Debian is truly the best GNU/Linux

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I love never having to dick to get new packages to install.

― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 00:31 (twenty-three years ago)

who do you usually have to dick if you use redhat?

― Josh (Josh), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 01:48 (twenty-three years ago)

redhat default isntall really creeps me out with all that open port jibber jabber

― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 02:12 (twenty-three years ago)

you have to dick MR T?!?

― Josh (Josh), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 02:13 (twenty-three years ago)

please no GNU/Linux talk, i get enough of that here at work

(i work here): http://www.positive-internet.com

but not for much longer!

― blueski, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 12:09 (twenty-three years ago)

I LIEK TEH OPENBSD!

― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 12:16 (twenty-three years ago)

I think it's clear by now that this is a mr t thread blueski

― Josh (Josh), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 14:03 (twenty-three years ago)

OpenBSD is absolutely horrible and terrible and nasty and I hate it.

― Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 14:26 (twenty-three years ago)

anything must be better than Solaris though

― michael (michael), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 15:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Yea, Solaris is an RPC daemon hell worse than Red Hat. So sketchy.

OpenBSD isn't as pretty as Debian, etc. for its packaging or rc.d stuff.

But it works for crazy firewalling right out of the box! But having to use cvs to fix bugs sucks.

― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 15:27 (twenty-three years ago)

shuddup fool!

― blueski, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 15:36 (twenty-three years ago)

I PITY THE FOOL WHO DON'T CALL IT "GNU/LINUX". RMS GET TOUGH ON YO ASS!

― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 15:37 (twenty-three years ago)

eight months pass...

REVIVE!!!!
!

Right! I now have a BEAST that is running Debian. Paul says it is also a GNOME. I do not understand. But what I do know is that I have just downloaded an experiemental "package" hur hur of SCRABBLE and er... now I don't know how to make it GO. WHat do I do?

Paul said something about "sudo". I typed "sudo scrabble".

That did not help.

HELP ME OH GEEKS!!!

― Sarah (starry), Friday, 13 June 2003 09:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes ok I realise how much of a twat this makes me but still HELP.

― Sarah (starry), Friday, 13 June 2003 09:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh. It is several hours later. I have done some reading. I now know what sudo means. Also APT-GET (it doesn't work) and DPKG which does work and EXEC hoorah hoorah.

The Scrabble game I must sa though is not as advanced as I was expecting (ie I imagine I could program it given a month or so). But still. Waahey.

― Sarah (starry), Friday, 13 June 2003 10:57 (twenty-two years ago)

um, I think the problem exists between user and keyboard.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 13 June 2003 11:56 (twenty-two years ago)

The Debian is an old favorite. But, gentoo is my new God.

Online scrabble is much fun.

― Dale the Merciless (cprek), Friday, 13 June 2003 12:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Gentoo is gay.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 13 June 2003 12:26 (twenty-two years ago)

haha!

― Dale the Merciless (cprek), Friday, 13 June 2003 12:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Seriously, there's no reason that 90% of Linux users need to compile everything themselves. Emerge doesn't teach you much about how stuff works either.

And it reminds me of F*scher Sp**ner.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 13 June 2003 12:31 (twenty-two years ago)

remember, you can't use most UNIX commands in scrabble.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 13 June 2003 13:09 (twenty-two years ago)

or grebt

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 13 June 2003 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)

i really think slackware is the best distro going. i downloaded a gentoo install image but the install procedure was so unnecessarily complicated that i just wrote "Why Bother?" on the cd-r in black pen and hid it in my desk.

slackware has a great installer (if you're not fussed with with pretty pictures) and it's maintained by *one* guy who selects his packages very carefully. i've been able to get the leanest, cleanest install ever by using slackware. no bloat. at one point i was doing two-three slackware installs a day and it's never a pain.

add to that the ultra-fantastic and always bleeding edge dropline gnome (a gnome distro unique to slackware -- includes gorgeous font rendering out-of-the-box among other things). it's now completely optimized for i686 and so if you add that to slackware's optimizations it's really the quickest and prettiest gnu/linux going.

― fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Friday, 13 June 2003 15:48 (twenty-two years ago)

slackware's package system sucks. oh well

otherwise i love it

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 13 June 2003 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm getting thee old shop computer soon, and I'm planning to upgrade it (new motherboard, process0r, hd, more memory) and using it as a linux b0x!! I was looking at getting SuSE professional to put into it b/c it comes with roesgarden and audacity on the disc. does anyone use this?

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 13 June 2003 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Fuck SuSe

DEBIAN!!!

