eating non-organic imported food in restaurants and ordering triple portions (also drinking a bottle of wine and 10 cups of coffee every day) didn't touch 100 hours/year in first class.

sweet, we only need 34 more then. I see a way forward.

Time for Biospheres 3 through 35

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/71/Ringworld%281stEd%29.jpg

I'm too bit for this planet. I'm on some Jupiter shit, knawmean? I'm at 35 and none of y'all are even at 5? Get on my level.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Spacecolony1.jpg/800px-Spacecolony1.jpg

I read through this whole thread in the time it's taken for it to get halfway through loading. Now I am considering my power consumption.

does it break one of those thermodynamical laws when we grow enough food that we can produce enough biomass/poop to create enough viable soil to grow more food inside a space colony without making the earth itself into a total wasteland

also my next solo project will be titled "biomass/poop" and none of you are allowed to steal that idea

i just made that project

Ain't no environmental disaster been imagined that John Berkey hasn't painted a way out of.

Hydroponics, Brah!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/Bernal_Sphere_2.jpeg/769px-Bernal_Sphere_2.jpeg
look the inside looks kind of like the NPR video game

i got 1s and 2s on everything except for the 10 on my food.

Driving 2500 miles/month apparently eats up a shitload of worlds.

I was at 1-3 everywhere but transpo (17!) and food (six or seven)

Apparently the problem with humans is even in an O'Neill Cylinder in outer space, we'll still be building A-frame houses with shingled roofs.

they didn't ask if my coffee was organic, fair trade, bird friendly etc

I got 4s on trans and food, three on goods and zeros on the others.

kerm seriously dude pass the bong. that last one is a BERNAL SPHERE duh

KIND OF A DIFFERENCE?

Cozier?

I look forward to failing this video game miserably once it loads, given the talk re:coffee and booze.

Bill Murray's distant offspring sent to cover Groundhog Phase of year 3293 on Punxatawny IV vacation colony in charming romantic comedy holo. Age-stabilized Andie MacDowell returns in role as Rita, still smokin' hot in her 17th century.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Internal_view_of_the_Stanford_torus.jpg/800px-Internal_view_of_the_Stanford_torus.jpg

That's Astro-turf, right? I mean, c'mon...

This thing is designed to make you feel bad.

haha, yes. I'm sorry, Greenpeace for being too poor to move away from where I grew up - which requires A/C nine months a year, has no mass transit and where walking isn't much of an option.

If some environmentalists would like to sponsor me, I will happily move to New England or the Pac. NW.

The Environmentalist Movement?
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^^ STANFORD TORUS hell yeah

beer drinking killed my planet

5.1, and pretty much all beer, coffee, and meat related. (my food vote equated to 15 global acres)

I think all of us meat-eating, alcoholic earth-killers should meet up in a small midwestern town and see how long it takes us to turn it into a barren wasteland.

My score was 5.0; apparently recycling everything and not doing a lot of shopping does not make up for drinking 14 cups of coffee a week.

i moved out of saginaw at age 20, so it takes 20 years

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heckuva job you did there, brownie.

sorry everybody.

xp lol

haha seriously, the planet can take a whole lot of beer drinking before it cracks, but no amount of earths can accommodate an Army Corps of Engineers

I drive a hybrid and am veg but I spend about 200 hours a year on airplanes so I'm a planet-consuming monster - also, yes, at least 14 cups of coffee a week, also plenty beer

haha new greenpeace campaign should be sad polar bear with beer drinking dude standing partying beside him

ok that is pretty depressing really

I think all of us meat-eating, alcoholic earth-killers should meet up in a small midwestern town and see how long it takes us to turn it into a barren wasteland.

-- jessie monster, Tuesday, October 23, 2007 7:57 PM (12 minutes ago)

Cool, and we wouldn't even have to rename the Hastings thread.

if I could do my job without airplanes I would but I have to tour so I blame filesharing

soulseek forces me to drink beer

now that oink is gone, england is carbon neutral. Fact.

awesome news kenan!!