can someone tell me everything they know about metro area please ?

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last week and so ace !

piscesboy, Saturday, 7 December 2002 13:52 (twenty-three years ago)

*it's * so ace that's meant to say.

piscesboy, Saturday, 7 December 2002 13:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Andy Kellerman should be able to fill us in. The full length album is really good, I can tell you that.

Mark (MarkR), Saturday, 7 December 2002 16:01 (twenty-three years ago)

dark electric disco with good percussion; live (either DJing or not) they are v v good

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 7 December 2002 17:05 (twenty-three years ago)

You think of them as dark?

Mark (MarkR), Saturday, 7 December 2002 17:23 (twenty-three years ago)

You have to be able to stomach a very persistent Eighties disco / R&B vibe, I'd say... For info, you might want to learn a bit of German....

JoB (JoB), Saturday, 7 December 2002 17:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Mark Richarderson is right to say that the album is really good. It does help if you like late '70s/early '80s disco and R&B and certain elements of techno and house as well. I was surprised to see it listed as one of Rolling Stone's top 50 records of the year.

(You'll p'bly find scattered ILM info through the search function.)

(They've also been in all the dance mags the last couple months.)

(Will say more later?)

Andy K (Andy K), Saturday, 7 December 2002 18:13 (twenty-three years ago)

when is saw them they definitely played some crazy-happy stars-on-45 style disco goof-offs but the were mixing it in with more clangy insistent rekkid pulsations too. also the place I saw them was ill-lit and shifty. (i missed them at PS1 which i heard was a stunner of a show, it was outside on a hot sunny day in Queens and they apparently had live instruments an all)

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 7 December 2002 23:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Saw them open for Interpol, they were pretty good, in fact better than Interpol who threw a fit and hid backstage until 1:20 a.m. I didn't really get the disco out of it though--maybe it was just the particular show, but they weren't as dance-y as I usually think disco is.

webcrack (music=crack), Saturday, 7 December 2002 23:24 (twenty-three years ago)

webcrack, did you see Interpol in Detroit? If so, that was Midwest Product you saw and not Metro Area. (I seem to recall Interpol not going on 'til later than the usual late Magic Stick time.)

Tracer -- Stars on 45?

Andy K (Andy K), Sunday, 8 December 2002 00:29 (twenty-three years ago)

i'm underwhelmed. it's like a u-had-to-be-there nostalgia band

bob zemko (bob), Sunday, 8 December 2002 00:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Aha--good call, Andy K. It was indeed Midwest Product, I am not too familiar with either and have gotten them confused, so please ignore my previous post.

webcrack (music=crack), Sunday, 8 December 2002 01:04 (twenty-three years ago)

To me they sound like a much more balanced meeting of techno and disco than most are suggesting here. If I was gonna invent a dumb genre name, I would call it 'microdisco': the chunky basslines and sweeping strings (which I would guess come more from Darshan Jesrani) are muted and introverted, so to speak, by the classic Detroit synth washes and assorted bleeps and micro-edits (which I would guess come more from Morgan Geist). Or vice versa: the minor key melancholy of techno gets a welcome boost of funk and emotion from disco.

In other words, a great dance-not-dance album. Would be interested to hear them do some vocals tho.

Ben Williams, Sunday, 8 December 2002 01:41 (twenty-three years ago)

One thing that has always been apparent to me is that Metro Area have never been concerned with re-creation. If they borrow, it's for a blip and not an entire track. At the other end of the spectrum, you have Blaze, who sometimes attempt to sound exactly like Earth, Wind and Fire (and usually succeed at it). If I can put it into ILM-ese somehow, MA are a bit like Saint Etienne with the vast knowledge of history -- only MA are a lot more sly about allowing their own fascinations to bubble to the surface. And those fascinations are less familiar with the average fan (Patrick Adams vs. Joe Meek, Leroy Burgess vs. Brian Wilson).

Darshan's definitely had a lot to do with Morgan's own obsession with disco, and you definitely can't take the techno out of Morgan since that's where he's coming from. (The Driving Memoirs, from '97, is a phenomenal techno record with so many ideas and sounds; his 12"s on Metamorphic and Environ have some thrilling moments too.) So Ben makes a good point that the disco/techno meeting point is much closer to halfway than a lot of people make it. Admittedly, I am much more excited by hearing a buried reference to some old Emergency 12" than a Transmat 12".

