Non-Manhattan music venues in 1981

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https://www.nytimes.com/1981/11/27/arts/rock-action-in-the-suburbs-draws-even-manhattanites.html

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 23:19 (one year ago)

Hoping TSF will weigh in.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 23:28 (one year ago)

Found that because of something I remembered about WPIX-FM.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 23:28 (one year ago)

Related to this: https://gearspace.com/board/remote-possibilities-in-recording-amp-production/22331-remember-wpix-fm-broadcasts-1979-a.html

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 23:30 (one year ago)

Also related: https://stealingalltransmissions.wordpress.com/tag/wpix-fm/

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 00:34 (one year ago)

To further derail my own thread:
https://www.nytimes.com/1986/08/22/style/night-life-the-latest-clubs.html

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 00:39 (one year ago)

Wow, a ton of great new wave type acts played at the Malibu in Lido Beach, probably a number of UK acts on their first US tour. The Bow Wow Wow show that article mentions was their second ever US engagement, following two nights at The Ritz. The club's website - now they're known as Malibu Shore Club - claims Frank Sinatra and The Who have also performed there.

Josefa, Thursday, 22 May 2025 00:44 (one year ago)

When I go on setlist.fm and look up clubs like the Malibu, or Hurrah in Manhattan, and see their old bills it almost makes me angry that I missed out on having a club like that to frequent.

Josefa, Thursday, 22 May 2025 00:48 (one year ago)

OTM

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 00:52 (one year ago)

https://stealingalltransmissions.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/wpix-general-playlist-aug-10-79.jpg

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 00:53 (one year ago)

The reason I came across that it is because of Ralph M. Newman, who seems to have managed the music at The Left Bank in Mount Vernon, who was also a WPIX-FM DJ, which is how I knew of him.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 00:56 (one year ago)

He was the host of the Old Rock & Roll Show.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 00:59 (one year ago)

The theme/aircheck of which just came back to me in a very strong auditory memory.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 01:00 (one year ago)

Life would be a dream
If you would listen to the Ralph Newman Show
With his good buddy big Alfredo
Life would be a dream
102
WPIX
102
WPIX
102
W-P-I-X
F-M

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 01:01 (one year ago)

Sung to the tune of “Sh-Boom,” by The Chords themselves. Sounded great. Not sure how many original members though.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 01:04 (one year ago)

Interesting that The Suburban Lawns get mentioned.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 01:14 (one year ago)

But not The Suburbs.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 01:14 (one year ago)

Sorry no the, just Suburban Lawns.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 10:17 (one year ago)

Trying to remember what year it was when I visited NYC and saw flyers w/ photo of UK ska band The Specials upcoming NYC gig (s) that said “Specials for $10, don’t go”

curmudgeon, Thursday, 22 May 2025 14:03 (one year ago)

Apparently The Specials came to NYC three times. Once in March 1980 when they played at the Hotel Diplomat (W. 43rd St.) and also a place called Speaks on Long Island. Then on April 19, 1980 they appeared on Saturday Night Live. Finally, in August 1981 they came back to play at the Paramount Theatre on Staten Island and at the aforementioned Malibu Night Club on Lido Beach.

Josefa, Thursday, 22 May 2025 14:35 (one year ago)

Speaks! Now there’s a name from the wayback machine

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 16:01 (one year ago)

My Father's Place maybe? isn't that in NJ?

sleeve, Thursday, 22 May 2025 16:03 (one year ago)

My Father's Place is in Roslyn, NY

That Specials flyer I remember must have been for the March 1980 Hotel Diplomat gig.

I think WPIX gave up on its new wave/punk format around March 1980

curmudgeon, Thursday, 22 May 2025 16:45 (one year ago)

Searching for Hurrah led me down a rabbit hole of ad cuttings and black and white pix of of New Order (first US tour before they hired Gillian)/Gang Of Four/Go-Go’s

I am the stranger, killing the Boer (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 22 May 2025 16:52 (one year ago)

I think WPIX gave up on its new wave/punk format around March 1980

There was definitely a New York area radio station that kept playing "modern rock" well into the 80s — I remember hearing R.E.M. and other bands that definitely hadn't broken nationwide yet.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 22 May 2025 17:15 (one year ago)

WLIR.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:03 (one year ago)

Or WNEW-FM even.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:04 (one year ago)

The WPIX-FM story is a good part of this well-written book about the Clash's popularity in the USA: https://pmpress.org/index.php?l=product_detail&p=681

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:05 (one year ago)

I got the WPIX setlist from the related website.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:05 (one year ago)

https://stealingalltransmissions.wordpress.com/2013/05/12/potpourri-for-punks-and-mothers-pix-stagger-lee-etc/

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:07 (one year ago)

Supposedly a guy name Will Keller was or is writing a book about WPIX-FM.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:08 (one year ago)

Anyway when WPIX changed formats (again) WLIR and WNEW kind of seemed to pick up some of the slack. Maybe they had already been moving in that direction. There was also WNYU of course, but that went show to show.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:11 (one year ago)

Maybe even before WPIX there was a WNYU punk show in the middle of the night hosted by Nolan Void iirc.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:11 (one year ago)

Hmm. Seems like there is another person calling themself Nolan Void these days.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:13 (one year ago)

But yeah, The New Afternoon Show on WNYU:
http://brooklynbugle.com/2014/09/17/the-thomas-edison-of-college-rock/

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:16 (one year ago)

Which show still exists.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:18 (one year ago)

https://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/133260

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:19 (one year ago)

https://freq-amp.com/2021/02/23/indie-and-the-606-massive-by-dick-alexander/

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:24 (one year ago)

