This is Screengazer.

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I describe in my current essay Sound Dust hearing a member of a French laptop group called Shinsei talking about how he's more influenced by My Bloody Valentine than electronica. And Bingo! -- it all falls into place. Laptops are the new guitars, glitchtronica is the new indie art rock. Okay, fine, that's all been discussed on another thread.

But suddenly I realise that a genre term is there for the taking. It's on its hind legs yapping at me, begging to be used. 'Screengazer'. MBV were 'Shoegazers', these laptop people influenced by them are 'Screengazers'. The guitar is worn lower than the laptop, so you gaze shoewards. The laptop has an interface that casts light on your face when you gaze at it, so it's a bit more dramatic. But in both cases, it's the music that matters, and the concentration and listening that are emphasised by your 'gaze'. It's the idea that you're entranced by the possibilities of sound, and forget about the audience, your own body, your responsibilities as a performer to 'entertain'.

I googled 'Screengazer' and was rather surprised to find that nobody has used the term. Nobody has put these two scenes together in that one handy word. So today I want to use ILM to declare this the term for all indie glitchtop forthwith, and declare myself its baptiser and godfather! Hurrah! By perhaps no co-incidence whatsoever, I am also cited in Simon Reynolds' discussion of the nascent genre as the aphorist who said 'In the future everyone will be famous for fifteen people', which is another relevant point about the Screengazers.

There are distinctions to be made. The Shoegazers lived in a specific place: Camden, London. They all drank in the same pub (supposedly). The Screengazers, a mere ten years later, are post-geography, and post-nation state. They live in San Francisco, Tokyo, Paris, Berlin, Reykjavik, Rome, wherever. Their community is where we are right now, in the liminal interzone of the net. (Expand distinctions / similarities.)

I'm a little nervous about my new genre term, because it's satirical. Nobody is going to say 'I'm Jim, I have a laptop project called O.bso/lite, and I'm a Screengazer'. Just as Shoegazer (who coined that term, wasn't it some Melody Maker journalist?) was a slightly mocking and hostile term which hastened the end of the delivery style of Slowdive and early Ride, so Screengazer is the kind of mocking, prodding term that will have laptopists stage-diving before long -- ie that will shame them into renunciation of the very features that make them important and distinctive, ie their deep, valuable concentration on sound, their avoidance of hoary old rock gestures and the physical staples of entertainment ('put your hands together, yeah!').

Googlism on Shoegazer: 'shoegazer is / was an insult over here'.

So it's with reluctance that I unleash, in this thread, the viral meme 'Screengazer' on a previously unsuspecting world. I suspect that, launched today from ILM, it will have a deadly effectiveness, erasing and effacing other genre terms and becoming perhaps the standard label for the genre, at least for people cynical of the genre's practises, and that its way of defining a bunch of disparate activities will actually hasten the change and dissolution of those practises. Changes I don't particularly want to see, although I personally mix dancing and singing with my Sound Dust, and would never think of gazing at my iBook's screen a second longer than it took to trigger the next mp3.

I know that, if I hit 'Submit' now, when I run Google and Googlism searches one month hence, and one year hence, I will find many references to 'Screengazer'. They will mostly be more hostile and dismissive than references to 'Laptop' and 'Glitch' (Googlism on Glitch: 'glitch is definable as a rhythmic offshoot of musique concrete').

Googlism on 'Screengazer', December 20th 2002: 'Sorry, Google doesn't know enough about screengazer yet.' Fine, why don't I just leave it like that?

So do I hit 'Submit' and get that gratifying 'Success!' screen, or do I leave the genre to keep growing in its current diverse, organic, shambolic and slow way, protected, like a flower by thorns, by the current mishmash of terms: 'Laptop', 'Glitch', 'Sound Mangling', 'DSPism', 'Mad MAX'...?

Momus (Momus), Friday, 20 December 2002 11:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Tom, delete this thread please.

Momus (Momus), Friday, 20 December 2002 11:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Too late. At least one person's seen it.

meirion john lewis (mei), Friday, 20 December 2002 11:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Have you taken a side-job in branding? (I once saw a Beta Band album advertised as being "folktronic")

geeta (geeta), Friday, 20 December 2002 11:49 (twenty-three years ago)

I am actually from five years into the future. I have permission to travel back to the past on condition that I change only one thing in history: the definition of musical genres. I lay claim to their invention so that they can be discredited. I am, you see, an enemy of genre. Either there should be no genre, or there should be as many genres as there are artists, records, songs, subsections of songs... The best way to discredit genres is to associate them with... Momus.

Momus (Momus), Friday, 20 December 2002 11:54 (twenty-three years ago)

so you are a genre slave.

joan vich (joan vich), Friday, 20 December 2002 13:49 (twenty-three years ago)

It wont catch on because the kind of publications that like neat new genre names no longer like neat new music.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 20 December 2002 13:51 (twenty-three years ago)

So they're spending all their time thinking up new terms for old music?

Momus (Momus), Friday, 20 December 2002 14:23 (twenty-three years ago)

'The best way to discredit genres is to associate them with... Momus.'

so you are a genre slave.

No, a genre scapegoat.

Momus (Momus), Friday, 20 December 2002 14:30 (twenty-three years ago)

I am, you see, an enemy of genre. Either there should be no genre, or there should be as many genres as there are artists, records, songs, subsections of songs...

