What's sexier: The bad boy or the SNAG?

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Alot of guys I know always complain that women always go for the "bad boy" who treats them like crap, even though they say that they want a "Sensitive New Age Guy" who can express their feelings and treat them well. Who do you find sexier?

― Penny Lane, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

brand spanking new answers

― Penny Lane, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Neither.

― rosemary, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i've been thinking baout this, mainly in relation to why the women who are treated like shit by Josh on West Wing all look as if they have major wide-ons in their panties for him. Yet to find an answer though...sorry.

― Queen G, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I go for bad girls, but end up all hurt and broken after they continue being bad girls. Nice girls end up boring me to tears. So I suppose it works both ways really. That doesn't answer anyone's question

― electric sound of jim, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

And how sexy is the Bitchy Miserablist New Age Guy?

― Graham, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I can relate to electric sound. I tend to go for the 'bad boy' expecting things to change, but they never do. So no more bad boys for me - until the next one comes along anyway...

― penny lane, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

oh man why do so many gurls like me? well OK i'll tell you : (a) weak enough to seem "sensitive" & (b) sullen & unfriendly enough to seem "tuff". best o' both worlds!

― duane, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm with Duane on this one.

― electric sound of jim, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm a sarcastic and cynical bastard who likes cuddling, does that help? And you people keep calling me a hippie with no real evidence of this beyond the fact that I have long hair.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I have long hair

hippy.

― electric sound of jim, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

But it could be a mullet and then he wouldn't be a hippy!

― Penny Lane, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"sensitive new age guy" -- jesus to thread!

― geeta, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

But it could be a mullet and then he wouldn't be a hippy!

You are both damned unto perdition.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm sorry Ned but if you insist on having long hair and telling us about it then you have to expect these kinds of comments. How did this thread get so far off the track?

― Penny Lane, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The best of all is the Nice Boy / Nice Girl who TAKES NO SHIT FROM ANYBODY (including you). You can't go wrong with that type

― electric sound of jim, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think that's a rare find though.

― Penny Lane, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ah, but they are around. :-)

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The sensitive guy is my style. Though sometimes I find abusive, masochistic relationships attractive...eh, I haven't met anyone worth while for that.

― jen, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

all look as if they have major wide-ons in their panties for him

major wide-ons... Queen G that is descriptive GENIUS! did you make that up?

― katie, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Queen G did not make it up. It is the common word round these parts for a lady who is poutin down below...

― misterjones, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I couldn't be a bad boy if I tried, but a near-constant stream of smut plus above-average powers of persuasion tends to do it for me, whenever "it" happens, which is seldom.

― Mark C, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Why can't there be a happy medium! The "bad boy" is usually kind of sad and immature yet I do have a lot of friends who are turned on by the fact that he could beat up other guys for her. Ick! Actually a lot of those "sensitive new age guys" are sleazy in disguise. A few months ago Jane did a funny piece on them: I wasn't cheating. I was challenging the patriarchal binds of monogamy. I don't want money. I'd rather subvert the dominant paradigm through world verse. 'And we talked about Rilke, about what a vain, oppressive country America was, and about beauty - her beauty, the world's beauty and how two people, pure in their souls, could love each other instantly. All the while I was thinking, "titties".'

― Evangeline, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

A man who is "mad, bad, and dangerous to know" is a time-honored way for a woman to express her own madness, badness, and dangerousness -- if she claims to have been in love at the time it's a way of claiming temporary insanity for any non-ladylike behavior.

I'm sure that the gender-reversed version of this formula also applies. What about same-sex relationships -- are there stereotypes of wild but exciting versus mild but boring?

I used to go out with a SNAG ages ago, but his clinginess (even more than his music tastes) completely got on my nerves.

― j.lu, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

*insert evil laughter here*

― Deadman, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I do want a guy that can express his feelings and treat me well, but no way could he fall under a name like "Sensitive New Age Guy"... blech. Looking like a little punk rock badass while actually being totally sweet would be a nice combination.

― Sean, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Most sensitive new age guys I know (okay, none that actually fit that description but I think I know what Penny means) actually can't express their feelings at all. Which is why they're so nice.

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i mostly think bad boys are really dumm - like what are you trying to prove? to ME! but on the other hand, i would probably punch someone for giving me flowers. i just like people to be themselves, not strive towards some ridiculous stereotype.

― di, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ah the age old undies man vs action man....

― ducklingmonster, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

[this question is very similar to 'are you a cat person or a dog person']

my definition of bad boy is 'fucked up'. and yes, that is attractive (probably only because i am almost as afraid of love as they are. poor bad boys and their puny mangled hearts roped with scars. they couldn't possibly untangle it all and love you... that's one reason why it's fun, trying to make them.)

no, bad boys can't love you, so now i'm only taking applications from non-cokehead non-own-mother-hating non-lying/cheating boys.

good and boring are two completely different things.

― minna, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

yeah minna's on the money re: good and boring.

― di, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sorry, Duane, but I think it's because you seem intelligent and funny. I have to say that, in my own defense. If it was just 'sensitive' and 'tough' you'd be maybe more like ... lots of people.

― maryann, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

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