Recommendations for best CDs to get for motown groups/girl groups?

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'Tis about time i got some Motown/Girl group CDs i think... I have a Shangri-La's compilation, but i doubt it's that exhaustive. I'd like to ask what are the best, most comprehensive CD compilations for each of the following, say...?:

The Supremes
The Shangri-La's
The Chiffons
The Shirelles
The Ronettes
The Temptations
The Four Tops
The Miracles
The Righteous Brothers ??

I'm thinking two CD compilations are likely to be better, for each? Any good recommendations for any/all of these groups, folks?
Thanks.

Tom May, Sunday, 12 January 2003 20:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Don't know how exhaustive it is, but 'The Best of the Shangri-Las The Mercury Years' on Spectrum records is pretty good. Has 25 songs on it so does cover a pretty wide range.

fractal (fractal), Sunday, 12 January 2003 20:20 (twenty-three years ago)

A really good comp is the 3 CD set of Tamla Motown Gold...it has everything from the early days to around about 1970. I think it's on Spectrum/Universal records (I leant it to my sister, so I don't have it to hand).

Individual albums:

Smokey and the Miracles: Going to a go go

Four Tops: On Top and Reach Out (they are on the same CD)

I'd also look for the Isley Brothers.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 12 January 2003 20:26 (twenty-three years ago)

oops only on Spectrum records in the UK, according to AMG is actually on Polygram

fractal (fractal), Sunday, 12 January 2003 20:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Rather than Ronettes and Righteous Brothers CDs, get the Phil Spector: Back To Mono boxed set, for all of their best, plus the Crystals, Ike & Tina and lots of other great stuff.

Almost all Shangri-Las collections are very similar indeed (I have three different comps, on record, cassette and CD, and there's little to choose). You can't have too much of the Temptations and Four Tops - the former particularly made some great individual albums. There are some great twofers out there, of which Psychedelic Shack and All Directions is particularly vital. The best Smokey/Miracles collection is probably Anthology.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 12 January 2003 20:35 (twenty-three years ago)

There was a really good set of girl group comps (I think) Rhino put out a while back. Irwin Chusid did the liner notes.

James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 12 January 2003 20:40 (twenty-three years ago)

i have "let your heart be your guide",an introduction to the temptations,which is good,but i don't know how good it is in terms of what's not on it,etc since i don't have anything else by them
there are some shangri-la's cds in virgin for about five euro (probably about two fifty english pounds),does anyone know what the story is with these?
i'm suspicious of anything that's that cheap...

robin (robin), Sunday, 12 January 2003 21:51 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd say 90% chance that they're about as good as all the other Shangri-Las comps I've heard, Robin. And at that price (more like £3.50, I think), a must have.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 12 January 2003 21:55 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah, I got the best of the Shangri-las for £3.50ish, it's a 20 track CD, on Digital Music.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 12 January 2003 22:41 (twenty-three years ago)

nice one
i must get that so

robin (robin), Sunday, 12 January 2003 22:53 (twenty-three years ago)

The Supremes

Last year Motown put out a really great anthology of the Supremes' '70s work (post-Diana Ross). That was an era when it was common practice to put out one or two albums a year -- and during the '70s, I believe the Supremes put out something like eleven albums. Thowe records are long-deleted (I've found a few at yard sales), but the anthology covers that ground pretty well.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 12 January 2003 23:08 (twenty-three years ago)

A second vote for "Back to Mono"... I have it on *vinyl*, heh heh.

Sean (Sean), Sunday, 12 January 2003 23:16 (twenty-three years ago)


The first place to go is to the Early Girls series on Ace; there are three volumes. Absolutely stone classic. I'd recommend these over the Rhino collections since Early Girls mixes well-known hits with lesser-known tracks which are hardly any less great, and they have almost 30 tracks apiece. Pretty good liner notes too.

If you really become a mentalist, I'd recommend the ongoing Where the Girls Are series on Ace; each volume is packed to gills will g.g. rarities. Also off the beaten path is Joe Meek's Girls which I love, on RPM.

The best girl group LP (as opposed to comp) is LLLLLittle Eva!. There's a super reissue on West Side with a zillion bonus tracks, most of them ace (esp. "I'm Just a Little Girl").

