X-mas Gift Sibling Dilemna.

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My older sister (a mother of two at age 38, in the throes of a rather acrimonious divorce) tells me when asked what she wants for Christmas:

"Me? Xmas? I don't know... I am always game for new music - and you know I have horrible taste... so educate me!"

Once upon a time, my sister -- three years my senior -- had remarkable taste in music (or at least I thought so). In the late 70's/very early 80's, while I was still busying my ears exclusively with Kiss, Queen and Boston, she brought home stuff like MOTHERSHIP CONNECTION and BRIDES OF DR.FUNKENSTEIN by Parliament, PARALLEL LINES by Blondie, the first B-52's album, NEW CLEAR DAYS by the Vapors, ZENYATTA MONDATTA by the Police and the first album by ridiculous funkateers, Brass Construction. She was everything you could want in a seemingly hip elder sibling, forcibly expanding my horizons and doing me a world of good (despite my protests at the time). While I still love Kiss, my sister introduced a seemingly whole new world of music to me.

Then, somewhat inexplicably, she turned a corner. Sometime in the mid-80's, my sister must've underwent a severe taste-ectomy. While I was steeping myself further into Punk Rock and its adjoining offshoots, my sister suddenly started listening to stuff like Basia, Sade, Anita Baker, Simply Red and Swing Out Sister! I was stupified! How could this woman who heretofore had such remarkably open-minded, eclectic tastes suddenly embrace music that I found soulless and utterly reprehensible?!?! It made no sense.

Years later, I've resigned myself to the notion that she'll never be quite as hip as she once appeared. But now -- when she asks me for "new music," what should I get her? I can't really stray too far from the middle of the road now, or she'll scramble for the remote. As yawnsome and staid a list as it may seem, here's what I've picked out for her for this X-mas. Comments/critiscisms/recommendations/substitutions are welcome and encouraged:

(1) PARACHUTES by Coldplay
(2) SIMPLE THINGS by Zero 7
(3) FELT MOUNTAIN by Goldfrapp
(4) THE MAGNIFICENT TREE by Hooverphonic
(5) the *new* GREATEST HIT by Blondie (for old time's sake)
(6) IS THIS IT? by the Strokes (probably as hard as she can bear).

Have at it and thanks in advance.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 December 2002 16:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Alex, Does she still have all her old music - if not buy Funkadelic and Parliament - remind her of what she's missing. If not what about "justified" by mr timberlake - could at least be interesting

james (james), Friday, 20 December 2002 17:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Dilemna?

Your sis has obviously matured. She has grown to like a more mild music and that should not be looked upon as a negative. All those "soulless" artists that you mentioned sure have a hell of a lot more musical talent (excepting the awesome Blondie) than those recommended.
A great example of what is good about artist maturation is Sting's career. The moment I first heard his songs with the Police, I jettisoned any need to listen to the misogynistic "cock rock" that I had formerly devoted my listening time to. And as Sting has matured, his work has become much more sophisticated. So much that I had to play catchup to his work, because his few solo albums seemed to be beyond me in depth and concept. I was still stuck in what I was used to hearing in the early eighties. But as I matured, my tastes became more widespread and open minded. This has obviously happened with your sister. But have no fear, such a thing doesn't always have to happen to everybody. So you can rock on without worry of evolution if you choose.

bahtology, Friday, 20 December 2002 17:59 (twenty-three years ago)

I'll take Anita Baker over the Killing Joke I've heard. Disavowing a punk aesthetic, or any other aesthetic which fetishizes hardness, is not a step backward in my view.

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 20 December 2002 18:13 (twenty-three years ago)

alex this list totally dishonours the fire!!

geeta (geeta), Friday, 20 December 2002 18:15 (twenty-three years ago)

And as Sting has matured, his work has become much more sophisticated.

er, if that's what being 'sophisticated' entails, i want none of it

geeta (geeta), Friday, 20 December 2002 18:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Get her Teena Marie's new greatest hits.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 20 December 2002 18:27 (twenty-three years ago)

get her b2k's 'pandemonium'!

geeta (geeta), Friday, 20 December 2002 18:35 (twenty-three years ago)

I think she be more likely to connect with a piece of music (and by extension, 'hep' music in general) if she sees it referenced on the TV or the newspaper or other friends. You know, give her the thrill of being part of something larger than herself. So I think something hyped-to-the-skies like the Strokes might be perfect and Zero 7, Goldfrapp, or Hooverphonic not-quite-so-perfect.

