Festive Fifty 2002

New "So there was only one track off Hate and it was the single and it only made #44 - GET OVER IT" answers here...

Got a list?

Last time I listened was '98 I think. Peel's listeners don't deserve him.

Don't think a list has gone up yet. Top five was:

1) Saloon - Girls Are The New Boys
2) Cinerama - Quick, Before It Melts
3) Miss Black America
4) Nina Nastasia - Ugly Face
5) Antihero

1 & 4, fine - 2 is alright, but not great by Cinerama's standards - 3 & 5 were just plain rubbish.

Miss Black America don't exist anymore

who/what is miss black america?

Apparently they do, though. They're off on tour with Reuben and Kinesis anyhow.

Oh, and they're an indie band from Bury St Edmunds who have vowed that they will get big without 'playing the game' as such, i.e. they're putting out all their records on their own label. They do seem like quite nice, intelligent people, but their music sounds like My Vitriol.

Top 5 = kind of rubbish and I missed 50-25 or thereabouts but 10-20 was full of loads of stuff I hadn't thought much of at the time but decided yesterday was actually great. I don't know if I was right yesterday or if it was just too much booze and tinsel or something. (Actually this quite often happens but last year's really was mostly awful, it might even have been the other way round in that stuff I thought was ok the first time around left me swearing at the radio in disgust during the F50.)

I even nearly liked that MBA track at number 3 because the dodgy intro lyrics sound like the kind of feeble angst I keep myself awake worrying about until it got more bleaty and I thought, "yeah, but all the people who think MBA [yeah, I haven't heard of any for six months either, but this must be proof some still exist] are really cool would laugh at you even harder if YOU said something like that," and I returned to cynical misanthropy for long enough to look for more vodka.

wasn't it awful? terrible. just...urgh.
so out of date, so plain and dull and flat and bland.

here's the list, pilfered from the yahoo Peel group:

The Festive 50 2002
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1 Saloon - Girls are the New Boys
2 Cinerama - Quick Before It Melts
3 Miss Black America - Talk Hard
4 Nina Nastasia - Ugly Face
5 Antihero - Rolling Stones T-shirt
6 M.A.S.S. - Hey Gravity
7 Laura Cantrell - Too Late for Tonight
8 Pinhole - So Over You
9 Marc Smith vs Safe 'n' Sound - Identify the Beat
10 Ballboy - All the Records on the Radio are Shite
11 Miss Black America - Miss Black America
12 Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Bangs
13 Cinerama - Careless
14 Half Man Half Biscuit - The Light at the End of the Tunnel
(is the Light of an Oncoming Train)
15 The White Stripes - Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground
16 Low - In The Drugs
17 Asa-Chang & Junray - Hana
18 Low - Canada
19 Coin Op - Democracies
20 Belle & Sebastian - You Don't Send Me
21 The Datsuns - In Love
22 The Fall - Susan vs Youth Club
23 Jeffrey Lewis - Chelsea Hotel Oral Sex Song
24 Ballboy - Where Do the Nights of Sleep Go To
When They Do Not Come To Me?
25 Cornershop - Staging the Plaguing of the Raised Platform
26 Saloon - Have You Seen The Light?
27 The White Stripes - Fell In Love With A Girl
28 The Cranebuilders - Your Song
29 The Delgados - Mr Bluesky
30 Bearsuit - Drinkink
31 Ladytron - Seventeen
32 Boom Bip and Dose One - Mannequin Hand Trapdoor Reminder
33 The Von Bondies - It Came From Japan
34 Wire - 99.9
35 Mclusky - Alan is a Cowboy Killer
36 Low - That's How You Sing Amazing Grace
37 Antihero - You Got Nothing
38 Half Man Half Biscuit - Breaking News
39 Cinerama - Catgirl Tights
40 Mclusky - To Hell With Good Intentions
41 Burning Love Jumpsuit - Cheerleader
42 Interpol - Obstacle 1
43 Melys - So Good
44 The Delgados - Coming in from the Cold
45 Miss Black America - Infinite Chinese Box
46 80s Matchbox B-Line Disaster - Celebrate Your Mother
47 The D4 - Get Loose
48 Múm - Green Grass of Tunnel
49 The Aphrodisiacs - This is a Campaign
50 The Dawn Parade - The Hole in my Heart

it is pretty bad, Peel himself even sounded a bit fed up at the end

wow. i am so out of touch with the youth of today

i haven't heard a single song on that list.

I think it's funny he did a Fabric Live Mix, can John Peel and Grooverider be far off?

Suxor list. Some good ones, but there are FIFTY, so getting a FEW good ones wouldn't be hard would it?

17 (download NOW!!!), 31, 49 are all good.

yep,saloon.saloon are damn fine indeed,they deserve that.sorta englischer kraut rock.their album '(this is)what we call progress' (i think that's the title).is damn excellent.and live,they're brilliant,seen 'em about 3 times i think ,and they improve every single time.if you heard them you'd probably really like 'em,and even if you didn't like 'em,you'd appreciate their musicianship.

Seventeen aint all that, it gets boring pretty fast. Green Grass of Tunnel is far bettah

17 is phenomenal Chupa, Green Grass not wet enough, nor blippy enough for Mum FAR too doe-eyed.

i think this year's festive 50 reflects how bands with dedicated fanbase/band members with lots of spare time can do really well. Last year (I think) Meanwhile Back in Communist Russia got into the top 10 partly because they asked the fans on the mailing list to vote, and Antihero and Miss Black America (especially) do have that sort of fanbase.

i think this year's festive 50 reflects how bands with dedicated fanbase/band members with lots of spare time can do really well.

for 'this year's festive 50' read 'that night at the brits'.

Are Sallon that are number one the same indie schmindie Saloon who seem to be oplaying at every Strange Fruit/Track and field/ other indie toilet in London?

Yes. That would be John Peel Listeners In 'Liking Indie' Shocker, then.

i am a boring indie and i have only heard seven of these songs, i am slipping. is this the first hefner free list in like 7 years?

3 songs from that slightly okayish low album! bloody hell.

normally i have heard most of them but this year it's a pathetic 27. Are Miss black America or Antihero worth bothering with?

Keith - it's only cos Hefner didn't put out an album this year.

ESOJ - Probably not.

I've heard 4 of them.

Fucking hell, it's all still Dave Gedge and Half Man Half Biscuit! 1986 never went away!

But where is Bogshed's 'Fat Boy Exam Failure'?

Best HMHB song title ever though...