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 13 June 2003 18:16 (twenty-two years ago)

slackware's package system sucks. oh well

i've found pkgtool to be quite good ... why no love?

i would NOT suggest using linux for audio production. in theory you can push the latency of your soundcard VERY low by patching your (2.4.x series) kernel with the appropriate patches thereby making the soundcard more responsive than either a windows or mac box, but it's not the easiest thing in the world to do. even basic audio production on linux can involve monkeying with things like ALSA drivers, JACK (the function of which is in all honesty beyond my comprehension) toolkits (audacity uses something called wxWindows in the background, and in my experience any of these cross-platform toolkits can be a real fucking pain, rosegarden uses some of the KDE libraries which further complicates the installation and maintenance of your system).

to be fair it's likely suse will handle all these package dependencies and what-not FOR you (and IIRC suse uses the ALSA drivers by default) so you stand a good chance of getting it running in some capacity, but if it ever stops working you might just be hooped.

― fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Friday, 13 June 2003 18:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Yea, Linux sucks for pro audio mostly

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 13 June 2003 19:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, well, I'm not a pro. I can't afford cubase on its own, let alone sound forge, 1000000000000 vst synth/fx plugins, and just about everybody i know wh uses w4r3z gets nowt done b/c they keep fucking stuff up. these guys i used to work with had all thee cr4x0r3d radium vers of every windows audio app, and THEY KEPT FUKCING UP ALL THE TIME. i eventually stopped working w/them, because i got sick ov losing work all the time. the way i see it, if it doesn't work out, i've still got a powerful blank pc, i can install ~~microsoft linux pro for windows 8.2~~ w!n xp, and save up for cubase, (shrugs) what's to lose? I still have my atari and my hard disc recorder anyway.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 13 June 2003 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)

why not! could be a great learning experience!

― fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Friday, 13 June 2003 19:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, the low-latency patch with the latest and greatest kernel is quite easy. The patch is included in 2.4.20 (should be up to date on most dists), and all you have to do is a make xconfig and look for it under processor type and features to turn it on. Salmon's OTM. Installing ALSA from scratch is a pain in the ass, but I believe demudi (The debian music distribution) does ALSA by default. I've never worked with demudi myself, but it's probably your best bet if you want to do music stuff. It includes all the audio software that I have no clue how to use.

― Dale the Merciless (cprek), Friday, 13 June 2003 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)

ergo jon's debian=tops assertion is actually true. ak!

― fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Friday, 13 June 2003 20:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Just checked, and apparently there's a rehmudi distro that's aiming for the same thing but based off of redhat if that floats your boat. Both are part of the AGNULA (A GNU/Linux Audio) project.

― Dale the Merciless (cprek), Friday, 13 June 2003 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I do keep checking the agnula page, but they don't update it very often. the reason i ws looking at suse professional 8.2 is that is has the audio apps built-in, and does alsa as well.

http://www.suse.co.uk/uk/private/products/suse_linux/i386/multimedia.html

there seems to be a bunch ov fancy soft-synths included too, but i already have synthesisers, and effects. All I really want is to be able to record midi and audio in the same app. Rosegarden looks like it will do this really well.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 13 June 2003 20:37 (twenty-two years ago)

>Right! I now have a BEAST that is running Debian.
>Paul says it is also a GNOME.
>I do not understand

debian is the distribution, gnome is the window manager.

i started with mandrake 7.0 because that was what was on the front of the first magazine i bought. worked fine, so i've stayed with it.

that said, the new suse has mainactor bundled with it (video editing, which i do quite a lot of) so i'm tempted by that. that said, it'd probably be easier and cheaper to just buy mainactor.

> I'm getting thee old shop computer soon, and I'm planning to
> upgrade it (new motherboard, process0r, hd, more memory)

so, basically, you're just keeping the box? 8)

andy

― koogs (koogs), Friday, 13 June 2003 22:44 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...

next linux desktop:
http://www.freedesktop.org/~davidr/xgl-demo1.xvid.avi

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 21:11 (twenty years ago)

most impressive, but i do hope you can turn all that shit off 8)

(the one problem i can see is the spotty nature of opengl support on linux. nvidia only do binary drivers, ati drivers don't support newest cards...) (couldn't get the nvidia drivers working on my mandrake box due to some missing kernel header files. now boot into gentoo distro if i'm writing opengl stuff)

― koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 11:19 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

what are our favo(u)rite distributions for late summer and early winter 07?

― Filey Camp, Thursday, 6 September 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

Still Debian.

― caek, Thursday, 6 September 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

running Debian/Kubuntu

― kingfish, Thursday, 6 September 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

The one I mostly use is Knoppix but I don't use Linux much/at all :/

― Will M., Thursday, 6 September 2007 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

three years pass...

anyone tried the new ubuntu (11.04) ?

just installed it and the windows manager is, well, different

also mildly revolted by the use of the word "Apps" everywhere

― tpp, Monday, 2 May 2011 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

unity is ugly as shit and unusable imo

would be better on a touchscreen tho

― diamonddave85, Monday, 2 May 2011 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

there's some Unity talk, none of it positive, on the I'd Like to use linux buttttt.... thread

I'd like to use Linux but...

― koogs, Monday, 2 May 2011 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

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