She seems to be a real fan of lots of groove-oriented works, so I can't imagine her responding to Coldplay. Anything from the Basement Jaxx or Moby to, gawd, the Dave Matthews Band would be more suitable.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 20 December 2002 18:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Or even the new Bjork greatest hits thing -- and I CANNOT STAND Bjork.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 20 December 2002 18:56 (twenty-three years ago)

If she likes those soothing sounds, does she have Stan Getz/Joao Gilberto's "Getz/Gilberto"? This is the one with vocals by Astrud Gilberto. It's a classic and very nice.

Sean (Sean), Friday, 20 December 2002 19:06 (twenty-three years ago)

Maybe some jazz?

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 20 December 2002 19:30 (twenty-three years ago)

"And as Sting has matured, his work has become much more sophisticated."

His work has become as indefensibly dull as dishwater, each album eclipsing its predecessor in its avoidance of adventurousness.

Snarky comments about my appreciation for the almighty majesty of Killing Joke are being summarily ignored, as this query isn't about me...you heartless, fire-dishonoring jackyls. I'm fully aware of how, once again, middle-of-the-road the list of discs I cited was, hence my need for suggestions from you lot. Don't waste your time giving me jibes about how Coldplay doesn't honor the fire (as, quite assuredly, they do not). I'm aware of it.

"Disavowing a punk aesthetic, or any other aesthetic which fetishizes hardness, is not a step backward in my view."

Of course it isn't, but there's a difference betwen evoling (i.e. broadening one's tastes and horizons, maturing to the level of appreciating styles of music that do not, as you say, 'fetishize hardness') and merely settling for bland 'comfort food' music (Anita Baker et al.)

"Maybe some jazz?"

Good call, Sundar, although my knowledge of jazz is pretty limited. I have thrown in a copy of TIME OUT by the Dave Brubeck Quartet, which is admittedly the most tired cliche of a jazz album ever, but what do you want from me?

Good call on the Stan Getz/Joao Gilberto suggestion, Sean!!!!

Regarding Justin Timberlake, I'm relatively certain her pop-loving nine year old son has already brought that into the equation.

Anyway, keep the suggestions coming. Thanks and merry x-mas!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 December 2002 19:55 (twenty-three years ago)

bahtology : this is irony right?

As to older sis Alex : this is what a friend of mine used to call a visit from the taste reposession officer ...

If she wants soulful, can't she be persuaded by some kind of R'n'B? Say Jill Scott, Kelis, even the new Common album?


phil jones (interstar), Friday, 20 December 2002 20:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Obviously, I shouldn't have brought up Sting. Sorry, bad example. I forgot that not many of you like to listen to music played with a high degree of precision and professionalism.
Lacking adventure? I have yet to hear any other successful pop musician to incorporate such a wide ranging and disparate amount of styles into his own unique sound. His penchant for using odd time signatures is proof enough alone that his work isn't something to write off as pedestrian or middle of the road.
I guess that if he isn't filling up his sound with rockin' guitars and actually has the balls to act his age, then he is dull to the average music listener.

bahtology, Friday, 20 December 2002 20:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Get her one of the Rufus Wainwright records. I'd go with the first one. Or get the Flaming Lips record, it's sure to be on every year end Best Of list she encounters. If you're looking for pretty but sort of adventurous stuff. Actually, I'd go with the Delgados' Hate.
Might be harder to find, though.

Arthur (Arthur), Friday, 20 December 2002 20:57 (twenty-three years ago)

I can only deal with Rufus Wainwright when I'm drunk and feeling self-pitying. Of course, that's pretty much every night...

Sean (Sean), Friday, 20 December 2002 21:01 (twenty-three years ago)

"I forgot that not many of you like to listen to music played with a high degree of precision and professionalism."

Good grief, that's the most pompous post I think I've ever read in my life.

"I have yet to hear any other successful pop musician to incorporate such a wide ranging and disparate amount of styles into his own unique sound."

What about, oh I don't know, Peter Gabriel, Tom Waits, David Bowie, Frank Zappa, Brian Eno, David Byrne, Elvis Costello, John Lydon, Nick Cave, Lou Reed, XTC and...oh....about nineteen dozen other artists a thousand times more intersting than fuckin' solo Sting.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 December 2002 21:28 (twenty-three years ago)

The all-time fool-proof jazz album gift is Charles Mingus' Mingus Ah Um.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 20 December 2002 23:07 (twenty-three years ago)

The new Cassandra Wilson? That's classic-sounding but good. And "new".

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 20 December 2002 23:19 (twenty-three years ago)

But screw that, let's argue about Sting. (Namedrop alert) I went to school with his son, who was a wanker.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 20 December 2002 23:35 (twenty-three years ago)


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