I agree that for the Phil Spector stuff, just get Back to Mono. If you find that's not enough, you can search vinyl reissues of the original Ronettes, etc. LPs.

The best Shangri-Las comp is I think The Best of the Shangri-Las on Mercury, but Myrmidons of Melodrama on RPM is fine too.

I'm really into the other Red Bird stuff too (that was Leiber and Stoller's label), things like the Jellybeans, Dixie Cups. There's a 4-CD box set called The Red Bird Story that's great, but also a single disc The Girl Group Sound which will suffice.


I haven't been keeping up with the recent spate of Motown reissues. Apparently all the original albums by the major artists or now on CD two-fers, and there are new double-disc and single-disc compilations that are newly remastered, etc. Check out Dusty Groove they usually have such things for very low prices.

etc. etc. etc.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 13 January 2003 03:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Kate to thredd, quickly...

Charlie (Charlie), Monday, 13 January 2003 04:28 (twenty-three years ago)

you need a cowsills best of too.

keith (keithmcl), Monday, 13 January 2003 04:59 (twenty-three years ago)

I second The Red Bird Story. It is 4 cds of fuckin' awesome. It's on Charly and was actually pretty cheap for a 4cd import. Although I jsut checked Amazon and it's apparently OOP. Shouldn't be too hard to scare up.

Absolutely get all the individual Temptations albums, don't mess with comps in their case. You really can't go wrong with any of them up until about '75, and certain ones like Psychedelic Shack and Masterpiece are essential.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 13 January 2003 06:36 (twenty-three years ago)

I suggest the 'Mowtown chartbusters' CDs. Vols 1 - 3 contain most of the best 60s stuff, altho obv you get some boys (Marvin Gaye, Four Tops, Temptations) as well as the Mowtown girls. In the UK these can be found for about five pounds each (check the chain store sales and they are probably even cheaper now) and are on Spectrum. Strangely its cheaper to buy them sperately rather than in the box set...

Robin Goad (rgoad), Monday, 13 January 2003 12:14 (twenty-three years ago)

There's an updated Robinson/Miracles Anthology (Ooh Baby Baby: The Anthology) which has been out on CD for a couple of months now; in fact I think I wrote about it on CoM back in October (and my review of it for Uncut still hasn't been published grrr!) and cited it in my end-of-year lists. But you should have as many of the individual albums/twofers that you can find - the "Make It Happen" album is a particular masterpiece. Ditto the Temps and the Tops (isn't "Still Waters" a great song?).

Personally I always reckoned the Marvelettes were far, far superior to the Supremes, and Gladys Horton as a singer whupped DRoss' ass.

There are two Hitsville 4CD box sets available - the first far better than the second, obv - and while I have all the stuff on the old Chartbusters compilations (Vol 3 was one of the first records I ever had, with the silver cover and Alan Freeman sleevenote) it's worth a punt if you've got some Xmas tokens burning a hole in yr pocket.

There doesn't seem to be a compact Spector one-CD compilation, so you'd have to go for Back To Mono. I dunno - I've had the vinyl version for about a dozen years and have hardly ever played it; there's something (or perhaps nothing) running deep through Spector that makes him very resistant to me. Apparently the CD version is considerably inferior in sound quality to the vinyl original; but as a public service, I should point out that all of Back to Mono and both the Hitsville USA boxsets are available for download at:

http://www.esss.com.br/~rodrigo

thanks to the Belgian lass for tipping me off! ;-)

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 13 January 2003 12:35 (twenty-three years ago)

sorry but the page in question seems to have disappeared, both via my link and via Stevie Nixed :-(

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 13 January 2003 12:39 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004WJHT/qid%3D1042463676/026-5498442-9558830

this is a great recent Motown comp - not least because the sound quality is far far better than on a lot of earlier Motown 60s re-issues.

andy, Monday, 13 January 2003 13:17 (twenty-three years ago)

If you're looking for something else on the cheap there's a girl group 3-Cd set I picked up in HMV a couple of weeks ago for £3.99. It's got several of the classics - Leader of the pack, Chapel of Love etc. The compilation is called 'Chapel of Love' and its on Castle Pulse. I'm sure it's not the most comprehensive one out there though.

(On the same label there are a couple of great Sun Records 3-Cd sets that you can pick up for the same price - very highly recommended though very off-thread.)

