R. Kelly - "Ignition" - C or D

For god's sake Shut the fuck up and go buy "call me"

I really like it. Best ad for alcoholism since the early works of Richard "R." Burton.

now i'm having mischievous fun imagining cross-fading this track with Dizzee goin '15? she's under age that's raw!'

I'm not subscribed on line but someone who is might want to link to the article.

i really don't mind 'Ignition' much now i have to be honest

here is the text.

Flying Above the Shadows
By NEIL STRAUSS

From the vantage point of the pop charts, this seems to be R. Kelly's moment. His most recent CD, "Chocolate Factory," entered the Billboard charts at No. 1 and went on to sell two million copies. He has three singles dominating R&B radio. He produced, wrote and arranged a comeback album for the Isley Brothers, "Body Kiss," which also hit No. 1 on the charts, and the latest CD he masterminded, "Ice Cream" by the female duo JS, just entered the Billboard Top 40.

Then Mr. Kelly walked away from this summer's BET Awards with a trophy for best male R&B artist of 2003. And he announced this month that he would crown these successes with an immodestly titled greatest-hits album, "The `R' in R&B Collection, Volume 1," due Sept. 9.

That's impressive for a musician facing trial on charges that could bring 15 years in prison. As most fans know, in the past year Mr. Kelly was arrested twice, in Illinois and Florida, and charged with possessing and producing child pornography. He has pleaded not guilty. The police in Chicago say they have videos and photos showing him having sex with minors, and a video the police have cited is circulating on the Internet. Using Mr. Kelly's first name, his spokesman Allan Mayer said, "As Robert has said all along, he doesn't believe any of the charges are warranted, and he has complete faith that when all the facts come out, people will see that he's no criminal."

Of all the accusations of misconduct or crimes that fans may be willing to overlook, charges of sex with minors are generally not among them. Such charges set back the careers of two of rock's greatest innovators, Chuck Berry and Jerry Lee Lewis. And more recently, eight years after a lawsuit by parents of a child who was allegedly molested were settled out of court, Michael Jackson is still doing damage control. Such allegations, on a smaller scale, are nothing new to Mr. Kelly: he married the singer Aaliyah when she was 15. (The marriage was annulled soon after.)

Many celebrities live in a world of high promiscuity, and their managers live in fear of accusations — real or spurious — that can derail a career overnight. But even with a trial set for fall, the commercial power of R. Kelly is as strong as ever. Even without the accusations, his relative longevity is impressive in the fast-changing world of modern R&B. He is scheduled to headline at Madison Square Garden on Aug. 23.

So how has Mr. Kelly pulled this off? He has done it, more or less, by seeming to ignore his legal problems and releasing hit after hit, each one focusing on his promiscuity. His last three smashes — "Ignition," "Snake" and "Thoia Thoing," a new track from his forthcoming greatest-hits album — all follow the same plot line. Mr. Kelly is at a concert or a club, he is drinking, he sees a girl dancing rather sexily, he likes what he sees, he seduces her, and then he takes her to one or all of the following locations: the after-party, the hotel lobby and his room.

In these songs what happens next, as in the videos that his prosecutors possess, is not left to the imagination. Mr. Kelly writes sexual metaphors so transparent that one would be hard pressed to call them innuendo.

Listening to Mr. Kelly's recent hits (or watching the well-greased women dancing around him in the videos) is an experience of cognitive dissonance. On one hand it seems odd that a man facing child pornography charges should still be singing about sexuality to teenage pop fans. On the other hand the songs — all written and produced by Mr. Kelly — are undeniably good. The beats are sweet and slick, the melodic rhymes stick in the listener's head like chewing gum, and the production sets the standard to beat for R&B singles.

These are songs that should be on the radio, and Mr. Kelly has found a solution to bad press that even the most expensive publicity agent on earth can't give a client: to excel at the craft that made one a celebrity in the first place. What is interesting about Mr. Kelly, who wrote the telling song "Age Ain't Nothin' But a Number" for Aaliyah, is the way in which he has chosen to ignore his troubles in his work. Shortly after he was charged in Miami, he was promoting his video for "Soldier's Heart," a tribute to United States servicemen in Afghanistan and Iraq (with proceeds benefiting their families). In the video Mr. Kelly sings in, on and around a giant American flag. Around the same time he rereleased the children's book about him, "I Can Fly: The R. Kelly Story."

