I've set up a test site on Tripod (ignore the ads) to show off what I've done nu-ILX. It's mostly complete- a few things don't quite work yet (webmail, some user settings, it does very little to check what people enter, ect), but most things look like how they will work.
But I want you to whinge about every detail, if there's anything you want changed or added, or anything I kept that you wanted change SAY SO (Be especially harsh on wording and terminology). Just be really, really fucking nitpicky, OK?
― Graham, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Improvements:
is tripod php slow? i don't even recall tripod doing PHP leave alone whichevr variety of SQL! -- certainly not when I joined. i'll just go and have a play on my server now...
― Alan T, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
It looks really good ( well a lot like this one)
I like the way you can write a message and still see the entire thread.
I will give more comments once I have used it a bit more
Thanks Graham.
― Davel, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
(i'm confused abt whether these are two options we will have to choose between, or two HEROES OF ILX working on the same project but difft continents...)
― mark s, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― RickyT, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― michael, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― katie, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Jeff W, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― didyousee etc, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
OH No! I broke it :-/
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Two things, though: you say that emails are hidden if you are not logged in, but that wasn't the case, at least for me. More importantly, I think, there are a number of dead ends in standard navigation paths where we get to otherwise blank pages with "Poster Added", "Poster Info Changed", "Logged In" or "Message Added" (the ones I found in a quick play). A short message and a redirect (usually to the Boards level, but refreshing the thread to which you have just posted is a very good idea in that case) might be better, or a popped-up alert for you to acknowledge while the same happens, or something like that - there are lots of design options here, but these "what do I do next? How do I get anywhere?" dead ends are bad.
I haven't tried from more than one machine (I'll try to have a look from work tomorrow) but I want to be able to log in easily from wherever I am. I don't mind at all entering a password once per session, to help cut a lot of abuses.
― Martin Skidmore, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Alan: PHP and MySQL, and it does seem to be a bit slow.
Mark S: What I've written will probable be put up on Andrew's server when it's finished, and I'll add ILE<->ILM links.
RickyT: That top bit does need redesigning.
Add New Board should be users only, but I hadn't got that far when I programmed it.
I'll do something about the message added/login pages, they're very unfinished right now.
Automatic line breaks are definitely doable.
I don't get the problem with cookies, you should be able to login (and save cookies) on as many computers and browsers as you like. Maybe you're using the Register link again instead of the Login link?
Video Hits: Classic or Dud(Chupa-Cabras)
― Chupa-Cabras, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
(I'll ring you tomorrow, BTW)
― Nichole Graham, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dean Air, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
The rubbish confirmation pages are linked to me not having done much work on checking what people enter i.e. the scripts that insert message ect are v.v. simple.
― di, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
New improvements:
- Rearranged page titles- New Answers page now has subheadings for dates- Added links between ILE and ILM- Changed "short username" references to "Login name"- Basic automatic line breaks - one break becomes <BR>, two become
- Add new board now available only to registered users (I like the idea of people being able to start their own adjunct/clique/ect, but I suppose if P**dle Support Group or someone turns up, we tell them to off)- Email addresses are now checked for an @ symbol, mainly for people confused by me swapping over the fields to a more logical (?) order- Success/failure pages are still rub - no autodirects, links ect, yet.
parse error, expecting `','' or `';'' in boards.php on line 41
However you are awesome for doing this whether I get to see it or not
― John Darnielle, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
(two line breaks become <P>, if you don't get the, erm literal demonstration)
I've implemented yahoo style address hiding for people who aren't logged in (dtcd@b...). Do people like it?
― Mark, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
DOES ANYBODY IN THIS BITCH KNOW WHEN WE'RE MOVING?
― Alan T, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― michael, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― DG, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
(lez/wanker feature is gone now)
― Graham, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
(wanker)
"VARCHAR and the BLOB and TEXT types are variable-length types, for which the storage requirements depend on the actual length of column values (represented by L in the preceding table), rather than on the type's maximum possible size."
