Why do we never do FAPs any more like we used to?

Just sayin... I didn't go to an awful lot of them but enjoyed the ones I did attend, particularly punting in Cambridge and drinking in the Foundry in London. Is it just that ILX doesn't get on as well as it did?

Ever so often, I think the same thought.

Anyway, the answer's swine flu, innit

They'd want individual board rooms, thesedays.

There'd only be complaints about the noise from the "I love TMI" room.

Not let in to venue, innit.

Can I ask a technical question? I've figured out by context what y'all mean when you say FAP, but where does that originate? Is it an acronym? Urban Dictionary, uh, wasn't much help.

fancy a pint?

Although now it's become onomatopoeic net slang for masturbation, which is not what we mean.

sounds very dry to be onomatopoeic. surely schflap?

Not let in to venue, innit.

lulz.

but there was a FAP just a few weeks ago..

Ah, thanks.

Yeah I put that much together re: masturbation onomatopoeia. Figured there wasn't some weird underbelly of..getting together to...er. I'd have to suggban all of you is what I'm sayin.

I don't think I'd know what to do at a FAP, I mean I've never met people I "know" from the internet before and I'm awkward enough as it is in normal circumstances.

I meant to say hi to Ned at Terrastock but instead we just o_O'd each other from a distance lol.

FAP London

It's a strange situation. You know everyone's name, but none of the faces.

we managed a new all-time record of five Sydlx0rs in the same pub at one time recently, amazing

What do you look like: April 2009

I don't think I'd know what to do at a FAP, I mean I've never met people I "know" from the internet before and I'm awkward enough as it is in normal circumstances.

^^^^^ 442 etc

I like how when people start threads about FAPs without specifying a location in the title, it's always implied that it's London.

Chicago ILXors have FAPs all the time; we just call it "hanging out."

FAP LATCHFORD!

but this one is a general FAP thread surely?

xpost

I keep thinking that some kind of nu-Scots FAP is in order ... some of the old Glasgow guard (RJG, Ally C) aren't really in evidence here any more, and Nick's fucked off back down south, but there are other, newer Scottish posters, and it's not like myself/Onimo/Ailsa are ever going to say no to beer.

And if Ward Fowler's out there, it'd be good to catch up, dude!

Anyway. Just throwing it out there, like ...

i tried glasgow more a few weeks back! saw lucy a. and almost ailsa but for football commitments

I know, and I was working. (I did make a really shit pun about it on the TGM thread, though.)

^^^^^ 442 etc

Haha ok more dumb questions. What's 442 mean?

Half my time on ILX is spent going 'I think they're referencing a meme...'

it's reverse binary for OTM, there's a thread about it somewhere.

WHY SO SHY FOAX

meeting ppl is fun!

Well, ILX is a broad church, and -- although I personally agree with you -- for many people there's a massive gulf between conversing on screen and conversing F2F. And hellfire, I'm a talkative extrovert of the first order, but I found rocking up at the Drum & Monkey all those years ago and saying: "Hello, are you ILX? I'm Grimly Fiendish" was actually oddly nerve-wracking: the bringing together of virtual and real worlds really hit home.

Five seconds later I was getting pissed up with quality dudes, though, so hey: hurrah.

Haha, agreed, but 1) I'm not that good at it to begin with (probably seems flimsy if you are in the position of being good at it, but anyway) which compounded by 2) small talk's gonna be weird cuz you already know all these details about people from the internet, but you're still getting to know each other face to face, so...like...well basically what I'm getting at is BEEERR

xpost and also what grimly said

Which is why at Terrastock I didn't know how to approach Ned (who was always talking to someone or another he knows), interrupt him/them, thrust out my hand and be all "Hi, I know you from the INTERNET?"

i can imagine that happens to ned, of all people, all the time though.

Yeh, exactly ... and Ned is one of those guys you talk to for five seconds and feel like you've known since you were in short trousers -- I mean that as the highest possible compliment, btw! -- so ... ach well.

Maybe I'm just mega-used to meeting people from the internet (insert yr own joeks here lol) but I find it becomes very natural and personable pretty much from the outset, especially if you greet forcefully enough. One thing I can't really square is how people I've met and gotten on well with IRL have such ridiculous vendettas against each other online.

The next London FAP ought to have more than 4 ppl imo

And yeah, I'm pretty sure Ned and I would get on well, once I stopped consciously trying to mimic his speech patterns ;-)

Everyone knows Ned from the internet. He is an internet personality. He was created from stale muffins an coffee dregs at Well coffee house FAP circa 1986.

as far as London goes most of the core group of fappers from 4-8 years ago aren't really here anymore, moved on etc. and it's probably more to with that lack of a irl friends nucleus than people generally getting on less (kind of a red herring imo).

also there never seem to be Americans visiting anymore ha.