James Ball (James Ball), Monday, 13 January 2003 14:14 (twenty-three years ago)

YOU PEOPLE ARE ALL ON CRACK!!!!!!!!!!

THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE!

MARTHA AND THE FUCKING VANDELLAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND WHEN YOU ARE DONE THERE, GET SOME JUNIOR WALKER AND THE ALL STARS!

I dont know about cd's, but the vinyl motown anthologies are an absolute must. Really, Martha and the Vandellas are the most unsung motown girl group, and it is a shame because they were absolutely brilliant and essential.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Monday, 13 January 2003 20:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Mike Taylor has the right attitude. :-)

Jody Beth Rosen, not on crack (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 13 January 2003 21:01 (twenty-three years ago)

James, I did a thread about exactly that set many months ago. It has Groucho Marx's daughter on it!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 13 January 2003 21:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Melinda Marx I presume? I'll give that one another listen.

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 09:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Also keep an eye out for 'The Velvelettes' best-of, one of the lesser know girl groups but they did a few gems.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 19:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Two girl groups, not of Motown issue are Patti Labelle and the Blue Belles and The Three Degrees, both have best of Cd's out. Will agree on the Martha and The Vandellas, shame they are so often overlooked as they are great.

Brenton Bastakiatavich, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 05:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Can't disagree on Martha & the Vandellas. 'Nowhere to run', 'Heatwave' and 'Dancing in the Streets' are amongst my favourite Motown singles.

James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 09:24 (twenty-three years ago)

There's a Marvelettes record called The Return of the Marvelettes--I don't think it's ever made it to CD but it's fabulous. Some obscure Smokey Robinson songs. One classic song in "No More Tear-Stained Makeup." If you see a copy....

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 14:36 (twenty-three years ago)

BTW, I never liked "Dancing in the Street" much. If it weren't for the production, there'd be nothing; witness all the dull-as-shite rock covers of it.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 16:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Thanks for all the recommendations, my friends! I only wish I had the money to acquire them all. ;-) For the moment, I have limited myself to the Temptations' two-fer, "Psychedelic Shack/All Directions".

Tom May, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 16:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Did anyone start a top 100 Motown songs, or a top 100 Girl Group song list?

Best Motown/girl group song ever is The Elgins 'Heaven must have sent you'. If you get a Motown comp, make sure that's on it.

Ian SPACK (Ian SPACK), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 17:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Really? That song always seemed a pretty, but unremarkable, gospel-derived thing. Re. ballads, "Got to Be There" is a personal favorite.

Anyways, I'd recommend the Chartbusters series over the two Hitsville box sets. There's some dodgy stuff past volume 6 or so, but you do get R. Dean Taylor's "Gotta See Jane" and "There's a Ghost in My House" (both covered memorably by The Fall).

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 17:58 (twenty-three years ago)

I should add that the advantage of Hitsville is that the singles are sequenced in (mostly) chronological order. But I think the Chartbusters series holds more surprises, and is sequenced more for listening pleasure.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 18:03 (twenty-three years ago)

four months pass...
Mr Diamond: Yeah, 'Psychedelic Shack' (with, not forgetting 'All Directions', on the two-fer) I have obtained, and I find it fantastic stuff... this really opened the way for me to get particularly interested in Whitfield and the progression of soul into the 1970s... Rose Royce, Kool and the Gang, Earth, Wind & Fire... all magical. Circa Marcello's CoM webblog, which had inspired me to track down EW&F's "That's the Way of the World" (which is of course on the soundtrack album of that name). I like their work with Milton Nascimento on "All'n'All" as well... very brief pieces but transcendent. Fascinating that you have a utopian soul band using a latin bossa nova influence... however fleetingly.
Marcello: Yes, I acquired the Robinson/Miracles anthology recently; largely on the strength of your recommendation - a very well-written piece on it on your weblog (as compelling as the usual standard on the *great* COM :-)). I know it's an obvious one to single out, but "Ooo Baby Baby" itself just blows me away; one of the most movingly sung songs I have ever heard. That which cannot be expressed in words alone... and that most evocative chord change of Gmaj7 to Am7...
Yes, indeed; and where is the similar treatment for Smokey solo, and the Smokey-less Miracles?
BTW: Why didn't Uncut include your review of it? So did it not get a review in Uncut in any form...?

