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Playgroup's Party-Mix Vol.1, reviewed by me.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 14:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Might as well plug my interview with Trevor Jackson. heh.

nathalie (nathalie), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 14:30 (twenty-three years ago)

This sounds fantastic, is it available generally Tom or is it a bootleg?

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 14:54 (twenty-three years ago)

It's "promo only not for sale" but I bought mine in Fopp.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 14:56 (twenty-three years ago)

good, insightful stuff, Tom. I've been playing it a lot myself; I might like it better than the "real" album or the DJ Kicks.

M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 15:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This is good! My weekend makes a lot more sense now...

alext (alext), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 15:49 (twenty-three years ago)

aw he stole MY idea ;)

sounds fabulous tho - was it a live mix? cant be legit as clearing that many tracks used would be impossible (as Soulwax found) - how does it compare to Gimix and 2 Many DJ's?

Tom i will gladly trade you a copy of this Playgroup mix for the Boom Selection comp (or at least the best of the 3 discs tacked onto 1)...sounds like its gonna be hard to come by

blueski, Wednesday, 30 October 2002 16:08 (twenty-three years ago)

tom, it's great as always, but i assume the best compliment i can give you is probably the reason lowest on the list of why you write: it made me really want to buy this record. (except i will probably not be able to find it. bastard.)

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 16:10 (twenty-three years ago)

I dont know if its live. The actual mixing is bloody awful sometimes. It's not legit but Fopp had stacks and I've seen it for sale online.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 16:33 (twenty-three years ago)

What Alex said, and two more things:

1. his skill isn't in mixing but in selecting: with so many records to play, I wouldn't have been able to resist inserting something entirely inappropriate (George Jones, or the Execution Squodd, or one of several other things I heard that night which seemed to fit together brilliantly to me) and wrecking the whole thing.

2. Ruin.

Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 16:43 (twenty-three years ago)

if his mixing is shocking then i doubt i'll bother looking for it. i like the idea of it, though, as with "intro-inspection" it's the decontextualisation that matters.

michael wells (michael w.), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 16:50 (twenty-three years ago)

I'll get my brother to buy it and copy it for me. I liked this article Tom, the personal touch at the start was more informal than I'm used to and it kind of works for the type of record it is aswell. I like Playgroup alot.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 16:56 (twenty-three years ago)

This sounds ace - I have seen this thing in various shops and sort of ignored it. Must get it now!
Great article - the conjuction of fantastic music, silly music, friends and alcohol is, well, everything really.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 16:59 (twenty-three years ago)

the mixing cant be that bad surely, if so it must be live and a consequence of the ambitiousness of the mix rather than Jackson's own mixing ability (i figure he's quite good, but i suppose the DJ Kicks thing may not have been entirely a live mix either - hard to tell)

blueski, Wednesday, 30 October 2002 17:32 (twenty-three years ago)

(except i will probably not be able to find it. bastard.)

I ordered one from Other Music (othermusic.com) a week or two ago. They should have some.

scott pl. (scott pl.), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 18:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Heh, the bit at the beginning was perfect, actually: drunk and making-people-listen-to-singles is the one context in which all songs should come in at under a minute.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 18:29 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm listening to this right now, having picked it up at Other Music while in NYC last week (they had 2 more in the bin, I gotta assume they have more "in the back" too). Tom does a great job describing the listening experience. Although it of course won't, I wish this could end the flood of comps... I mean, where else can it go from here??

I'd be VERY surprised if this was a live mix... the changes just come WAY too quick. If it is, man oh man, more power to Trevor Jackson.

So, anyone seen a tracklisting anywhere?

Aaron W, Monday, 4 November 2002 16:25 (twenty-three years ago)

I've been contemplating trying to make a tracklist; God knows it'd make up the best '80s-revival club night playlist (for about seven weeks running w/o repeating anything) imaginable

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 4 November 2002 19:13 (twenty-three years ago)

There are a few songs I really want identified actually. I'll try and get timings and descriptions next time I play it.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 4 November 2002 19:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Just found a streaming audio version of the Party Mix CD...

http://source.astralwerks.com/playgroup/sites_sounds.html

Think between us we could come up with a tracklist? There's definitely not any out there on the web and I'm dying to have a few tracks ID'ed as well.

Aaron W, Wednesday, 13 November 2002 22:59 (twenty-three years ago)

The whole thing is currently up on FilePile (at a ludicrously low kbps rate mind you)

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 14 November 2002 13:06 (twenty-three years ago)

as is the new lcd soundsystem. not that anyone cared.

stirmonster, Thursday, 14 November 2002 13:14 (twenty-three years ago)

I cared!! I'm not sure I like it much though, too much punk and not enough post.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 14 November 2002 13:19 (twenty-three years ago)

tom, please take this as the compliment i mean it as, but yr review is 10X better than this record so far (14.37 in.)

