Irrational Bloody Women

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This is the shite we get in our newpapers in response to the Labour Party's new target of ensuring women comprise at least 40 per cent of candidates in winnable seats:

HEADLINE: Labor spellbound

BYLINE: Andrew Bolt

BODY:
Study after study shows that women tend to be more irrational than men. Why, then, does the ALP insist on a dangerous stacking of parliamentary benches with the sillier sex?

HERE'S one thing Labor did not dare discuss yesterday before deciding to shoehorn more women into Parliament.

Would having more women as politicians ensure Labor made more rational decisions, or less? Could passing a rule to reserve 40 per cent of Labor's safer seats for women in fact force on Labor a bunch of politicians who are too New Age?

I know, these are kamikaze questions. And that's probably why so many Labor men fell over themselves to back the new quotas for women at Labor's special rules conference on the weekend, rather than have their guts for Joan Kirner's garters.

Look at all the Labor premiers who quickly caved in to the quotas demanded by Kirner, a former premier herself and now head of the Emily's List lobby group for Left-wing women.

Victoria's Steve Bracks, Queensland's Peter Beattie and South Australia's Mike Rann -- and, of course, federal Opposition leader Simon Crean -- all backed the 40 per cent quota with huge squeaks, rather than defend the principle that ministers should be picked on their talent, not their genitals.

You probably don't need reminding why such quotas are sexist, or why they could lead to relatively ungifted women being chosen, given so many talented women, particularly mothers, actually prefer not to have full-on careers or buck-stops-here jobs.

But there's another factor we should consider, too, before deciding that putting more women in power must be better.

At this stage, cold sweat is running down my back.

So before I go on, let me say -- hoping for mercy -- that my mother worked, my wife works and my finger-wagging four-year-old daughter seems all set to become a High Court judge. And I'd love that.

I also know of women who have made great political leaders (Margaret Thatcher), great scientists (Marie Curie) and great columnists, too, for that matter (Peggy Noonan).

But it's also blindingly obvious that the long-repressed suspicions of many men have been spot on -- women are more likely to act irrationally. Statistics now confirm it. And do we really need more irrational politicians in charge?

Please don't hit me before I've shown you the evidence -- although it's evidence that shows no evidence will save me. Women will still beat me up, because my argument feels wrong.

A leading expert on witches, Canada's Professor Kathryn Morris, tells us that at least 75 per cent of witches in the past were women. The supernatural has always appealed to women more than to men.

A S it does today. Only last month, for instance, an Adelaide University study found that 60 per cent of Australian women -- but "only" 44 per cent of men -- now use alternative therapies.

It said women just loved herbs, oils, crystals, acupuncture, burning leaves, ginseng and eye of newt -- so much so that this country now spends four times more on this muck than it does on pharmaceuticals.

Newt wrong with that, you might say. Except for this: Unlike conventional medicines, these New Age therapies have never been proven to work, and users don't demand proof, either.

We're talking faith here, you see. Not reason.

Around the world, you'll find similar irrationality -- particularly among women.

In the United States, for instance, the New England Journal of Medicine reported a 1997 survey which showed nearly half the women in America used alternative therapies, but that only a third of the men did so.

A poll in Canada that year showed women there were also more likely than men to reach for the ylang ylang, the incense or the yoga mat.

And in all the studies I've mentioned -- and this is scary -- the better educated the women (and men), the more they turned to irrational therapies.

Heavens, we've even had the highly educated women of the Women's Electoral Lobby decorate their website in what they called "Wiccan pagan goddess-based colour symbolism". But don't think the greater tendency of women to act irrationally is shown only by their deeper faith in alternative medicine.

F OR example, the British Journal of Psychology in 1997 said women reported paranormal experiences more often than did men, which is what the Sociological Analysis journal had already noted in 1992.

I could sandpaper your eyeballs with gritty lists of more journals and studies to prove my point, but all the proof you probably need is at your local newsagent.

Just open the pages of New Idea, say, or some other popular women's mag, and see all the horoscopes and the pages of ads for astrologers, clairvoyants, feng shui experts and channellers who can put you in touch with your dead dog.

Now pick up any men's magazine. See anything like the same obsession with the paranormal?

Or check the shelves of a local bookshop. You'll find a book like Marina Laker's Spells for Teenage Witches, containing cures for period cramps, but no how-to manuals for teenage wizards. It's a girl thing, you see.

Case closed, I think. Pick a woman, and you run a comparatively higher risk that you've got yourself a superstitious New Ager, which is precisely the conclusion of a fascinating study last year by two Swedish researchers -- Lennart Sjoberg of the Stockholm School of Economics and Anders af Wahlberg of Uppsala University.

