Keith Allen!

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Not, I should note, posted in celebration or appreciation. Indeed, this is a thread -- inspired by an IM discussion yesterday where a bunch of us were trying to explain to Brian why Keith Allen deserves unmitigated abuse. It can be for his 'comedy,' it can be for his 'acting,' it can be on grounds of evil lechery for persuaded Julie Sawalha to accept his embrace, it can be for his horrible cameo on "World In Motion" (or at least the one mix of it), it can be for everything Fat Les did aside from "Vindaloo," and it can be for that as well!

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 13 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It can also be for supporting Fulham, if that's something that matters to you.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1270000/images/ _1271817_allen_300.jpg

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 13 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I was born in New Zealand. Is it as boring as I remember?

― chris sallis, Saturday, 13 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

At least I wasn't the only one who thought "Vindaloo" was just crass. (Oh sure, it was supposed to be, but still....)

Tis a relief to know that I'm not the only one who wants to give Keith Allen the chop!

Course, I'm dying to know what Brian had to say to all this....if you lot couldn't persuade him, I'll gladly give it a shot.

― Nichole Graham, Sunday, 14 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yes, let the world be united in the universal truth of the rubness of keith allen.

― jel --, Sunday, 14 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Keith: "All I know is, and this is going to sound boardering on the New Age mystic, that when I was five, I felt good 'cos I was the most popular person in school. Then I was eleven, I was probably the hardest geezer in school. The i was fifteen, I was the biggest cunt in the school. I knew at a very early age, not where sucess lay, but where you were all right. I was famous when I was ten, for fuck's sake. I mean, if you're famous at school, you're more famous the Robert De Niro. You're much more famous. And once you know that, a lot of the other fame is, I'm not saying meaningless, but at least you know what it means to yourself."

And now he's a professional New Order groupie and Brit Art hanger on. Oh well.

― DavidM, Sunday, 14 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

story i discovered when i was working on a history of the ica three years ago, but cd not verify so had to omit:

he and his brother (kevin?) when they were the most famous radical lefties of 1971 got into an argt w. the director of the ICA abt art and politics, and one of the brothers hit this director on the nose, and blood splashed onto the white wall

ica = institute for ontemporary art, so someone put a picture frame round the bloodsplash and it stayed like that for years

― mark s, Sunday, 14 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I know this isn't a C/D thread, but C for Gino: Full Story and Pics.

― Michael Jones, Sunday, 14 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I called him a cunt at Glastonbury 98. He was standing outside a Land Rover which had, apparently, had Vindaloo on repeat for the best part of half an hour. So I told him to fuck off and stop obsessing over his own song. In retrospect this wasn't probably the best of ideas...

Vindaloo was dreadful, too.

― Matt DC, Sunday, 14 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh God. He was at all the Venice Biennale stuff last year and because he was with Damien Hirst, had to be let in to all the private views and parties. And did the most boorish thing you can possibly do there, which is to chuck someone into a canal.

― suzy, Sunday, 14 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, in many ways he is a horrible luvvie arse, but his early C4 show 'Whatever You Want' had its moments (tho' it prob. looks rub now), and the time that he totally lost his rag on some live Late Show blabfest abt 'the nature of comedy' was truly electrifying, because it didn't seem staged or pre-meditated.

― Andrew L, Sunday, 14 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Keith Allen's biggest crimes probably emerge from his days in the Comic Strip. Especially that one where the middle class art student and the working class football hooligan swap brains. Watch that, and realise why they 80s were the worst thing ever.

― Dom Passantino, Sunday, 14 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

THE FAMOUS AUSTRALIAN COMEDY BROTHERS: KEITH ALLEN AND HIS BROTHER.

― RJG, Sunday, 14 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

For 'biggest crimes' read 'saving grace'. You refer to The Yob, which *was* pretty rubbish (it was a video director and a hooligan who swap). But, again, I say Gino. Which might well have dated terribly, but not in my head.

― Michael Jones, Sunday, 14 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Come on, Damien Hirst has to have some drinking buddy who is so badly behaved that it makes him look good by comparison...

― kate, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Horrible, horrible sight of Keith Allen at Glastonbury hosting some kareoke thing, shrieking in an offensively bad Welsh accent and wearing a pea green shellsuit, the trousers of which kept falling down. I have now seen all Keiith Allen has to offer. I am traumatised.

― Anna, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ewww. Reading about that has made me come over all nauseous.

― RickyT, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

As long as he doesn't turn out to be Sex Boots Dread (is that right Tim)?

― Sarah, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

this thread has tremendous TASH potential!!

― mark s, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh fuck we're all doomed.

― RickyT, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'll back Mike on 80s things - quelle surprise.

But I strongly dislike KA, so Mr Raggett and I can publicly agree for a second time in history.

― the pinefox, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dear god! If it happens a third time, is that the signal for Armageddon?

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ten years pass...

Hmm.

Anyway...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18855311

Taking drugs on TV, so you don't have to. or something..

― Mark G, Monday, 16 July 2012 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

Keith Allen's Breakfast Pirate Radio from 1982.

UK ilxors of a certain advanced age may remember this getting passed around a lot throughout the 80s. I got given a 4th-gen cassette of this in about 1989 with no idea who was responsible or where the hell it came from. It's pretty far out but there are many quite funny bits and also lots of material that no-one would dare touch these days.

― everything, Monday, 16 July 2012 19:40 (thirteen years ago)

Ah great.

I saw Gerry Arkwright one time but not heard this.

will hear later

― Mark G, Monday, 16 July 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

The only thing I really dislike about Game of Thrones is Alfie Allen being in it has reminded me that Keith Allen still exists.

― LISTEN TO THIS BRAD (Nicole), Monday, 16 July 2012 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

Mark, who is Gerry Arkwright? For 20+ years I took it at face value or thought it was likely just a wacky one-off comedian ala Ted Chippington who just disappeared. Now I realize it is Keith Allen doing a character. Or am I wrong? Did Keith Allen do this character live? Is that the only song he recorded?

Also, despite slag-offs upthread for his New Order and Vindaloo material no-one remembers the excellent thing he did with Black Grape & Strummer for Euro '96?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvuqgyKj5iM&noredirect=1

― everything, Monday, 16 July 2012 21:49 (thirteen years ago)

He did it live, yes. I don't remember any song.

― Mark G, Monday, 16 July 2012 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

also: Ah, Ted Chippington. True story, that.

― Mark G, Monday, 16 July 2012 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

The song I'm talking about forms the backbone of the Arkwright material on the Breakfast Pirate Radio recordings. It's called "Northern Industrial Gay" and is lyrically like a offensively disturbed version of Orgasm Addict, set to a low budget country backing.

― everything, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 01:43 (thirteen years ago)

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