There's probably an argument in here somewhere about how the rise in social media and Facebook in particular has caused a decline in IRL social events actually organised on message boards but I've no idea if it's actually true.

(whoa megaxposts) Yeah, it occurred to me later that the people he was talkin to were also internet people, but y'know. That was later.

I choose Stevem's argument over Matt's tbh.

Louis OTM about internet beef dissolving in IRL situations, I imagine.

lol no comment

Louis did you every read Gravity's Rainbow in three days like I challenged you to that time?

(Other thing that weirds me out is I wind up knowing people's real names apart form their sn's, even people I've had little/no interaction with, and I always feel weird both using and not using them. Damn I'm a bundle of nerves, huh.)

lol no comment

― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, April 30, 2009 1:11 AM (59 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Has there been an incident??

POX FAP!

This is a great thread.

t's probably more to with that lack of a irl friends nucleus than people generally getting on less (kind of a red herring imo)

OTM.

also there never seem to be Americans visiting anymore ha

Also OTM, oddly.

t's probably more to with that lack of a irl friends nucleus than people generally getting on less (kind of a red herring imo)

It's also a matter of people getting to know each other IRL so well they don't need an internet message board to organise going out for a beer. I suppose this happens in any group where the friendships themselves become stronger than the initial context for those friendships.

Well, I can't entirely comment, as I haven't seen many beefers in the same room together, but in terms of people who have maybe beefed un petit peu with me I've done pretty well. If for instance I told you a certain controversially-permabanned ILX bully/aggravator/bigdog was actually pleasant company IRL, would any of you believe me? Or if I told you that many of his antagonisers/antagonised were similarly interesting and relatable? IRL beef has occurred at FAPs but they've been isolated incidents.

Dammit Matt I knew that'd come back to haunt me. On the plus side, it's still lying around unread so I could yet take up your challenge...wait for April to expire tho' cause I've got writing projects with a May 1 deadline innit

Matt is the one ILXor I have random impromptu sighted fwiw, I probably acted like a huge arse with it being 11.30 pm post-drinks train home and all

I don't remember you acting like an arse. We mostly talked about football. I did spend quite a lot of time taking the piss out of you because you were being picked up by your dad though.

If for instance I told you a certain controversially-permabanned ILX bully/aggravator/bigdog was actually pleasant company IRL, would any of you believe me?

Yes, absolutely!

Most people who are horrible on the internet tend to be fine in person, it's an ancient rule of the web or something. That said just because I like two people separately doesn't mean they're going to get on with one another.

I'd be up for a London fap post-june/july when my degree ends and I have time to actually do things again.

IT GOT REALLY EXPENSIVE TO GO THERE, which is why all you lot came HERE, remember??

Mm. This is why my plans to go to London this summer have fallen through for now.

I've met exactly 2 people who post here in real life, and knew both of them long before ILX ever existed. Me living in the middle of nowhere factors into this quite heavily.

If for instance I told you a certain controversially-permabanned ILX bully/aggravator/bigdog was actually pleasant company IRL, would any of you believe me?

Didn't see who posted this originally, and I thought it was Kenan talking about JW.

I, honestly, made a reasonable effort to FAP in Londontown. There is a thread somewhere that documented it, if you don't believe me.

we managed a new all-time record of five Sydlx0rs in the same pub at one time recently, amazing

― Bostin' Legal (sic), Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:20 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

this was cool, wd def FAP again, even tho i never actually post to ILX - its too much effort

also there never seem to be Americans visiting anymore ha.

oh this reminds me, I'm coming back to London in May

yeah, kinda shrug.gif at Ms. Laurel upthread. My rt airfare to London was less than $280 from SF and the pound sterling was at a 10 year low versus the mighty US dollar.

Don't think I didn't show Dover Street Market who was boss... I'm talking first-name-basis by trip-end.

Hang on, I thought the UK was cheap as chips to visit now that the exchange rate is mince. (x-p)

Yeah, I haven't checked lately. Was supposed to go to Popkins & JenPB's little party last year and had to flake b/c the prices were slightly insane. But maybe is because I did not buy my tix like 6 mos in advance?

. If for instance I told you a certain controversially-permabanned ILX bully/aggravator/bigdog was actually pleasant company IRL, would any of you believe me?

I thought there was photographic evidence of this defining moment, but I can't find it now. On one of the WDYLL threads I think. Everyone looked kinda happy.