In a loose sense, Metro Area are a realization of what would've happened if early techno producers had allowed for disco and boogie (Logg, Taana Gardner, D-Train, Cloud One) to seep into their work more than the usual suspects (Kraftwerk, Ultravox, CV). Yet, they have their ways of extracting themselves from obvious points of reference. Part of their charm for me is the sense of space they create in their tracks while including so many elements -- they do this on a level that no one else can touch. Another great aspect is how their tracks are so musical/melodic that you can often forget they're instrumentals.

As far as vocals are considered, that could happen down the road. I asked Morgan if he'd ever consider working with people like Burgess, Jocelyn Brown, Christine Wiltshire, etc, and he said he'd rather find some new freaky voice. He brought up Is It All Over My Face, and how hardly anyone can tell you who that is -- he'd rather have it work out that way. I do like what they did with the vocals on Miura (that's Dei Lewison, daughter of Kleeer's Woody Cunningham, btw). However, I'd also like to hear something in the full-blown verse-chorus-verse vein.

Andy K (Andy K), Sunday, 8 December 2002 03:24 (twenty-three years ago)

"if early techno producers had allowed for disco and boogie (Logg, Taana Gardner, D-Train, Cloud One) to seep into their work more than the usual suspects"

But Derrick May always sounds so disco to me. And Kevin Saunderson drew pretty obviously from it, via house. Detroit is a lot more varied than either the purists or the haters would have you believe.

Ben Williams, Monday, 9 December 2002 01:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Ben, you're right, but I think Metro Area do it more so. Which doesn't make their stuff better (what I love about a lot of Detroit stuff is how the disco elements are at once obvious and yet totally transmogrified into something else eg. robots doing latin dances in a future metropolis) but does make it a distinctive and interesting fusion.

Also Metro Area tracks are generally slower than most techno.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 9 December 2002 01:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh totally. I am not saying they are Detroit clones at all.

Ben Williams, Monday, 9 December 2002 15:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, no doubt -- Saunderson, May and several other early techno producers have extremely strong ties to disco and are obviously descendents of disco. It's just that Metro Area's elements are much closer to the form, and even more specifically the boogie offshoot -- the average tempo, the beat programming, the live instrumentation (strings, guitar, flute). MA's tracks generally sound a lot closer to Barely Breaking Even, Heartbeat, and Disco Circus than anything from those two.

Andy K (Andy K), Monday, 9 December 2002 17:07 (twenty-three years ago)


I love Metro Area for these reasons, though I am puzzled as to how they have avoided charges of being a) retro (or barring that) b)too tasteful.

Probably also important to consider Daniel Wang's friendship and working relationship with Morgan Geist.

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 05:39 (twenty-three years ago)

has everyone heard the Metro Area remix of Central Living - "Inside" on Naked Music's Carte Blanche 3? I luvit.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 21:22 (twenty-three years ago)

It definitely improved the original.

Apparently there's a DFA remix of MA's Orange Alert making the rounds. Anyone heard it?

Andy K (Andy K), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 21:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh that Miura track is absolutely brilliant, such a groove.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 21:33 (twenty-three years ago)

a) retro (or barring that) b)too tasteful

if and when my metro area review ever goes up, i do (kinda, sorta) take them to task for this, but i forgive them, in the end, because the music is so lovely.

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 22:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Jess I think that is absolutely the best way to do it, as long as the forgiveness is as well documented as the discipline session.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 23:29 (twenty-three years ago)

(i def spend more time talking about what makes them great rather than retro-fetish)

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 23:59 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm starting to think ignorance of the 80s is a good thing with stuff like this.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 12 December 2002 12:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Metro Area - have been voted best album of 2002 - by DJ magazine.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 13 December 2002 16:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Really? I think the album's a little overrated, individual tracks are great but it starts to cloy after a while. It's definitely guilty of being too tasteful, I can't help thinking of the mall's background music in Vice City.

Mike (mratford), Saturday, 14 December 2002 10:14 (twenty-three years ago)

I bought it the other day and didn't enjoy it at all. Will try again.

Tom (Groke), Saturday, 14 December 2002 10:26 (twenty-three years ago)

I want it now, Miura is some track.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 14 December 2002 15:34 (twenty-three years ago)


Mike, that's not what I meant by too tasteful.