There's a doc abour WLIR-FM!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r0tLe0M2-Q

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:30 (one year ago)

Guess they changed formats in 1982.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:30 (one year ago)

Here's some guy talking about the station:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJEx2Djzd5I

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:32 (one year ago)

Larry "The Duck" Dunn is or was still on satellite radio.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:39 (one year ago)

Now remembering Donna Donna introducing The Replacements at The Beacon.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:40 (one year ago)

Not sure how interesting this will be but here is an interview with the director of the WLIR movie along with some of the jocks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrpWpixonNU

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 18:47 (one year ago)

My Father’s Place and their willingness to feature local bands doing original material such as The Good Rats is mentioned in the article in the original post.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 19:43 (one year ago)

Seems like the owner of My Fathers’s Place was the DJ on the WLIR show Punky Reggae Party.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 19:43 (one year ago)

One LI venue yet to be mentioned is the Calderone Concert Hall.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 19:44 (one year ago)

Yet another bat signal to summon TSF to thread.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 19:44 (one year ago)

WLIR changed to the New Wave format exactly one year before James Jamerson died. In other words, August 2, 1982.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 19:58 (one year ago)

A year and a day after MTV started

Josefa, Thursday, 22 May 2025 20:04 (one year ago)

Interesting. Because the documentary is claiming they paved the way for MTV.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 20:19 (one year ago)

tbh I remember MTV being kind of hard to see and certainly not ubiquitous those first few years

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 20:22 (one year ago)

Doc is pretty good so far. Just saw a poster for U2 playing at the Malibu Night Club.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 20:27 (one year ago)

Maybe they officially changed format in 1982 but something had started before that, in order for the dates to line up.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 20:30 (one year ago)

The U2 show at Malibu Night Club was December 13, 1981.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 20:31 (one year ago)

And I do vaguely remember a transition period.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 20:32 (one year ago)

Famously, the original MTV VJs couldn't watch MTV in the building where the MTV studios were, because the local cable company didn't carry it (at first)

Josefa, Thursday, 22 May 2025 20:44 (one year ago)

Oh, this is interesting Speaks in Island Park, L.I. used to be the Action House that presented a lot of rock shows in the 1966-1970 period, including Vanilla Fudge, the Yardbirds, the Stooges...

Josefa, Thursday, 22 May 2025 20:52 (one year ago)

WLIR was already playing New Wave stuff in 1980.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 20:57 (one year ago)

https://rateyourmusic.com/list/FoxHound_/92_7-wlir-screamer-of-the-week/

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 20:57 (one year ago)

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0A5R36EQEDmMc9M0nM2phq

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 20:59 (one year ago)

So I gather that the Long Island scene was concentrated in sort of a corridor from Roslyn up north down to Hempstead and then down to the Island Park/Long Beach area.

Josefa, Thursday, 22 May 2025 21:03 (one year ago)

Maybe. Hopefully TSF will heed the call and give us more detail.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 21:10 (one year ago)

Should have said “heed the call up” maybe

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 May 2025 21:11 (one year ago)

This record store has a WLIR section.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 May 2025 00:00 (one year ago)

TIL that that one club’s name was spelled SPIZE.
https://archive.org/details/REM_1983-04-26

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 May 2025 00:20 (one year ago)

This record store has a WLIR section.

https://archive.northforker.com/2021/04/hidden-north-fork-the-record-store-thats-only-open-on-sundays/

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 May 2025 00:20 (one year ago)

https://www.nytimes.com/1986/04/13/nyregion/the-new-bar-scene-soft-drinks-and-fences.html

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 May 2025 00:23 (one year ago)

https://www.nytimes.com/1984/12/02/nyregion/battling-for-a-prize-radio-station-license.html

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 May 2025 00:40 (one year ago)

The same bullshit happened in Florida at the same time where I was a teenager getting within spitting distance of drinking age when they suddenly raised the drinking age to 21

Josefa, Friday, 23 May 2025 00:40 (one year ago)

https://www.nytimes.com/1985/11/10/nyregion/a-tugofwar-over-fm-radio-station.html

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 May 2025 00:41 (one year ago)

Doc runs out of steam for a bit but still worth watching

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 May 2025 01:26 (one year ago)

My band played a bar in Brooklyn in 91. I can’t remember where it was and I don’t want to remember

calstars, Friday, 23 May 2025 01:31 (one year ago)

Lauterbach's was the CBGBs of Brooklyn back in the late '80s into the '90s. Located on Prospect Avenue in Park Slope. Before my time, so don't ask me to elaborate.

Josefa, Friday, 23 May 2025 02:11 (one year ago)

Lauterbach's documentary in the works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnXfGnahBHc

https://brooklynbeatfilm.com/

bulb after bulb, Friday, 23 May 2025 02:41 (one year ago)

Was always a bit underwhelmed by that scene tbh.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 May 2025 12:29 (one year ago)

Also, before it was trendy it was kind of a dangerous place. Some people called it The Bucket of Blood iirc.

Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 May 2025 12:30 (one year ago)

nine months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKHhZdifleo

Galactic Poetaster (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 March 2026 20:19 (two months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVHFHyxhJfc

Galactic Poetaster (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 March 2026 20:21 (two months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g3JwjkAbA0

Galactic Poetaster (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 March 2026 20:22 (two months ago)

King Ad Rock kicks this one off:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFJcFFWnxHs

Galactic Poetaster (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 March 2026 20:25 (two months ago)


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