Yeah, I remember seeing that. Brighton, was it?

I'll suggest the best Glasgow FAP was when we unintentionally took over the Alpen Lodge and then the jukebox played awesome records all night without us putting any money in. I seem to remember that was the night everyone kept touching onimo, and people shook hands with RJG for too long just so he would say "let go".

that was the night everyone kept touching onimo

Sadly, I am hearing this in my head to the tune of "The Night The Lights Went Down in Georgia"

and all the people were singin'

I seem to remember that was the night everyone kept touching onimo, and people shook hands with RJG for too long just so he would say "let go"

Was this the night I turned up late, with some non-ILX mates, when everyone except Onimo had left? And dragged him to the Republic bier hall thing, where he developed a magnificent second wind and we sat drinking for another couple of happy hours?

(It might be difficult for you to answer that, of course, given that if it was, you'd left, and if it wasn't ... you wouldn't know. BUT STILL.)

but we can't say "OTM"

― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 14:06 (2 hours ago) Permalink

I say this as joek to roommate on occasion and then we get embarrassed.

I'll def try an make a point to say somethin next time, Ned!

Good on yer.

Was this the night I turned up late, with some non-ILX mates, when everyone except Onimo had left?

I think that was a different time because I'm sure F drove back from that one, and I remember you texting me while I was on the train on the one you're thinking of.

i'll fap again i think.

i don't think i have noticed people people all that different IRL than online tbh, but maybe i'm just experienced online and know the difference between being silly buggers and nasty.

if i fap again i think i'll miss the ability to superimpose russian football players onto things though maybe i'll bring some cut-outs.

actually. time to revive the ATP thread.

I'm fairly sure that was a different night also, grimly, because I'm faily sure myself and onimo drunkenly stumbled onto the last-ish train home the night of Alpen Lodge FAP. Think you might be thinking of one of the Christmas ones, which was also Alpen Lodge based (I'm assuming I wasn't there, because there's no way there was a FAP and I wasn't the last one to leave and miss out on extra drinking time I am far too good a friend to leave onimo drinking on his own, selfless soul that I am).

I am sorry I missed you last time you were here Ken, onimo and I were going to pop in for a quick pint on the way back from the football, but you'd removed yourself from easy access to the train back home.

Ailsa: check your Facebook messages if you've not already done so, btw!

Have just checked. Cheers.

don't fucking touch me

^ setting yourself up there again, mate.

let's get druuuunk and fap

why does kanye say hen fap in golddigger?

wrong order. have achieved former now tho xp

MPLS/STPL still does this thing

have also achieved former

I say OTM IRL all the time TBH

^i say loool irl, haitch can verify

he's all about dat

Haha yeah didnt you and haitch spend most of last FAP (er well, my birthday) talking about donks?

that and dfa 12"

MelbFAPs have been frekwent in the past, inc visits from Mookieproof and from DonutBeeyotch, and we used to hang with AndrewNF a bit (where's he these days?).

Apparently people get too drunk to be let into pubs anymore though ;P

haha it was more the belligerence than the drunkenness

I wouldve been worse I'm sure. Put drunk me in front of a bouncer saying "youre not coming in here" and I turn into a jaegerbomb bogan :/

i had photo taken laid down in a gutter in front of donut and tim finney

correlation between that and tim not coming to more recent faps? high, i'm assuming!!

Ha I still have those photos of you and Brian in the discarded pram!

i remember a random FAP in edinburgh and then there was some fiasco involving grimly and me having the same coat and lots of running.

That was Alex and Keith's, er, club night, wasn't it? Jesus wept, I was drunk. (I seem to remember I was hammered when I turned up, but I've no idea what I'd been up to beforehand. "Drinking" seems as good a guess as any.)

Anyway, yeh: two short-arsed dudes with similar coats (though Ken's was much nicer) ... it was bound to cause confusion. Still, having Stet ring me half an hour after I'd left, saying: "What coat are you wearing?" a lot while I stood eating chips outside the Royal Bank of Scotland and slowly realising that none of the stuff in my jacket pocket was mine ... surreal times.

A good night, though. I think.

Did you also go "Hang on, this is not my mobile" ?

i just remember talking a lot of shit that night

Did you also go "Hang on, this is not my mobile" ?

Ha! No: I always keep my mobile in my trouser pocket. Then again, there's every chance that Stet rang me on Ken's mobile and I hoiked it out of the coat without thinking. Jesus wept, I feel pissed just thinking about that.

(xp) Typical FAP then?

* ducks *

haha totally

Typical FAP then?

fixed

fap fap fap?