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 15 December 2002 11:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Ronan - Is Miura a Metro Arena track or an individual tune on a mix album? I ask because I'm still trying to track down that tune Jacques Lu Cont played with the Shakedown sample, and this has confused me.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 19 December 2002 11:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Weird, on the DJ Hell comp there's a track called Miura and it's down as being by Metro Area. It's really minimal and has a sort of disco teletubby going "eh-oh eh-oh" every now and again

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 19 December 2002 12:04 (twenty-three years ago)

that *is* "miura" by metro area.

michael wells (michael w.), Thursday, 19 December 2002 12:21 (twenty-three years ago)

its a funny track, the opera snippet i'm indifferent to but i really like the break where the harmonised male voices drop in...and i can see Shakedown going with that really well....goddamit i've got to try and get to Fabric tomorrow night to see Jacques, but its looking less and less likely :(

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 19 December 2002 12:26 (twenty-three years ago)

this is as good a place as any to thank ronan for making me buy that dj hell cd. i haven't even got on to cd2 yet, but i love cd1. and yes, miura is beautiful.

minna (minna), Friday, 20 December 2002 03:45 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
Old ILM was smart!

AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

isn't everybody on this thread still on ilm every day??

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

or are we just more stupider now?

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

*cough*

AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I just like this good natured, informative and thoughtful style of posting. Where did it go?

Those were the days!

AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

The dance threads were better in 02. Stronger and less mongy.

I went to see Etienne De Crecy/Alex Gopher the week of that thread, I went alone but met some friends there. It was the only night I ever heard a DJ play "Too Long" by Daft Punk in a club.

Afterwards I went to a party in this guys house with 2 friends of mine who knew him. His girlfriend had left the key in the inside side of the door and he couldn't open it. She wouldn't wake up from knocking so eventually he climbed a palm tree in the garden. But when he got to the top he couldn't reach her window to knock so he instructed us to start swinging it.

Of course just as he knocked and she opened the window, it made a massive crack and broke. I couldn't stop laughing.

We brought the tree into the house to make it up to her.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

by that thread, I mean *this* thread

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

re: miura and opera snippet and harmonized male vocals...it's actually singing recorded by MA, sampled and played in harmony on the keyboard, only one vocalist, Dei Lewison, who also appears on a Brennan Green 12" on Balihu and now records with a guy named Zach Layton on laptop as Kassette. I saw her at a BBQ recently and she told me she's been talking to Bruno from the Homosexuals. It's a strange, strange world we live in.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Someone tell me about the new Metro Area tracks that Ronan and JoB have both mentioned.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 17 June 2004 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Listening to the s/t album now, and, yes, Metro Area are the shizz. I would love to hear these new tracks.

Clarke B. (Clarke B.), Thursday, 17 June 2004 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.discogs.com/release/257005

These?

AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:34 (twenty-one years ago)

nerves - reminds me of the kelly polar quintet tracks. lots of perky percussion, spoons and castanets and shakers and things, stately string swoops, piano. it's a slow-to-mid tempo disco track ... sort of expected, really.

proton candy - starts out with electro pulses, then drops in some electro cowbell, shakers, handclaps and the "la rock 01" drum kit. then, instead of turning into an italo anthem, he quickly swerves into detroit synthwork (deepest shade of techno style). at about two minutes these thick layers of basic channel echo and hiss threaten to overwhelm the track but rapidly disperse and the italo-corny main theme is restated. the detroit synths come back in, dissolve into the same echoey haze and we're abruptly back to italo (again). some frustrated off-key synth bashing introduces a long "disco circus" breakdown, where the different percussive bits vie for attention over weird bass noodling. finally the split personalities of the track are reconciled at the end with the help of envelope filters which smooth out the transition between the two themes.

"proton candy" is a super-epic track, it reminds me of "timecode" for some reason that i can't put into words but i think it's actually better.

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:48 (twenty-one years ago)

i guess it boils down to the way they let their pulsing moroder sequences slowly spread and decay into deep, vacant spaces that stop just at the edge of becoming dub house.

there's an odd jazz-funk edge to the track too. on reflection maybe the main bit is less italo and more "theme from barney miller".

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Proton Candy is unbelievably good.

Mad props to the Jersey Devil Social Club record as well, especially the third segment of Homage at 121.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i like proton candy, it has such a nice sound to it

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 17 June 2004 12:49 (twenty-one years ago)

haha i just looked at the kompakt thread and realized i compared proton candy to timecode about three weeks ago and said i liked "timecode" better ... well i guess "timecode" didn't really stick with me.

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 17 June 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

i am still totally baffled by the (extent of the) love for "timecode"

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)

but the new metro area is grrrrrrreat.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
I like "Timecode." I am hearing Metro Area for (I believe) the first time right now, and oh man, is this good.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 December 2005 06:28 (twenty years ago)


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