Tom May (Tom May), Friday, 23 May 2003 22:05 (twenty-three years ago)

three years pass...
I've been listening to "Be My Baby" and "Pull Shapes" (not vintage, but OMG) a lot lately, and it's like one of those movies where the homely girl takes off her glasses and lets her hair down. I've checked out a few other assorted tracks ("He Hit Me," "He's So Fine," "Leader of the Pack") -- where should I start with the girl groups tip? Should I keep on with the Ronettes? Or should I get Back to Mono? Or one of those box sets?

I also completely adore the '60s-era Supremes.

c('°c) (Leee), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 03:33 (nineteen years ago)

How has no one recommended "One Kiss Can Lead to Another"? It's not dedicated to one particular group but it's universally beloved on ILX.

The Supremes had a box set released that was quite comprehensive, however it virtually ignored their post-Diana years, which is a shame because they came out with amazing music in the late 60s/early 70s. As someone said above, there was a CD titled "70s Anthology" that covered that period more thorougly than the box set. A bit pricey, though. This 60s anthology complements it the best.

The Temptations had very solid albums once Norman Whitfield started working with them, so get a 60s comp with My Girl and Ain't Too Proud to Beg, and try to get any of their Whitfield stuff in totality. The Psychedelic Soul comp is the best though, if you're really looking for comps. Or the Emperors of Soul 5-CD set covers about everything.

The best box set for the Four Tops is "Fourever". Covers post Motown stuff as well. If you decide to buy these box sets, get them used...easily save %40 at least.

musically (musically), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 06:31 (nineteen years ago)

I wouldn't recommend that Chapel Of Love compilation that someone mentions above, lots of weak ballad filler. One Kiss Can Lead To Another is indeed essential. The best single CD is Girl Crazy - The Ultimate Girl Group Collection.

Nedpoleon (NedBeauman), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 10:21 (nineteen years ago)

for some 70s Philly Soul girl group action get a grt hts/bestof on the THREE DEGREES and THE JONES GIRLS. mighty fine.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

I recently picked up the Sandie Shaw box, Nothing Comes Easy...if you wanted to focus on an individual artist in this (admittedly broad) genre, you could do much worse...

hank (hank s), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

yeah deffo just get girl group sounds lost and found:one kiss can lead to another. best box set ever

FACEBRACE (FACEBRACE), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

seventeen years pass...

Something you ought to get:

https://i.postimg.cc/vDwBVx0p/girl.jpg

There are a few new copies left on Amazon. I paid $15 in Canada; it's $10 in the States.

A couple of cons. 1) Weird configuration. On the first CD, you get the Shirelles and Angels albums, half of the Marvelettes, and bonus songs by the Teen Queens, Bobbettes, and Chantels. The second CD is the other half of the Marvelettes, the Crystals and Orlons LPs, and bonus songs by the Paris Sisters and Chains. Why split the Marvelettes LP? Put that on one CD and all the bonus songs on the other. 2) The Angels LP, their first, isn't much--no "My Boyfriend's Back," a couple of lame supper-club covers.

All the rest is great. Lots of hits: "Tonight's the Night," "Boys," "Playboy," "Beechwood 4-5789," "Uptown," "Mashed Potato Time," "The Wah-Watusi," plus all the bonus stuff. The Crystals album has two lesser known songs that are among their best" "Please Hurt Me" and "There's No Other (Like My Baby)" (already had them on a B-sides/rarities collection). The Orlons are underappreciated--start-to-finish, their LP might be the best. There's a booklet with the original liner notes for all five albums.

The inclusion of the Marvelettes is a little surprising from a licensing standpoint.

clemenza, Friday, 29 March 2024 15:46 (two years ago)

If it's from '62-back, it's public domain in the UK, which leads to a lot of wacky, affordable comps.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 29 March 2024 15:51 (two years ago)

I've bought 14 CDs from this one particular company. Mostly blues (Lightnin' Hopkins, Gary Davis, Howlin' Wolf), some inner-circle founders (Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, Buddy Holly), plus this.

clemenza, Friday, 29 March 2024 15:57 (two years ago)

Just checked, and the Playboy album was from '62. It was their third album, so there might even be a cheapy set of those plus some other rando stuff out in the wild somewhere.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 29 March 2024 16:01 (two years ago)


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