And what can we expect from a New Age politician?

These Swedes, having reviewed studies from around the world, tell us: New Agers are more prone to "wishful thinking", "seeing a cause where there is none", "faulty observation" and a "belief in what (they) see and feel".

More dangerously, they'll tend to show a "scepticism toward modern science and technology" and an irrational fear of useful things like nuclear power and genetically engineered crops.

And stand by. We're getting more and more female New Agers. Just check our latest census, which found the number of witches in Australia jumped more than four-fold in just six years.

YES, I know Joan Kirner would probably argue that such silly women would clearly not become ministers under her quotas.

Many women are perfectly rational (can I come home now, honey?), and certainly more so than some of the men who've hogged Labor's top jobs. I'm thinking here of Paul Keating, for instance, and Gough Whitlam.

And yet I can't help but notice that an old Labor colleague of Kirner's, former state MP Jean McLean, has studied witchcraft for years and has cast a spell to make the Bracks Government win the next election. And that Kate Carnell quit as Chief Minister of the ACT after advice from her clairvoyant.

All cute, of course, but should Labor increase the risk of inflicting on us more politicians with this kind of New Age irrationality?

For one thing, we've had enough ministers practise voodoo economics and do vanishing tricks with our money, without Labor putting a real witch in charge.

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toraneko (toraneko), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 04:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Grrr.

toraneko (toraneko), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 04:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Why, then, does the ALP insist on a dangerous stacking of parliamentary benches with the sillier sex?

!!!!

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 04:21 (twenty-three years ago)

was this published in, like, a newspaper newspaper, not some conservative muckrag?

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 04:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Just open the pages of New Idea, say, or some other popular women's mag, and see all the horoscopes and the pages of ads for astrologers, clairvoyants, feng shui experts and channellers who can put you in touch with your dead dog.

Now pick up any men's magazine. See anything like the same obsession with the paranormal?

Erm, besides gravity-defying breasts?

Jody Beth Rosen, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 04:35 (twenty-three years ago)

The Herald Sun, the biggest selling newspaper in Australia, is the voice of Melbourne and Victoria.

More than 1.5 million Victorians turn to the Herald Sun each day.

toraneko (toraneko), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 04:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Quoted from their website.

toraneko (toraneko), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 04:38 (twenty-three years ago)

this thread makes me sad in my heart.

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 04:41 (twenty-three years ago)

is this a joke page toraneko?
i certainly hope so.
one valid point about putting people in 'power' because of 'their talent not their genitals' is the only thing in this i could see that wasnt really something i would take as a tongue- in- cheek totally bullshit article.

donna (donna), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 04:42 (twenty-three years ago)

in fact im so pissed off with it now ive had a minute im going to write to the herald sun. ( im a naturopath too so now im mad about the crap this person wrote about alternative therapies as well as the rest )

donna (donna), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 04:43 (twenty-three years ago)

I used to love reading men's magazines.

They have all this great advice for how to pick up women, like

(SPOILER SPACE)

"Deliberately say something insulting or provocative to get her angry. In her angry state she will become confused and unable to differentiate her anger from feelings that her subconscious may interpret as attraction to you."

felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 04:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Porn or Ralph etc (no more than nipples) type?

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 04:47 (twenty-three years ago)

oh yeah hey lets all watch us get irrational over this article.
ok i will stop now before i get confused.

donna (donna), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 04:48 (twenty-three years ago)

"Deliberately say something insulting or provocative to get her angry. In her angry state she will become confused and unable to differentiate her anger from feelings that her subconscious may interpret as attraction to you."

I'm suddenly feeling very attracted to ILx.

Jody Beth Rosen, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 04:49 (twenty-three years ago)

No-one with so much has half a brain takes anything in the Herald Scum seriously, except for maybe the Comics page.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 05:05 (twenty-three years ago)

So Much As rather than so much has

The real problem is all of the people with less than half a brain that DO take it seriously.....

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 05:06 (twenty-three years ago)

Quotas are an interesting issue. But there's no way I'm stepping in front of this guy's target.

bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 05:13 (twenty-three years ago)

im too irrational to have more than half my brain functioning at any given time.

donna (donna), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 05:14 (twenty-three years ago)

but that's half of 100%, as opposed to half of < 50%

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 05:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Geez I'm not half talking shite today

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 05:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Jim, you are sounding confused and IRRATIONAL. Are you sure you're not secretly a girl? Or a hack newspaper columnist?

petra jane (petra jane), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 06:59 (twenty-three years ago)

hmmmm... the former is rather more likely than the latter, which is odd.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 07:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Rationality is actually pretty damn overrated, anyway. And since when are non-rational and irrational synonyms?

Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 07:31 (twenty-three years ago)

YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE WANTED TO KILL THIS GUY. I WANT HIM TO DIE. DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE.

A really nasty piece of work, this Andrew Bolt. He's always prepared to just lie and lie. It's absolutely revolting.

Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 08:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Am I right in assuming the Herald Sun in a Murdoch owned paper?

Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 08:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Yep.

Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 09:29 (twenty-three years ago)

My little bruv is a reporter there.

toraneko (toraneko), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 10:09 (twenty-three years ago)

A cub reporter? (I love that phrase)

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 10:13 (twenty-three years ago)

that article is unmitigated tosh. And the proposed strategy doesn't seem to be a strict use of quotas - ie 50% of mps must be women - but a more defensible thing along the lines of 40% of candidates should be women - each seat is still a 'fair' contest right?

isadora, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 18:37 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm still back on "the sillier sex".

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 18:53 (twenty-three years ago)

i can't actually be mad at that because i'm busy being amused that it got published at all.

Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 20:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Interesting display of his own 'rational' capabilities wrt 'witches'.
I mean, given that 90% (say) of violent crime is committed by men - isn't it terrifying to think that our governments are so overwhelmingly run by violent criminals ?

What an ARSE.

Ray M (rdmanston), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 23:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Andrew Bolt is the one of the more loathsome men alive, yes, and the article was total rubbish. At Monash Uni I helped make a newspaper parody called the "Herald Scum" which actually had a mock Andrew Bolt article in it. Now whenever I see his real stuff (and half the other crap in the Herald Sun) I momentarily wonder if I'm looking at another parody edition.

I once saw Andrew Bolt participate in a Hypothetical re: refugees and he refused to talk about some of the scenarios that were thrown up because "that would never happen in real life." (!!!)

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 11:54 (twenty-three years ago)

It's great, the way he glosses over the "male" halves of the following statistics--60% of Australian women and 1/2 of American women pursue alternative therapy, while only 44% of Australian and 1/3 of American men do...44% and 1/3 are still pretty big numbers. Why doesn't this make men silly, too, per his definition?

And why would a Wiccan be any less capable of rational, intelligent thought than a Christian, Muslim, Jew, etc? (Though I'd guess that a large number of the female Wiccans he's basing this argument on are teenage girls, who aren't exactly eligible for political office, anyway.)

This is appalling. But luckily too ridiculous to be taken seriously.

nory (nory), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 13:14 (twenty-three years ago)

I think that a column against minimum representation for women that includes among its arguments "A leading expert on witches, Canada's Professor Kathryn Morris, tells us that at least 75 per cent of witches in the past were women" is very classic indeed, but not remotely in the way that moron would like. And by the way, what proportion of wizards, warlocks and mages were women?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 20:24 (twenty-three years ago)

I was wondering about that gender-confused 25%...

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 20:37 (twenty-three years ago)

You can be a male witch! It's like being a male brownie.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 10 October 2002 10:38 (twenty-three years ago)

You can be a male brownie?

nory (nory), Thursday, 10 October 2002 12:24 (twenty-three years ago)

hello, I've been a male brownie all my life

chris (chris), Thursday, 10 October 2002 12:29 (twenty-three years ago)

I was a Warlock for a while, but I got kicked out. Besides some SF band has the same name.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 10 October 2002 12:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Male Brownie sounds like a band name.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 10 October 2002 13:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Wicca is very misunderstood. That article made me laugh.

alix (alix), Thursday, 10 October 2002 14:58 (twenty-three years ago)

I think the world should be run by rational people, (i.e. men) like George Bush, Sadam Hussein and the guy who wrote this article. No..hang on...wait a minute..I just need to think this through

Sofa King Alternative (Sofa King Alternative), Friday, 11 October 2002 11:45 (twenty-three years ago)

I realise there are male witches (I'm guessing the other 25%) but some people who might have been called witches if female were called warlocks or wizards if male. I'm suggesting that the counting methods might be flawed.

Obviously it is an utterly mentalist argument anyway, so this is rather moot.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 11 October 2002 11:47 (twenty-three years ago)

That was my point, Martin: "male witch" = "warlock" (= "different word from 'witch'")

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 11 October 2002 13:24 (twenty-three years ago)

NO - that's like saying 'male brownie' = 'cub scout'. It need not be so!

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 11 October 2002 13:32 (twenty-three years ago)

I was disagreeing with Nick rather than Dan. He's right that it needn't be, but we're right that it does often work that way.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 11 October 2002 20:16 (twenty-three years ago)

(haha I knew that honest)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 11 October 2002 20:45 (twenty-three years ago)


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