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 14 November 2002 22:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Well all my reviews come with the usual warning attached!

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 14 November 2002 22:18 (twenty-three years ago)

I think you need to be drunk to enjoy this mix...

Well here it is, finally something I could mention on that 'Disappointed' thread. I probably wouldn't have demanded someone buy the CD for me were it not for Tom's grebt article. I think part of the reason why I don't much care for the mix is in the article too - Tom says it's all the best bits from your own record collection. Well it's not my record collection. The recognition factor isn't there for me (I know maybe 40-50 per cent of the tunes?). Now, I've been carrying a lot of "the 80s were shite" baggage around with me in the last ten years. But I thought I was getting over it, thanks to the current 80s revival and in particular the nu electro scene, which has helped me (re)discover lots of the original stuff. And I really really like Jackson's DJ Kicks mix. And goddammit I do love a lot of 80s chart pop, and based on Tom's comments was expecting to find it all over this mix, but there's not nearly enough of it! In short, I question the consensus upthread about the track selection.

I also don't think much of the mix as a listening experience. I have no problem with the idea of playing only short snippets of each track (and I love e.g. the long version of Intro-inspection) but it has to lead somewhere. To be fair, there seems to be an attempt to "build", ie to start slowly and then gradually up the tempo to reach some sort of 'peak' - about 30 minutes in there's one section where it really starts to get going at last - but the second half hour meanders badly and it just fizzles out at the end.

Heh, I'd still love to see a full tracklist tho' - I obviously have some gaping holes in my early hip hop collection...

Jeff W (Jeff W), Monday, 18 November 2002 14:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Hmmm...I listened to this in t'Rough Trade shop over the weekend and didn't think much of it, aesthetically. The "recognition" factor doesn't bother me but the lack of imaginative architecture puts me off. "2 Many DJs" isn't necessarily "my" record collection (though I've got most of what's in it) but as a piece of get up and dance madly around your living room-type thing it works fantastically.

In truth I am still waiting for the spare copy of DJ Kicks which Nath promised me aeons ago grrr! ;-)

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 18 November 2002 15:04 (twenty-three years ago)

I know Marcello. :-( I am such a slackah.

nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 18 November 2002 15:14 (twenty-three years ago)

I will be listening to this tonight, brother made me a copy. (incidentally he bought it after reading your review Tom)

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 18 November 2002 19:59 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...
I think it's fantastic. I've got a 320kbps version on Ssk if anyone's interested. And is a tracklisting of the songs floating around anywhere?

Ian SPACK, Wednesday, 1 January 2003 20:28 (twenty-three years ago)

There's not a tracklisting out there that I've seen. I proposed that ILM do one collectively, but the idea just sort of.........

I think there was also something on his webpage saying no he doesn't have a tracklisting but when someone does one they'll get a small prize and, more importantly, the respect of everyone. heh.

Aaron W, Thursday, 2 January 2003 00:54 (twenty-three years ago)

that was supposed to happen with 'Intro Inspection' as well, pah

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 2 January 2003 00:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Shall we attempt one here? I'm afraid I'll be petty useless as I only recognise about 30 or so of the samples. I suppose the first move is to split the mix into the 200-odd sections, anyone got the patience to do this?

Ian SPACK, Thursday, 2 January 2003 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I might have the patience to do it... I'll be shit at identifying most of them as well but at least I can set up a matrix for people to fill in the blanks... by the end of the week.

Aaron W, Thursday, 2 January 2003 16:18 (twenty-three years ago)

first out is Beside ft Fab 5 freddy - change the beat 12" on celluloid
the it´s The message with Grandmaster flash, sugar hill u know.
Kraftwerk - trans europe express

Jens (brighter), Friday, 3 January 2003 09:09 (twenty-three years ago)

spoonie g
malcolm mclaren - buffalo girls
grace jones - pull up to my bumper (i think
indeep - last night a dj saved my life
blondie - the rapture
chic - good times

Jens (brighter), Friday, 3 January 2003 11:30 (twenty-three years ago)

six months pass...
I have the tracklisting, of course not integral but a 70% of tracks If someone interesting mail me.........

Oliver, Tuesday, 22 July 2003 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...
I'm sad dat nobody still talk about that beauty piece of musikhistory.
900000000000 hours listened and still so many tracks to discover....
respect to Trevor ...

Oliver (Oliver), Saturday, 27 September 2003 22:47 (twenty-two years ago)

seven months pass...
I'm still trying to find a track list for this.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Sunday, 2 May 2004 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)


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