On his most recent No. 1 CD, "Chocolate Factory," he still refers to himself as "the Pied Piper" without any apparent irony. And he has continued to produce and write licentious songs for young female singers. (One needs an annotated guide to get through some of the ridiculous sexual metaphors in "Ice Cream.") The songs in which Mr. Kelly actually reacts to or addresses his troubles, like "Heaven, I Need a Hug" and most of the tracks from his scrapped "Love Land" CD, are his least effective: musically, commercially and as character defense.

When Mr. Kelly was first arrested, Terry Hillard, the Chicago police superintendent, told reporters that it was "unfortunate to see Mr. Kelly's talents go to waste." But his recent success has shown that the fruits of one's talents are not necessarily linked to one's personal life. In a society that expects its celebrities to be role models, it is sometimes difficult to accept that a flawed person can still be a great artist.

the eternal paradox - how celebrities are presented as being so desirable and having such desirable lives, but the majority of them find it an immensely destabilising experience psychologically. you can't help but feel that the more millions R Kelly rakes in, the more damage is sustained by him (possibly guilt for having what appear to be curious problems that could range from sex addiction to substance abuse) and perhaps, the emptier he feels. when you give the impression you're in love with yourself THAT much, can you love anyone else the same? Kelly's songs refer to 'you' a hell of a lot, but somehow it really seems more about him.

That rotating shot of R. Kelly's head in the video is fucked up.

i wonder how 'Ignition (Remix)' will hold up 5 years from now...I just mean in that I wonder if it will get the same love once the novelty has died down that the odious R Kelly somehow made a record that EVERYONE seems to like...except me and Dan Perry (i've kinda luke-warmed to it a bit tho, as I have with Evanescence)
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, August 14, 2003 12:52 PM (5 years ago)

gimme that toot toot

yep, still great

lol, evanescence.

I still don't like it.

lol u old

http://www.gillandrobinson.co.uk/Photos/Children%20playing.jpg

be honest, how much does this picture anger you?

http://socialmediaworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/loldogs-cute-puppy-pictures-gitoffm.jpg

CHALLOPS:

"Ignition" > "Ignition (remix)"

^^^ I've been saying this for 7 years, challops or not...in fact I started this thread about the original, not the remix.

er i guess more like 6 years, but still.

Ok, then I'm with ya bub.

watched a live DVD last night - still perfect

Amazing time capsule, this. The idea that the song could be anything but a canonized and beloved instant classic is just amazing.

amazing, amazing

100 Reasons Why "Ignition - Remix" Is So Damned Great

^^^redeems any and all egyptian lover-related sins

"Ignition" is slightly above average. "Ignition Remix" is an all-time classic.

i don't think i've ever heard the original

remix is ultra-classic!!

there are so many superior r kelly songs. ignition is ok, ignition rmx is still boring

i went to china this summer and took this picture but never posted it here because i'd never had enough of a reason. until now. you eat here:

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd118/embarchie/IMG_0200.jpg

ignition remix is all-time forever

the times that lex and I butt heads and disagree make me sad because, when we do agree, we really EMPHATICALLY agree

haha rongrestaurant.jpg made me squeal like a little girl

oy this is one of those things where i cant even be mad at people who dont like this joint because like, i just feel bad for you son, you are missing out on such a jam & its so much fun

see the pics above. and lol, i just posted about this in that other thread

by the way jaymc, just read that whole thread, and wow, it's incredible. some really insightful stuff

Alright. This song clicked today after a few years of trying. Very nice...

C
remix C+

I just put it on a mixtape for this guy and I put it right between Sinead O'Connor and Seefeel.

the remix, obv

bums me out that I started this thread when the original was out and now the thread is retroactively all about the remix

man children, they all grow up don't they

it's nice to see that my obstinacy can sustain itself over 7.5 years

bums me out that I started this thread when the original was out and now the thread is retroactively all about the remix

I ripped the two as wavs, stuck them together and made one mp3. Spurn the Ignition dicohotomy: embrace the whole.

imo

http://www.etsy.com/listing/110633535/hot-and-fresh-out-the-kitchen-r-kelly

fukkin etsy

I'm glad I got shunned by so many of you, then moved on, got therapy for being a survivor and had a wildly productive career. I still want so many of you to fucking burn in hell, tho.

Dud

Holy shit. That is a serious gap between posts.

Did u move on, tho?

milo - 100 Reasons Why "Ignition - Remix" Is So Damned Great

hey robert I saw you read poetry a few years back and thought you were very good fyi.

Had no idea there was a WWE Champion posting in here at some point.