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Following Martin Skidmore's grammar post below, which preposition if any is correct?? In the UK, people say different from, (or sometimes to...which I'm sure is wrong) & in America it's than. Then it struck me: 'different' is simply an adjective, not a comparative like 'bigger', 'better' etc., so they must all be wrong. Can someone please put me out of my misery...

Jez, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Check out the excellent alt.usage.english FAQ

Alan Trewartha, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)


"different to", "different than"

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"Different from" is the construction that no one will object to. "Different to" is fairly common informally in the U.K., but rare in the U.S. "Different than" is sometimes used to avoid the cumbersome "different from that which", etc. (e.g., "a very different Pamela than I used to leave all company and pleasure for" -- Samuel Richardson). Some U.S. speakers use "different than" exclusively. Some people have insisted on "different from" on the grounds that "from" is required after "to differ". But Fowler points out that there are many other adjectives that do not conform to the construction of their parent verbs (e.g., "accords with", but "according to"; "derogates from", but "derogatory to").

The Collins Cobuild Bank of English shows choice of preposition after "different" to be distributed as follows:

"from" "to" "than" ----- ---- ------ U.K. writing 87.6 10.8 1.5 U.K. speech 68.8 27.3 3.9 U.S. writing 92.7 0.3 7.0 U.S. speech 69.3 0.6 30.1

Alan Trewartha, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Thanks Alan - that's superb.

Jez, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm a supporter of 'from', except (as it says) where it gets horribly clumsy, in which case I can tolerate 'than'. I can't see any good at all in ever using 'to'.

Martin Skidmore, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The only thing I find odd is that fact that it's simple an adjective, not a comparative...so how can it take a preposition? Maybe it should only be used as a verb: to differ (from).

Jez, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

as it says in the FAQ it's an adjective that derives from a verb. "should"? *shudder*

Alan Trewartha, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oops, sorry I hope the 'should' thing wasn't taken the wrong way. By the way, Something else crossed my mind while I was in the shower - please correct me if I'm wrong: the letter 'k' at the start of a word is only used, in English, to imply a hard consonant where the letter 'c' would be soft. In short, it seems to work like a cedilla in reverse.

There's no wonder I hardly get any work done...

Jez, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What, as in "know"? Why not "cowtow" (not English originally, true)? So why "kit" but not "kat" (except in Krazy, obv)?

Martin Skidmore, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

OK - 'kn' excepted...kat isn't a word; I can't think of any genuine English words beginning with the letter k which are followed by a, o or u (ie the vowels which harden the letter c).

Btw, apologies if I've been a pain in the arse; it really wasn't my intention. Maybe I should stick to the music posts ;0)

Cheers

Jez

Jez, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)


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