So, Momus, how do YOU organize your CDs?? :-)

phil jones (interstar), Friday, 20 December 2002 15:40 (twenty-three years ago)

I organise them by keeping them in cardboard boxes in a Manhattan MiniStorage unit in New York while living in Paris.

Momus (Momus), Friday, 20 December 2002 15:52 (twenty-three years ago)

I think this thread title is a great name for a website/Blog.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 20 December 2002 15:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Momus, could you travel two years into the past and fix the 2000 Presidential election?

hstencil, Friday, 20 December 2002 16:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually, I broke the terms of my time travel agreement by making Al Gore win that election by a small but decisive margin. But the Supreme Court, with neither rhyme nor reason, and motivated by pure political spite, overruled both my intervention and the will of the American people.

So Bush came to power, hailing the adoring masses with "Fellow Americans, our long national nightmare of peace and prosperity is finally over." There was little to live for after that except... Screengazer.

Momus (Momus), Friday, 20 December 2002 16:48 (twenty-three years ago)

I've always preferred to say 'shoegaze' over 'shoegazer'; 'shoegazer' is like calling a rock band a 'rocker' band -- 'I'm into rocker,' etc. So if screengazer catches on, I'll probably remove the second 'r' again.

Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 20 December 2002 17:01 (twenty-three years ago)

shoegazer is still one of the worst genre names ever

g (graysonlane), Friday, 20 December 2002 17:19 (twenty-three years ago)


search =

pita - song #3 off get out
rafael toral - "wave field 6" off of wave field (nicknamed "lovemore" by the artist)
fennesz - "instrument 3" off the instrument ep

gygax!, Friday, 20 December 2002 18:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Shoegaze[r] is better then effectspedalgazer.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 20 December 2002 18:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, I was going to correct myself on that. I suggested in my intro that they were gazing at their guitars, but of course it was indeed their impressive array of guitar effects pedals.

Momus (Momus), Friday, 20 December 2002 19:12 (twenty-three years ago)

looking back at my search recs, most of those songs are 5-8 year old...

gygax!, Friday, 20 December 2002 19:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Is nobody going to tell me who invented the term 'shoegazer', then? I thought you all knew stuff like that.

Momus (Momus), Friday, 20 December 2002 19:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Was it the guy who ran Food? Was he describing Blur?

Too much AR Kane has rotted my brane.

Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 20 December 2002 19:24 (twenty-three years ago)

BR Ane haha

Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 20 December 2002 19:24 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm still proud of Ja Rule & co. as "Thugmuffin".

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 20 December 2002 19:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Fripp-hop is still the Best... Genre... Name... Ever...

Chris Barrus (xibalba), Saturday, 21 December 2002 02:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Is nobody going to tell me who invented the term 'shoegazer', then? I thought you all knew stuff like that

Nick, it was Andy Ross - but he was not describing Blur. He was describing every band who went to Syndrome in Oxford Street and really meant Lush/Blur/Ride/Suede/Chapterhouse et al. NME called it the scene that celebrated itself (which might be relevant for your attempts to draw parallels; most laptoppers have blogs with which to celebrate self and other scene friends) whilst MM journalist S Sutherland (boo! hiss! wanker!) heard what Andy said and having never come up with a single idea of his own, of course appropriated it IMMEDIATELY.

suzy (suzy), Saturday, 21 December 2002 04:38 (twenty-three years ago)

The Americans didn't like either 'shoegazer' or 'the scene that celebrates itself', and rechristened it 'dreampop', according to All Music Guide. So maybe they'll call 'screengazer' 'screenpop'.

Momus (Momus), Saturday, 21 December 2002 17:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Philip Sherburne claims to have invented the term Click Hop, which David Byrne then used for his compilation of the sticky, clicky stuff.

Momus (Momus), Saturday, 21 December 2002 17:39 (twenty-three years ago)

maybe you should just call it dadtronica.

cause the idea is sooooo old.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Monday, 23 December 2002 02:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Im still proud of Disco-Hop

Chupa-Cabras (vicc13), Monday, 23 December 2002 03:04 (twenty-three years ago)

My vote goes to Screencore, fwiw.

Charlie (Charlie), Monday, 23 December 2002 06:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Screentronica?

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Monday, 23 December 2002 20:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Dear Momus,
it looks loke some crazy Russian kids have beaten you to this term by almost 2 weeks (see the last sentence in the third to the last paragraph).

http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?journal=jinxli&itemid=119019&thread=623595#t623595


Somnabulist Cesario, Tuesday, 24 December 2002 12:15 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought the David Byrne comp was "The only Blip-Hop Album you'll blah blah blah" - genre-term taken from the Blip-Hop comp. series.

"Dream-pop" as I understand it was coined - or at least discussed - by A.R. Kane in a late eighties interview with SR.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 24 December 2002 13:34 (twenty-three years ago)

That's amazing about that Russian bboard! Trumped by two weeks! Well, at least the guilt attached to this particular puddle of memespawn is someone else's.

I like 'screencore'.

And yeah, you're right about Blip Hop. That's what Byrne called his comp.

I'm sitting here with Suzy Artskool and Kate Masonic. They tell me guitar rock is the new thing. Happy Xmas!

Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 24 December 2002 23:24 (twenty-three years ago)


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