The manual makes a lot references to which version things changed in, and it doesn't mention anything here, so they must have fixed this a very long time ago.
― Sterling Clover, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Martin Skidmore, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Graham, Sunday, 28 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ron, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― michael, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Can i please request a log-out function for this? some sites don't have this and it makes it a pain for people like me that access ILE from home and also public/school/work/other peoples' computers quite a lot.
― petra jane, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Petra: You'll ba pleased to hear there's already a log out link on every page.
― Graham, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
To be clear, if you're logged in you won't be asked for your password. I supposse that's pretty obvious really.
― Martin Skidmore, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ron, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
We need to choose a domain name.
― Graham, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Martin Skidmore, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Is there an easy way to do a table join (I'm not sure if that's what it's even called) without losing the records in the first table that don't have a corresponding entry in the second? eg I want the left hand side of the result to be the contents of the first table, and the right hand side to be either the corresponding entry from the second table, or blank. Is this doable?
― Graham, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
SELECT c.catid, c.name, count(*) as count FROM categories c, threads t WHERE c.catid=t.catid GROUP BY t.catid
― RickyT, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
SELECT c.catid, c.name,t.catid,if(isnull(t.catid),0,count(*)) as count FROM categories c LEFT JOIN threads t ON c.catid=t.catid group by t.catid,c.catid
Thankyou!
Well?
― Graham (graham), Friday, 27 September 2002 12:17 (twenty-three years ago)
― ron (ron), Friday, 27 September 2002 13:28 (twenty-three years ago)
― Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 27 September 2002 13:37 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 September 2002 13:42 (twenty-three years ago)
― ron (ron), Saturday, 28 September 2002 16:52 (twenty-three years ago)
― Graham (graham), Saturday, 28 September 2002 18:05 (twenty-three years ago)
― lyra (lyra), Saturday, 28 September 2002 18:13 (twenty-three years ago)
― Graham (graham), Saturday, 28 September 2002 18:13 (twenty-three years ago)
― lyra (lyra), Saturday, 28 September 2002 18:14 (twenty-three years ago)
― Graham (graham), Saturday, 28 September 2002 18:14 (twenty-three years ago)
― lyra (lyra), Saturday, 28 September 2002 18:18 (twenty-three years ago)
What, is he going to start demanding our money?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 28 September 2002 20:06 (twenty-three years ago)
they are still on the other page
can they come back?
― ron (ron), Sunday, 6 October 2002 15:46 (twenty-three years ago)
― Graham (graham), Sunday, 6 October 2002 19:02 (twenty-three years ago)
― ron (ron), Sunday, 10 November 2002 02:22 (twenty-three years ago)
― Graham (graham), Sunday, 10 November 2002 19:51 (twenty-three years ago)
― ron (ron), Sunday, 10 November 2002 21:32 (twenty-three years ago)
― Rebecca (reb), Monday, 11 November 2002 01:04 (twenty-three years ago)
(reb - A: Because you're trying to be helpful?)
― Graham (graham), Monday, 11 November 2002 10:54 (twenty-three years ago)
Unfortunately, this means I get a lot of "this page has expired" messages of late also - e.g. on thread 'n', post message --> success screen, click on "view 'n'" link --> back to thread 'n', hit back button <-- page expired message. I guess I should only go forwards when on ILX from now on!>
― zebedee, Monday, 11 November 2002 11:33 (twenty-three years ago)
― Graham (graham), Monday, 11 November 2002 11:44 (twenty-three years ago)
― ron (ron), Monday, 11 November 2002 15:28 (twenty-three years ago)
― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 11 November 2002 16:24 (twenty-three years ago)
(Steve: probably a ilxor.com/ilx.wh3rd.net problem, I think Tom probably links to both)
― Graham (graham), Monday, 18 November 2002 12:25 (twenty-three years ago)
Thanks for this, Graham!
― Dom Passantino, Sunday, 9 December 2007 18:01 (eighteen years ago)